r/technology Jan 18 '25

Social Media As US TikTok users move to RedNote, some are encountering Chinese-style censorship for the first time

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/16/tech/tiktok-refugees-rednote-china-censorship-intl-hnk/index.html
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u/ClassroomNo6016 Jan 19 '25

The whole of the global south sees LGBT rights as a new form of western imperialism

Yeah, many conservative Muslim and conservative Christian politicians in the Middle East and Africa justify their anti-LGBT policies by trying to frame their opposition to LGBT as opposition as "Western imperialism, western degeneracy, western cultural imperialism". They erroneously view LGBT rights and LGBT stuff as "the imposition of western imperialism"

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u/archontwo Jan 19 '25

"Western imperialism, western degeneracy, western cultural imperialism". 

In what way is that not the reality? 

For decades now US foreign policy has to be to aggressively bring its form of 'democracy' to every other country whether they wanted it or not. 

They often use methods like 'colour revolutions' to regime change governments and install 'western friendly leaders' and their vassals states even go so far as to cancel elections when things don't go their way. 

So yeah, looking from the outside that is precisely what is looks like. The spiralling fall of big Hollywood studios is just one sign of the times, with more people not taking this ideological nonsense any more.

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u/nothingpersonnelmate Jan 19 '25

For decades now US foreign policy has to be to aggressively bring its form of 'democracy' to every other country whether they wanted it or not. 

They often use methods like 'colour revolutions' to regime change governments and install 'western friendly leaders' and their vassals states even go so far as to cancel elections when things don't go their way. 

It was common back in the 60s or 70s as part of the cold war but far less common now. What examples are you thinking of, for colour revolutions instigated by the West?

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u/archontwo Jan 19 '25

What examples are you thinking of, for colour revolutions instigated by the West?

Just a few this century, but if you count proxies like the EU well just look at what they cooked up in Romania

If you thought you'd seen the last of the Russiagate style pysops, think again.

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u/nothingpersonnelmate Jan 20 '25

https://wiki.infrawiki.us/index.php/List_of_color_revolutions

This page seems to be based on the premise that if an action occurs, performed by humans, somewhere on the planet earth, the CIA was responsible.

cooked up in Romania

Romania hasn't had a revolution.

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u/resuwreckoning Jan 20 '25

This page seems to be based on the premise that if an action occurs, performed by humans, somewhere on the planet earth, the CIA was responsible.

I mean, this is true of Reddit also.

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u/ClassroomNo6016 Jan 19 '25

In what way is that not the reality? 

For decades now US foreign policy has to be to aggressively bring its form of 'democracy' to every other country whether they wanted it or not. 

They often use methods like 'colour revolutions' to regime change governments and install 'western friendly leaders' and their vassals states even go so far as to cancel elections when things don't go their way. 

Well, what do LGBT people have to do with these? It is true that currently most countries that have expansive LGBT rights are Western countries. But that doesn't mean that the existence of LGBT people is limited to or caused by "Western countries or culture". LGBT people have existed in almost all cultures, civilizations and countries throughout history. The existence of LGBT people far predates what we currently call "The Western or Eastern culture" (just like the existence of straight people).

And, most Western countries which are currently have expansive LGBT rights used to be extremely anti-LGBT until 60-70 years ago. If one is going to oppose LGBT rights because they somehow equate LGBT rights with "Western culture", then would they have advocated for LGBT rights if they lived 100 years ago because at that time, most Western countries were very anti-LGBT ? Should one's opposition or acceptance of LGBT rights be dependent upon what Western countries/Western culture do regarding LGBT rights?

For decades now US foreign policy has to be to aggressively bring its form of 'democracy' to every other country whether they wanted it or not. 

Neither USA nor China nor Russia have any real democracy. Because neither of them have a real multi-party(not two party or single party) parliamentary system. Yes, USA is not a real democracy, but neither China nor USA nor Iran.