r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Jan 09 '25

Social Media ‘It’s Total Chaos Internally at Meta Right Now’: Employees Protest Zuckerberg’s Anti LGBTQ Changes. Meta's decision to specifically allow users to call LGBTQ+ people "mentally ill" has sparked widespread backlash at the company.

https://www.404media.co/its-total-chaos-internally-at-meta-right-now-employees-protest-zuckerbergs-anti-lgbtq-changes/
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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

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u/TheNextBattalion Jan 10 '25

I mean, would you go to a party where the host specifically had this policy and put it out there?

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u/pigwin Jan 10 '25

 "Metaverse" push among teens and young adults

They are not going to gain that demographic's attention. They're on Minecraft, Roblox or VRChat already. The later even has LGBTQ+ groups in it

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u/Rastiln Jan 10 '25

Yep, Twitter and Facebook aren’t gaining new, young liberals.

Fascists spent a few years floundering with Parler and Rumble and Truth Social and now have come to roost in Facebook and Twitter.

Facebook and Twitter, ever hungry for profits and seeing where the money is, therefore have changed their policies to allow hate speech and discourage anti-hate speech, to maintain a safe space for conservatives.

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u/runner64 Jan 11 '25

Exactly. Follow the money. This policy makes perfect sense if you've looked at ads on Facebook recently. It is all, and I mean all, scams. Even 'legitimate' companies like Etsy are platforming sellers whose 'product images' are obvious AI. The only people clicking on these ads are extremely elderly, extremely stupid, or both, and both of those traits are statistically associated with bigotry.

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u/sexygodzilla Jan 10 '25

The metaverse thing is already dying and their AI push is next. The lion's share of their revenue is still advertising. It's wild to me for that Zuck saw X's revenue crater as advertisers fled and decided "I should do that too"

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u/Dateline23 Jan 10 '25

exxxxxxactly this.

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u/BoxFullOfFoxes2 Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25

Something like 20% of Gen Z is queer. They're not going to want to hang out on the Metaverse if they have to hear the same old bullying they get in real life.

You might be surprised just how much infighting goes on in the queer "community" and how fractured it is, mostly at the hands of the younger generation (at least in my experiences recently). Some might think this is just fine, because it's not against them specifically. All about attacking "the right people."

(I say as a gay person. It's an odd phenomenon.)

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u/slackmarket Jan 10 '25

I’m a queer trans person in my 30s who’s seen/participated in/taken in a whooooole lot of discourse. My partner is a prof and spends a lot of time interacting with Gen Z and millennial students. Neither of us have ever once seen infighting of this type. I’ve never been called mentally ill for being queer or trans by another queer person. Not once. And I’ve experienced a lot of bullshit at the hands of queer communities, and had a fair amount of other accusations levelled at me.

Gen Z has its issues, but I don’t think one of them is lgbtq+ people calling other lgbtq+ people mentally ill for their gender or orientation.

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u/coldliketherockies Jan 10 '25

No I’ve seen it too. As a fellow gay person. I’m amazed how many either conservative or somewhat conservative gay men I’ve met (not as many as say other minority groups but) and their logic is wild. Especially if they have money they want to protect the money

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u/wrgrant Jan 10 '25

The whole point is to enable "Free Hate-Speech" to further embolden the Right and empower them to discriminate against the LGBTQ+ community. That way that hatred can be normalized when they go to open the camps...

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u/themightymooseshow Jan 10 '25

This is exactly how it should work. As much as I hate to say it, freedom of speech/, expression is freedom of speech/expression. Let the people say what they want, and if others don't like it, they can express those feelings by leaving the platform.

I don't really see a problem here myself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

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u/dopplegrangus Jan 10 '25

Why are you all so pro censorship? You really think corporations should just be given, yet forced, to control what you can or cannot see?

No wonder MAGA won this time

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u/dopplegrangus Jan 10 '25

Democratic socialism is fine but progressives are going full (R) these days

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

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u/dopplegrangus Jan 10 '25

I'm not saying stick around or use it. But rather there's insurmountable evidence of nefarious use of "content moderation" (censorship). That shit is no different than what China or Russia does to it's citizens. i can't believe i lived to see a day Americans want that

The internet has always been the wild west and that's what has made it so liberating

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u/TrexPushupBra Jan 10 '25

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/

I think facilitating genocide is bad.

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u/dopplegrangus Jan 10 '25

Sure, but who gets to decide that's what is being done? The corporation? The government?

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u/TrexPushupBra Jan 10 '25

The oligarchs in charge of the government at this current time.

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u/ZestyPotatoSoup Jan 10 '25

Have you seen the interaction this stuff gets. This post alone has 40k likes and 4k comments. This back and forth shit is money for a website.

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u/_ChicagoSummerRain Jan 10 '25

He better watch himself. I see a ton of younger people are leaving his platform for other places. I do believe he believes he's untouchable. However, I see more and more people quitting facebook.

I've always heard he was a raging asshole. This now confirms it.

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u/bhonbeg Jan 11 '25

20%? Is it rising? Why I wonder.

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u/defnotjec Jan 12 '25

They're already bleeding these members who'd quit. They're trying to keep the ones who won't.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

I won't use the platform out of support for you. It's disgusting to give dangerous bigots a megaphone right now.

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u/Annual_Wear5195 Jan 10 '25

Go speak to a therapist.

Because you clearly need one if you harbor this much resentment against a group of people that literally don't affect you in any way shape or form.

Talk about people with mental illness.

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u/Annual_Wear5195 Jan 10 '25

Being queer is not a delusion nor is saying that stating the obvious.

Similarly to the other commenter, if who someone else loves is causing you this much distress then you need to speak to a therapist because you have issues.

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u/Annual_Wear5195 Jan 10 '25

Per the very DSM that you clearly hold in such high regard:

gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder

So you can proceed to fuck right off with these obviously bigoted views.