r/wallstreetbets • u/TonyBerdata27 • Feb 04 '25
Gain Made $18k in less than 1 minute by accidentally sniping mispriced ask
I put in a large market order this morning, and somehow bought 1.9k shares at 75 cents each while the stock was actually trading for ~10$
I cropped out the ticker because it has <300M MC, but had to share this because this is so unbelievably regarded that I think I might have bought off one of you guys.
TLDR: I stole someone's shares for 90% discount because they probably mis-entered their limit order.
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u/1kto1mill Feb 04 '25
Someone is gut wrenched crying in a fetal position on the other end of this trade 
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u/freehouse_throwaway Smitty Werbenjägermanjensen Feb 04 '25
lol at that moment/day OP was the market maker for this underlying
wtf...
the thing is almost all platforms will prompt you if you're entering a limit trade price far from the recent ask/trade. so i do wonder what the hell happened here.
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u/soso18n Feb 04 '25
He probably wanted to put in 75$ and just hit yes real fast
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u/damnatio_memoriae Feb 04 '25
nah, they meant to put in “10.75” but they missed the “1” and just entered “0.75” — oops.
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u/Previous_Topic_9302 Feb 04 '25
Was this you
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u/---cheetos--- Feb 04 '25
He was probably wearing a brown shirt at the time and eating cool ranch doritos 😭
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u/thebourbonoftruth Feb 04 '25
You can prompt users all you want, people will just smack "OK" without a second thought or reading the message. You could tell them they'd get cancer and they'd click through.
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u/80_Percent_Done Feb 04 '25
Nah. It will get trade corrected and e custodian will eat it.
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u/FeedMeTaffy Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
That depends largely who keyed in the trade (agent/broker or self managed?) and how much social capital the individual has
Say this was a boutique firm's largest client using his "day trading" account, then firm might eat it. If it's Joe Schmoe on WeBull whos cat climbed on the keyboard, firm will tell him to suck it
edit: technically and officially neither should be corrected away, but in the interest of keeping a large client happy a brokerage will look the other way and "own" the input error
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u/NoAccountant6847 Feb 04 '25
Serious question: So when you make money on a trade, does the other person lose the exact amount of money you made or can they cut their losses, while your side of the contract is still going ?
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u/1kto1mill Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
These are shares, unless the seller bought these for less than .75 cents, they are losing money. How much they lost entirely depends on their cost of entry. This looks like the seller meant to type 10.75 but missed the 1 when making the order, so they probably took a big loss.
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u/Migaruke Feb 04 '25
The seller sold 1900 shares at 75 cents a share, so they made $1,425 from this single transaction.
If they had sold the shares at the correct price of $10ish dollars, they would have made $19,000 from the transaction instead.
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u/glitched_system1 Feb 04 '25
100% sure it was someone from here.
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u/Low_Answer_6210 Feb 04 '25
It was 1000 percent someone from here he’s prob reading the thread right now (it’s def not me)
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u/No-Engineer-4692 Feb 04 '25
Got him!
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u/FuturecashEth Feb 04 '25
Asking for a friend, what happens if I set my limit order waaay lower for testing?
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u/SenileGhandi Feb 04 '25
Depends on the broker and the volume. I've listed a sell with a small typo and the order fulfilled at market price instead of my lower limit. Thanks for looking out Robinhood, life can be hard for us regards
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u/StonkaTrucks Feb 04 '25
Yeah, I don't understand what broker sells for literally your limit price. I thought it was always just at least that price.
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u/wholovesshortshorts Feb 04 '25
Schwab wont even allow it. It'll ask you to check your amount but still ghost the submit button
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u/b-lincoln Feb 04 '25
Usually, the broker will sell it at market or try to fill at best price. To me, this is a market maker error, not a broker.
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u/nongregorianbasin Feb 04 '25
If i was smart enough to think i knew how options work, i could think it was me
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u/Cll_Rx Feb 04 '25
I have no idea how they work either. I have just been getting very lucky making a few dollars every day with them. 0dte been good to me quick in and out
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u/ThatAlbertaMan Feb 04 '25
OK, tell me more what your plan is because I actually understand them and just lose money
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u/stillpractising Feb 04 '25
Alright man u really want to know? There is actually one secret to investing and making money from trading, and all u have to do is just buy low, then sell high. Its really that simple. Follow me for more investment adivce
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u/ThatAlbertaMan Feb 04 '25
Oh yes, how could I have forgotten? I’ve been buying high and selling low. Dang it.
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u/stillpractising Feb 04 '25
Ah yes, the ol’ buy high and sell low trading strategy. Pretty common on wsb actually
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u/Ok-Flounder-1281 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 09 '25
Idiot. (I buy high, sell low, then watch the price double)
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u/dumazzmudafuka Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
It's easy. Just wait until the price action is volatile and buy calls if it's going up and puts if it's going down. I like to go maybe about 2-3 $ otm. Bet 100% of your account. If you're wrong, cut your losses short and try again the next day. If you're right, get high off the thrill of winning until it starts moving against you or you think it's done moving then secure your gains. Simple. I don't even understand any of the greeks. Nor do I factor them in at all, or want to.
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u/Key_Net_2682 Feb 04 '25
This but I bet the opposite direction of current movement, 50% of the time it works 100% of the time
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u/Low_Answer_6210 Feb 04 '25
Bruh you’re either really lucky or so stupid you’re smart because that’s a quick way to burn all your money
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u/ExtremeEffective106 Feb 04 '25
Measure twice, cut once!
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u/well_actuallyyyy Feb 04 '25
No no you've got it all wrong. It's measure once, cut twice
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u/Odd_Donkey8241 Feb 04 '25
On here reading this and still don't realize it is them they are talking about .
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u/Wise-Transition8450 Feb 04 '25
somebody is going to be eating cardboard and drinking garbage water until March, oh and probably evicted
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u/technoexplorer Feb 04 '25
OP owns 1/5000 of this company, too, with its market cap.
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u/Chocolate-Then Feb 04 '25
He’s expected at the board meeting tomorrow morning.
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Feb 04 '25
"So TonyBerdata27, what made you decide to join the board as a controlling shareholder?"
I uhhhh-
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u/hv876 Feb 04 '25
That’s not the only one minute mistake in that person’s life
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u/jelaras Feb 04 '25
You last one minute? Bragging?
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u/K1rkl4nd Feb 04 '25
Is that why the Mrs. refers to me as her "second" husband even though she's never been married before?
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u/r-shackleford Feb 04 '25
I always assumed the brokerage just snapped up these types of mistakes for themselves.
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u/Chance-Permit4247 Feb 04 '25
They do lol
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u/Catoutofthebag69 Feb 04 '25
So why wouldn’t they have gotten this one? I’d assume the way to find these small mistakes is through software anyway.
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u/aRedit-account Feb 04 '25
Would be the market maker, not brokage. That is what payment for order flow is supposed be.
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u/Randomly-Looking Feb 04 '25
Dude outplayed the algos, quants, and AI.
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u/0RGASMIK Feb 04 '25
I was listening to some shills talk about day trading and they were talking about a guy who basically became a legend in the early days of day trading by sniping deals like this. Basically just praying on boomers learning to trade on a computer for the first time.
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u/wewewess Feb 04 '25
Yeah, I don't even understand how this is possible
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u/skelo Feb 04 '25
Big traders dont auto trade small market cap companies cuz they could be scams i.e. maybe somebody manipulated the price up but it actually is only worth 1 cent a share, or the company could have conflict of interest or doing something that the company doesn't want to invest in.
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u/lightning_whirler Feb 04 '25
Should've kept buying, there might've been a few thousand more shares on sale.
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u/roastedbagel Feb 04 '25
You can find these everyday with options believe it or not.
I know I'm not the only one here who's got some years under the belt setting up typo-hunting buy orders each morning before the market opens.
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u/MedusaOblongGato Feb 04 '25
So if I'm reading OP's story right, he was legit looking for 1900 shares at the proper price, and happened to buy right when some fool happened to be selling at 0.75. So how to you intentionally find these? Just punch in some buy orders way below what it oughta be, and see if anything rolls in?
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u/UOkayBrah Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
No, OP was looking for 5000 shares and it happened that underneath the first 3100, there was 1900 for $0.75. If you are intentionally looking for these mis-pricings, you need to have what's called 'level 2' market access. (non-shit) Brokers will give you level 2 access if you meet certain criteria, examples of which could be:
- >$X of investable capital
- >Y number of trades per quarter
Then you can see the order book on Nasdaq, which shows the next 5-7 levels of bid ask limit orders. So it will say on the ask side:
- 1000 @ 10.78
- 1500 @ 10.77
- 10000 @ 10.75
- 1900 @ 0.75
Normally the levels are huge and spreads are thin because the stocks we look at are large to mega cap, but in small cap and thinly traded the spreads can be wide. IF some idiot misprices and it hits the book, the shares are going to get grabbed. A Market order for 14,400 shares would eat up that entire spread in my example above, assuming someone didn't price in more levels in the middle of the purchase. Usually this happens fast by players with lots of money and lots of market data access. In this case OP found a random ticker that didn't happen to be monitored closely at that time.
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u/bean710 Feb 05 '25
Why do you have to buy through the more expensive offers to get to the cheaper one?
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u/UOkayBrah Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25
What I am assuming happened was the person set up a stop limit to sell. Stop at 10.75 and a limit at 0.75 to make sure that their order would then be the first to fill at market (could have been a typo but I'm not sure who does a stop limit 10.75-10.75). Probably because they are worried about thinly traded stocks falling quickly, ie - you place a stop limit at 10.75 (stop loss) with the limit sell at 10.70, but if the price immediately drops below the 10.70 your shares wont sell, your stop limit gets skipped and you become a bag holder.
By setting a super low limit (to trigger after your stop loss), you're telling the broker you are fine with any price >$0.75, which means your order will get matched with whatever the next level of bid is sitting. IE - someone bidding to buy shares at $10, will buy your shares immediately for $10.
However, if OP is the only one buying so there are no limit bid orders in the queue, and OP choose buy at market with no other Asks in the queue either. Then your limit sell order just converts to 0.75 with nothing in between $10.75 and $0.75, so OPs purchase order drops down to your level since you just set the market at $0.75.
I do amend my earlier statement, since level 2 isn't going to show you lower asks after higher asks. This was more likely stop loss hunting, unless the guy just happened to set a limit dump 13 seconds after OP bought the last of the shares on the order book. Not impossible but very unlikely.
It's basically - there were 5000 shares for sale and no one other than OP wanted any. No one had any limit bid orders set up. The person selling the 1900 shares didn't have access to see all the different asks that were set up or didn't know how to check. Then in the end, OP and that person were the only two orders left and it happened that their limit sell was $0.75 so they got what they asked for lmao
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u/StandardChemist6287 Feb 04 '25
I was on the hunt and got hunted down. I put a very low offer for some in the money puts as just a marker so I can come back later and decide what I wanted to do. It was 10k worth in a small cap stock with zero open interest. Someone sold me those puts then raised the price of the stock almost instantly. My in the money puts went out of the money and stayed there until it expired worthless. Watch out there folks I didn’t think they cared about 10k lol
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u/ElectroTurk Feb 04 '25
This is unreal. I think I need to start looking out for these kinds of things.
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u/TaftsTummyforTaxes Feb 04 '25
This is like going to the ATM and finding 18k just sitting there
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u/BlitzcrankGrab Feb 04 '25
That might actually be riskier. You never know who that money was intended for.
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u/throwawaayy011 Feb 04 '25
Not quite. One is unintentional legal predatory and the other is outright theft.
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u/Throwaway_6799 Feb 04 '25
How does the sell order not automatically get filled at a higher price (assuming there were buy orders in the system for a higher price)?
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u/TonyBerdata27 Feb 04 '25
I'm confused about this as well
my guess is because I put in a market order that made up a large % of the daily volume for this stock, my order was the only one being worked on the book and took priority?
hope fidelity doesn't ask for it back
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u/Just_Process8411 Feb 04 '25
Hi. I’m fidelity. I want the money back ASAP.
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u/alex206 Feb 04 '25
Hello dear, we need it paid back in Apple gift cards otherwise you're going to jail
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u/rjbarn small brain, smaller peen Feb 04 '25
I am the FBI. I also need payment in gift cards or cashapp. If not, I’ll send the cops
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u/BlitzcrankGrab Feb 04 '25
Alarm! This guy is NOT Fidelity. Fidelity will never contact you directly. This is a scam. I know this because I am Fidelity. Give the money back to me.
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u/Greenpeppers23 Feb 04 '25
This is insane! Yea your order just happened to be enter precisely the same time this guy sold. No way fidelity can ask for this back.
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u/UnluckyStartingStats Feb 04 '25
Can't you just as easily get fucked on market orders if spread is wide?
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u/nitpickr Feb 04 '25
Yes. The ask could also have been 100.75 and then the post would have had a different tune.
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u/Competitive_Jacket74 Feb 04 '25
how is this possible on a limit order? Wouldn't that act as an upper bound?
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Feb 04 '25
was your order placed and waiting for a while before being filled or was it filled when you sent it?
this doesn’t make sense if your order was sent after the sellers because the market makers would have just taken those shares
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u/TonyBerdata27 Feb 04 '25
Seller had to have entered their order while mine was being worked already, as you can see in the second photo this was ~2 mins into it being filled
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Feb 04 '25
yeah they probably meant to limit order for $10.75 and forgot the 1. your order was so big on an illiquid stock it bypassed the market maker and went straight to you
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u/sdas99 Feb 04 '25
He got a little taste of citadel’s business model here, must be nice
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u/Icy_Communication262 Feb 04 '25
Mods, we literally have our own Shitadel! Can we get this guy a flair?
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u/TonyBerdata27 Feb 04 '25
They have thousands of quants developing algorithms to trade in ten-thousandths of a second, Me, an experienced wsb soldier, I just press the buy button. Market buy
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u/drumsplease987 Feb 04 '25
Market makers submit their bid/ask price/quantity to the exchange like everyone else. If this ticket doesn’t have a market maker OR OP’s order exceeded the market maker’s initial ask and a new ask wasn’t placed, then the exchange will facilitate trades as they come in.
Definitely an unusual move by OP to place a market order with a greater quantity than all outstanding asks.
/u/TonyBerdata27 you got lucky that they didn’t typo for 100.75 or you would have lost $162k.
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u/bonkerseastcoast Feb 04 '25
this ticket is under OTCM so there are market makers like citadel
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u/bonkerseastcoast Feb 04 '25
not really, fidelity system will choose the lowest ask during a market buy. if there was no one other than the person selling the 10$ share at 100$ yes maybe. But I bet there were many market makers asking above the market price like in any stock market
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u/drumsplease987 Feb 04 '25
I bet there were many market makers asking above the market price like in any stock market
In that case OP would have been paying above market price for his oversized market order, and my advice still stands.
There’s no magic “fidelity system” that protects you from overpaying on market orders that exceed the current ask quantity, which is exactly what OP did. Look at the timestamps. Market orders will fill instantly unless there is no counterparty at all.
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u/CubeBrute Feb 04 '25
That doesn’t make sense, even if OP ate the sell side of the order book, the ask side would still be untouched
Unless there was literally no other asks
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u/BVVanceRefrigeration Feb 04 '25
^ this. Also it would mean the share price would have legitimately went from $10 to .75 instantly which would have triggered halts.
Also, any counterparty could sue for not following NBBO.
He 100% bought from a market maker who wholesales (citadel, virtu, etc) and their system fucked up. 0% chance it came from a real participant.
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u/shadi150 Feb 04 '25
It happened to me last year with PAA calls (I think it was PAA). I did a market order and it filled like 25% lower. No idea how it happened but it was lit lol. Seems like it only happens to things that are low volume. Considering yours is >$300M MC then I can come to the conclusion that it’s likely low volume as well. I know that’s not always the case but I know my trade was for sure low volume.
You got your shit for pennies though, good shit.
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u/jtbee629 Feb 04 '25
Happened to me once. Only made out with like 3k but they never asked and it’s been about 2 years since
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u/RonaldWRailgun Feb 04 '25
The wonderous accidents of trading stocks with low liquidity and high volatility, I'd assume? IDK.
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u/nardling_13 Feb 04 '25
It does seem like the logical thing to do would be to cross it at the best bid, give the seller price improvement. Idk what the matching engine does if there’s no other bids in that case.
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u/WarnWarmWorm Feb 04 '25
Me after reading this randomly placing buy orders at the fraction of the share price of random stocks hoping to hit the jackpot
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u/RoaringPity Feb 04 '25
I never knew it was possible to do that
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u/throwawaayy011 Feb 04 '25
Yea i was confused. My trading platform gives you, as a seller, the higher of your ask or the market bid. If I were OP, this would make me move my portfolio elsewhere. Not sure what other bugs there are lurking in their platform.
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u/conspiracypopcorn0 Feb 04 '25
In fact they do that. On highly liquid stocks with lots of volume you are basically 100% safe even putting a 0.1$ sell order to get market price. The same does not apply to the stock of a random micro cap company, with very low volume. Then it's entirely possible to just buy out all the offers at market price and go through the order book onto mispriced offers.
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u/TonyBerdata27 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Also I'm kind of stressing if the broker will revert this. There was no system-wide glitch or anything so they shouldn't, right? Just guessing this was my counterparty's fault so I can keep it.
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u/Zentaury Feb 04 '25
Is one of my biggest fears trading haha, that I forget to set up a limit order, and market just fills at cents and money puff! Fugazzi
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u/NYSDiscExchange Feb 04 '25
Was watching NVDA after hours on webull today and people were filling sell orders at $190.
Sucks to suck I guess.
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u/No_Arm_6582 Really has two Arms Feb 04 '25
I’ve had almost the exact same thing happen years ago on TD Ameritrade. Like a dumbass I actually called and questioned it (figured I’d avoid problems down the road) was told the order filled and the shares were mine
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u/bonkerseastcoast Feb 04 '25
I heard that OP also called and asked same way, but while they put him on-hold, he sold all shares to cash. when they returned to the call he told them about the sale and they said its ok
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u/Wise-Transition8450 Feb 04 '25
Of course you keep it, someone done fucked up on their end. Have you heard of the JCOM incident trade? Even they couldn't revert it.
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u/Correct-Youth-8159 Feb 04 '25
this is one of the most stupid but at the same time amazing things ever
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u/imaginarytrades Feb 04 '25
Whoever did this was absolutely trading with their kid around bugging them
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u/chuck_portis Feb 04 '25
Putting in a market order for $19,000 USD worth of stock in a <300M MC company is fairly regarded in its own right. This ticker appears to be the battle of the regards.
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u/jabbaji Feb 04 '25
Someone was trying to legalize their black money. OP sniped before him. Cartel wants to know your location.
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u/Adam_Nine Feb 04 '25
Only a WSB user using Robinhood would fat finger an order this bad. Probably why you scooped the shares as well since RH gets such shitty fill priority.
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u/stan_cartman Feb 04 '25
Do you think they might have fat fingered 7.50?
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u/TonyBerdata27 Feb 04 '25
More likely is they wanted to do 10.75 but missed the 1
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u/King_Siege Feb 04 '25
I've done that before trading on the toilet in the morning
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u/Prestigious-Oven3465 Feb 04 '25
Are you saying you fat fingered on the toilet? Wanna hang out?
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u/Sir_Grindalot Feb 04 '25
That was a very costly missed 1, lmao
At least I'm assuming the seller saw the average price around 10.75, wanted to type it but missed the 1 and sold at 0.75 because he didn't notice it was missing the 1 in front.
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u/Trash_Taste1 Feb 04 '25
That was me, can I get the extra 9.25$ I forgot to put the ask per share for? Thanks!
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u/Beardless-Pete Feb 04 '25
This is like picking Charmander as a starter, opening the ball, and getting a shining Charizard instead.
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u/_ginj_ Feb 04 '25
Holy shit this can happen IRL? I just thought it was a OSRS thing in the GE
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u/superstition40 Feb 04 '25
This doesn't make sense to me. I was certain that the brokerage sells at the higher bids available for the client.
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u/pancaf Feb 04 '25
It's likely a low volume stock that had no other bids at the time. OP did a market buy order that took 2 minutes to fill. His buy was basically just filling as sells came in
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u/cpapp22 Feb 04 '25
LMAO I’m waiting to see the trade confirmation from the seller because he’s definitely here
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u/VibrantHeat7 Feb 04 '25
I'm new
How can you buy shares at a mispriced ask? Is this options or regular stocks?
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u/Canserstyx90 Feb 04 '25
This is the equivalent of a 4 lb block of solid gold plummeting out of the sky and landing in an already open gift box on your front porch, followed by fanfare and confetti
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u/rondoisthebest Feb 04 '25
The seller accidentally put the wrong value in their limit order and OP was the only bid at the time because the stock has low volume
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u/MorganTargaryen Feb 04 '25
none of u realize that OP being on fidelity software makes this 1000x nuttier
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u/Brothernod Feb 04 '25
How’s that math play out? (Pretty please)
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u/jelaras Feb 04 '25
He mis-typed 20 million. He meant 2 billion.
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u/AMadWalrus Feb 04 '25
I think he meant 200billion actually.
Whoever made the mistake? Prepare for the next 50 generations of your progeny suffering in debt from your mistake.
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u/Acrobatic-Wolf-297 Feb 04 '25
Let me Re-math that. I read 1,900,000. Its actually 1,900.000 for the quantity. Meaning he sold 1900 at .75 when likely he meant to do 1900 at 10.75
The Loss was close to 20k not 20 million lol!!
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u/Huge_Catcity6516 Feb 04 '25
Come on man, the seller lost exactly what OP gained. The answer already on the pictures. Why do you regards have to make it more complicated?
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u/Ok-Holiday-4392 Feb 04 '25
I used to do this in RuneScape. I’d put in an order for dragon scimitars at like 100gp. Sometimes it would take a couple weeks to fill sometimes I’d get a fill every day. Never thought to try it irl.
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u/Bossggl Feb 04 '25
I think you either destroyed someone who missed a digit in their limit order OR you destroyed someone via their stop loss in a moment where you ate up all the pending shares. More likely the former, bad timing for them, lottery win for you.
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u/LagunaMud Feb 04 '25
Kinda makes me want to enter a bunch of limit orders way below price and just let them sit for awhile. Only problem is it would tie up a bunch of capital.
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u/Still-Repeat-487 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
I learned this lesson last year.. I placed a market sell order at 9:25am on 20 call options on ZIM after their earnings.. lol they should’ve been like $2+ each i think Zim was up I think 4-5% in pre-market.. lol they got sold for .01 cents each right at 9:30 then by 9:31am they were like $2
Talk about a guh moment
If it was one of you regards that stole em FU lol
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u/chriztuffa Feb 04 '25
This is like when I used to get lucky station trading in jita 4-4 in Eve online
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u/99DogsButAPugAintOne Feb 04 '25
Serious question. Can the seller take you to court over this? Contract law says you can't intentionally exploit an obvious mistake for personal gain in my area. Google suggests this is pretty common.
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u/Exclave Feb 04 '25
Congrats, though I'd be surprised if the trade doesn't get rolled back as an "exchange error". Don't be surprised if you are 1900 shares less and $1,425 more in the next 24 hours.
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u/damnatio_memoriae Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
lol so they forgot to put the “1” in the “10” — ironically, the most significant digit, lol.
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u/clarkefromtheark boomer Feb 04 '25
dont u feel bad? id call the brokerage and offer it back. this is messed up dude..
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u/Pyramyth Feb 04 '25
The brokerage may eat the loss for the unlucky fellow on the other end, but the gains are all yours. Congratulations!
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