r/technology • u/ourlifeintoronto • Sep 10 '23

Transportation Lithium discovery in US volcano could be biggest deposit ever found

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/lithium-discovery-in-us-volcano-could-be-biggest-deposit-ever-found/4018032.article
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u/Love_Lettuce_8380 Sep 11 '23

I'm fine with that it means we know how to best incentivize them into doing what we need them to do.

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u/JinFuu Sep 11 '23

I'm fine with that if we can convince some people that long term, continuous/stable flow of money is better than trying to wringe out as much as you can in the current quarter/financial year. : V

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u/Love_Lettuce_8380 Sep 11 '23

you said it way better than me I 100% agree

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '23

As soon as energy storage is a little cheaper wind and solar will rather easily beat anything but natural gas and then given a bit more time it will beat natural gas and that will be that.

EVs are even easier because that's like 100 times less moving parts to deal with so as the batteries keep improving at a pretty rapid rate the EVs blows past fossil fuel vehicles in affordability.

It's hard to say there really is any significant need to incentivize a transition when we don't quite have the energy storage to make it work. Because solar and wind is already cheaper than any fossil fuel power generation the energy storage hurdle finally being overcome will be like a flood gate of adoption being opened.

Any taxes on fossil fuels DIRECTLY makes the transition to green energy more expensive, incentive or not. Really they already have tons of incentives IF the damn energy storage was just a bit better.

It's like generally people always switch to electric when they can because electric is always more convenient if it can do the job, not unlike electric yard tools. Once you don't have to deal with gas and oil lawnmowers, that's it, you'll never go back. Most corporations feel the same way and don't care what the oil and gas companies think, they will move to electric because it save THEM money in operation cost and maintenance.

At some point solar is like your setting up a panel that can produce gasoline in your backyard and if such a thing existed there's nothing the oil and gas companies could really do to stop it and all the naysayers would shut their mouth and start getting "free gas from the sun".

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u/rigored Sep 11 '23

Buy electric everything. There’s the incentive

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u/Love_Lettuce_8380 Sep 11 '23

I want to saving up for my first EV here soon!