r/technology • u/HellYeahDamnWrite • Jan 08 '25

Social Media Zuckerberg says he’s moving Meta moderators to Texas because California seems too ‘biased’

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24338305/meta-mark-zuckerberg-moving-meta-moderators-texas-california-bias
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u/Eurynom0s Jan 08 '25

Elon's personal judge is in Texas though.

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u/Yetimang Jan 08 '25

Why would Facebook make it easier for Elon to sue them?

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u/chinadian94 Jan 09 '25

That judge is in Amarillo in a totally different federal district

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u/elmonoenano Jan 08 '25

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Someone would have to go through the Meta TOS to find out what the venue/choice of laws clause says. Meta cases might not even be in Texas depending on what it says in the TOS.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 08 '25

Because the judge is asserting he has jurisdiction over everything Musk regardless of where it happened. So maybe Zuck wants in on that.

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u/elmonoenano Jan 08 '25

That's not how jurisdiction works though. This is silly. I know you haven't ever done a law suit, but the first thing you have to do is put in what statute gives a court subject matter jurisdiction and how that court has subject matter jurisdiction over the parties. Meta's TOS specifically sets their venue and choice of law as N. District of California or in San Mateo county under state laws.

From Sec. 4.4 of META's TOS:

"You and Meta each agree that any claim, cause of action, or dispute between us that arises out of or relates to these Terms or your access or use of the Meta Products shall be resolved exclusively in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California or a state court located in San Mateo County. "

Meta can't argue what you're saying b/c they explicitly make you agree to something different.

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u/Eurynom0s Jan 08 '25

Don't explain it to me, explain it to the judge: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/texas-judge-decides-texas-is-a-perfectly-good-venue-for-x-to-sue-media-matters

If Facebook does a big move of staff to Texas, good odds that policy you posted gets amended to say Texas.

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u/elmonoenano Jan 08 '25

X is located in Texas, that gives the district courts of Texas jurisdiction. Meta isn't located in Texas. This is like first day of Civ Pro stuff. It's very basic, to the point where even the most corrupt judge can't fake it b/c if a court lacks jurisdiction, any decision they make can be turned over at any time by any court that does have jurisdiction.

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u/zerocoal Jan 09 '25

It's very basic, to the point where even the most corrupt judge can't fake it b/c if a court lacks jurisdiction, any decision they make can be turned over at any time by any court that does have jurisdiction.

I want to take your word as truth, but we literally just dealt with 4 years of judges cockblocking Trump's investigations by yoinking cases that were outside of their jurisdiction.

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u/elmonoenano Jan 09 '25

I don't want you to take my word for it. I know it's a lot of work, but anyone can read FRCP 41(b) or 12(b)(1) and (2), and most importantly 12(h)(3) and the jurisprudence around that.

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u/anomie89 Jan 09 '25

did someone say Elon, REEEEEE