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This guy's presentation on ADHD is excellent

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JowPOqRmxNs
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u/dirtyploy May 30 '17

Oh man, yes so hard. Adderall gave me bad jaw clenching, appetite suppression, etc. The change was like "Oh man... so much better"

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u/plug4preme May 30 '17 edited May 30 '17

Yea, plus it is not abusable; folks with actual ADHD prefer to feel normal and with how the lysine compound is attached to the amphetamine it has to go through the liver to activate. This is why Shire, manufacturer of Adderall XR, are phasing out the XR's and trying to promote this rather new medicine

edit: by abusable, I mean you cannot snort it like an adderall XR/IR. It must be ingested

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17 edited Jun 06 '17

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u/zombieznub May 30 '17

Get a better doctor

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17

Honestly, go to a different doctor. Find a psychiatrist. You need somebody who will listen to you, give you the chance to explain 35 years of struggles, and then let them guide you through the process of finding what you need. Sometimes, they make people go through the different "non-stimulants," but if it isn't working and you have been able to show to your psychiatrist that you are trying to get better and that you can handle this, then most will be willing to start you on a low dose and see how things go. Also, having weekly therapy sessions (psychiatrists and therapists will usually exchange notes and keep each other in the loop about shared patients, especially higher risk ones) is another great piece of evidence that you're there to get treatment, not get high.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17 edited May 30 '17

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u/FailedToCompile May 30 '17

I also have had alcohol issues, got hospitalized 3 times for alcohol induced pancreatitis. I recently got diagnosed with ADHD, the inattentive one. I don't see why they just don't keep it as being called ADD. Anyways I was too scared to tell my Doctor about my alcohol issues so I lied.... I have to go see my other doctor and I don't know what he's gonna do if he sees I got prescribed Adderall because he knows about my past. I have been taking it for a couple months now and it has changed my life. I hope they don't take it away, it is helping so much.

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u/plug4preme May 30 '17

It's an amphetamine, they won't prescribe schedule II stimulants if they deem you to be a risk for abuse. Stratera/Concerta are non-stimulant medicines. I would find a different doctor and let them know.

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u/DrQuantumDOT May 30 '17

Concerta (methylphenidate) is still a stimulant

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u/plug4preme May 30 '17

Sorry I get them mixed up sometimes, yea concerta is just ritalin

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u/matt_damons_brain May 30 '17

Concerta

is just ritalin in a form that can't be snorted

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17 edited Jun 06 '17

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u/GreyFoxMe May 30 '17

He might have self-medicated before he knew he had ADHD. That's what I did.

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u/dn00 May 30 '17

It's pretty common.

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u/pthalio May 30 '17

Concerta gave me migraines, Vyvanse gave me chest pains and aggrivated my asthma. Personally the Adderall is my best option.

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u/plug4preme May 30 '17

Everyone is different, it's not a one size fits all. The struggle of finding the right medicine that works best for you is all trail and error.

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u/kbjami May 30 '17

I remember my doctor wanted to put me on stratera after being on adderall xr for a year. I was in 5th grade I believe at the time.... worst fucking week. I still remember the migraines everyday for that week and I flat out refused to take it (I wasn't one to refuse things outright)

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17

I tried Straterra

Calmed me down, definitely less agitation, not as likely to cross the line socially but... I feel like its done fuck all for my focus/organisation/procrastination etc

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17 edited Jun 06 '17

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17

Oh god yes.

This is more of an issue the higher the dose. I want to come down off 100mg as a result.

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u/YogurtCoveredAsian May 30 '17

Happy Broccoli. Not for everyone, but could be an avenue to explore.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17 edited Jun 06 '17

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u/YogurtCoveredAsian May 30 '17

Like I said, not for everybody and definitely different effects depending on the person. Calms me down, reduces anxiety, and it causes me to be much more productive/focused.

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u/HaltAndCatchTheKnick Jun 01 '17

Honestly you should get a referral for a new doctor and not mention the addiction.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '17

Vyvanse is definitely abusable. I used to get high as fuck on vyvanse, me and my friends would take like double to triple the dose and it would make us feel gacked out.

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u/plug4preme May 30 '17

abusable in the sense of snorting it to get the immediate effect. It doesn't work with snorting... of course you can abuse it by double/tripling the dosage

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u/dirtyploy May 30 '17

I knew what you meant. Worked pharmacy for 12 years, I got to see ALL Kinds.

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u/synds May 30 '17 edited May 30 '17

Vyvanse was more euphoric than Adderall was for me -- it's definitely abusable. The lysine in Vyvanse just makes it so it can only be absorbed by the g-tract so you can't insufflate it, hence "pro-drug" but it still gets you high by ingesting it orally.

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u/Traabs May 30 '17

Adderall did all this for me as well, but it also had a side effect of making me hyper focus on ONE thing. To the detriment of everything else. Once I focused on that one thing, I'd quite literally ignore everything else, Family, feeding myself, any other responsibilities, I just wouldn't care in the slightest about taking care of it until that one task was finished. To top all that off, I wasn't guaranteed to hyper focus on something that was actually important. Sometimes it'd be something just totally random.

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u/dirtyploy May 30 '17

I knew what to look for, so when I started getting that on the XR's, I immediately asked to change up my meds and lower my dose and taper up. My dr knew I worked pharmacy and we had had extensive talks at that point, so he listened when I told him about side effects and things that were happening.

Unfortunately not all people have that kind of relationship with their dr. I told a buddy to start jotting down his side effects to take in to his dr later to show what he was dealing with.

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u/MdMc33 May 30 '17

The jaw clenching is starting to ruin my life, it's no joke!

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u/dirtyploy May 30 '17

Trust me, get off whatever you're taking and try something else! The change helped me so much it was ridiculous.

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u/LyKam_Yung May 30 '17

Yeah, all my life I've had episodes of pain. So I went to my doctor and got prescribe OxyContin. They are an absolute MIRACLE!. Praise be! Next week I'm going to try to get switched to Fentanyl patches because I hear it's a smoother ride.