r/wallstreetbets • u/ValuableKill • 16d ago

News The Secretary of Commerce is now recommending you buy specific stocks.

“I think if you want to learn something on this show tonight, buy Tesla,” Lutnick said. “It’s unbelievable that this guy’s stock is this cheap. It’ll never be this cheap again.”

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/howard-lutnick-fox-news-tesla-stock-b2718762.html

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u/stolemyusername 16d ago

The voters only "care" about trans people.

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u/narkybark 16d ago

You joke, but question conservatives and this is one of the first answers you'll get. This and how Elon is awesome for all the "waste and fraud" he's finding.

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u/GPT3-5_AI 16d ago edited 16d ago

In Mr. Musk's defence, he also found Enola Gay and some black people when he copied and pasted all those confidential government databases into his personal chatgpt clone.

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u/Confident-Potato2305 16d ago

we should you know, do the thing to them

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u/Nurgle 16d ago

Shoebody do bop

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u/Nova35 16d ago

Brother of Mario?

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u/NobodyImportant13 16d ago edited 16d ago

bioDIVERSITY. TRANSgentic mice. Crop rotation & cancer research is woke.

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u/Cloaked42m 1 lg black please 16d ago

Local admins did search queries on Keywords and generated spreadsheets. You then had a very short suspense date to review and report on what you did.

If you couldn't review it in time, delete it.

Apparently, one admin ran a script to copy with a dei prefix, remove permissions, and THEN delete.

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u/GiveMeNews 15d ago

A gay woman in my army? I don't think so! God bless you, Musk!

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u/TittysForever 16d ago

That waste and fraud Jackie Robinson.

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u/RamenJunkie 16d ago

You ask these people and they can't answer one single actual instance of "fraud" that has been found.

Not one.

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u/fishbert hi 16d ago

with a straight face they will respond with "transgender mice"

🤦‍♂️

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 16d ago

I never understood how transgenic mice became transgender

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u/fishbert hi 16d ago

I never understood how transgenic mice became transgender

millions of taxpayer dollars, that's how! 🙃 (kill me now)

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u/narkybark 16d ago

Search for "trans", point at screen, immediately tweet about it.

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u/lentilsfan 16d ago

I saw a comment the other day where someone was 100% confident that 'dysmorphia' and 'dysphoria' meant the same things and it was just a word shell game... So much knowledge is right at their fingertips but it's all wasted on them. I don't get it. 

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 16d ago

I feel like we live in a move from 2006.

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u/strip_club_dj 16d ago

These aren't the brightest people. And the white house knows this and even felt the need to post a fact check on it's website and have the press secretary double down on the misinterpretation.

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u/jocem009 16d ago

Just your daily dose of sensationalism backed up by the confident ignorance of the Fox News cattle.

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u/rmphys 16d ago

By living their best lives!

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u/RamenJunkie 16d ago

I saw an actual breakdown of where the number came from.  It's almost worse, because basically all of that 8 million, which is not even that much for research, was on mice, involving some form of hormones.

You know, like how research is done, let's see if this interacts with this thing everyone has.

But because it would include things like "male mice injected with estrogen", they "assume" isn't "trans mice."

I forget the details, because it was all forgettable nonsense, but there was I think like 1 of the 8 programs that, maybe sort of almost could be considered "trans mice" if you stretch that rubber band to the absolute edge of stretching.

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 16d ago

TransGenic is manipluation of the genetic material, like making mice long haired - I think they just cannot read and don't understand the difference between Genetics and Gender, and think every "trans" is about gender or things they don't like.

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u/RamenJunkie 16d ago

No, I get that correlation and that it was in the news.  But the list involved several studies.  Like was involved I think some drug, on mice that had been also injected with testosterone and/or estrogen.

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u/OfficeSalamander 16d ago

And those 8 million dollars cost the average tax payer about one cent each (average tax payer pays about $8000 in taxes for a 6.75 trillion dollar budget, and the studies were $8 millionish, which comes out to like 0.012 dollars IIRC)

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u/UnclassifiedTrash 15d ago

Because conservatives are absolute masters at taking something that actually happened and turning it into something that didn’t quite happen via their own illiteracy to further their cause. Transgender mice? $100 million for condoms in Gaza? Litter boxes at schools for kids who identify as cats? All shit that actually happened turned into something that didn’t.

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u/SirGlass 13d ago

I posted this on another sub. I live in a small bumfuck state in the middle of nowhere.

I was surprised when doge said they had cut a fraudulent contract for 6 million dollars in my state, they said the contract was to "study magic"

I live in a small state and thought this was odd so I wanted to know what the fuck was happening, is the federal government really giving money to study magic?

The contract was a grant to build a science center. It was a DOD grant as the town it is built in has a large air force base close buy.

It's called "the magic City science center"

The towns name is Minot , it's nickname is "the magic City" for some reason, trust me nothing magical happens there.

Also , it listed it for 6 million, that was the total cost, the feds paid about 1.5 million and the city, state , and private donations paid the rest.

Also it was built years ago and started operating in 2022. Meaning the money had already been paid out and spent, there was nothing to cancel.

Yet the full 6 million was counted to the doge saving.

Doge not only lied about the purpose of the grant , they also lied about the amount. They also lied saying they cancelled it , the money was already spent.

Yet a 1.5 million grant that was spent years ago, was added as 6 million in savings to there bullshit reporting.

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u/MudVivid8166 16d ago

wtf is doge.gov then? This shit is honestly pretty confusing

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u/Wow_u_sure_r_dumb 16d ago

I always ask these people why there’s been no arrests for all the fraud. Someone collecting social security for some dead person who is 150 years old should be a closed and shut case. But there’s thousands of these cases and yet… no charges. Odd.

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u/Dense_Department6484 16d ago

this is the same all over, I am in Romania listening on the radio about Romanians in London saying they can't stand seeing gay people in the street, so they want us to leave the European Union that allowed them to live and work in the UK in the first place before brexit, and doubled our GDP, gave us money for highways etc., all because this piece of shit can't stand the ideea of gay people having basic rights (they still don't in Romania and now every politician is racing to say how anti-gay they are)

let me remind you we are directly next to Ukraine being invaded by a war monger criminal, but our big problem is gay people

these people are scum fascists who despise liberal democracy, they want authoritarians punishing people who aren't part of their ethnicity+religion+whatever the fuck, it's a clown world all over

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u/Rdichols 16d ago

My biggest question that I’ve yet to get or find an answer to is where all this savings is going to go? Are my taxes going down? Are we getting refunds? If we are saving so much money that means they need less right? 

But maybe I’ve miss d the answering in between all the other shit. 

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u/Willtology 16d ago

It's huge on my brother's list. He lives in a remote Alaskan village with less than 600 people. Fucker is convinced trans people are gobbling up all the state's money and ruining his life. I used to think he was one of the sharper people I knew. Now I wonder how he gets his crocs on in the morning.

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u/femptocrisis 16d ago

yeah and the only reason they actually like elon is because he made some "based" shitposts in 2023 about trans ppl that they agree with. they didn't give a shit about him when he was the "cool" electric car and spacex billionaire of 2017. so its really just bathrooms and pronouns all the way down for them 🙄

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u/cardiaccat1 16d ago

Minus the fraud just reported about the company he runs but I’m sure they’ll just say that’s fake news

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u/Technical-Row8333 16d ago

so you are say there is a really, really easy way to win elections?

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u/sembias 16d ago

It helps when you have the largest and best funded propaganda apparatus in history backing you up.

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u/SirVanyel 16d ago

Actually exit polls highlight that the only thing conservatives care about is the fact that they are poor and trump promised them they would not be.

It's kinda sad to see an entire country get financially beaten into the floor and then get duped on the recovery, just to be smacked in the mouth again.

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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru 16d ago

The shape of Elon’s body is fraudulent. Trapezoid lookin ass

Cut the “um”s, “ah”s, and “uh”s out of his interviews + weirdo chuckles and all you’re getting is a ketamine word salad of a vague acknowledgment of the question he was asked. I’m always wondering if his lawyers are constantly stressed out or they’re at home with their feet up.

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u/CorsaroNero98 16d ago

Well indottrinated ppl, this is scary. They would be able to defend their cult even if kransov and muskolini were raping their relatives underneath their own eyes

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u/staunch_character 16d ago

It’s bizarre. Like anyone has ever given a fuck about women’s sports.

Oh no! 1 trans person is competing in women’s volleyball in the entire country! Let’s make laws to protect women from 1 SINGLE PERSON!

Let’s also make sure if a 14 year old is raped she is forced to give birth to her rapists baby. 🙏

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u/polchickenpotpie 16d ago

Don't forget that multiple children being shot in school every other month is just a fact of life

But like, 2 trans athletes in the entire state? Good heavens we have to do something about this!

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u/Used_Sort_6444 16d ago

Thank Governor Sweatervest (Youngkin) for that, he really got the ball rolling on that

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u/Dick_Wienerpenis 16d ago

Don't forget that the second after they keep one trans girl out of a sport they turn around and try to fuck over title 9

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u/roamerknight 16d ago

Its actually a common tactic if you think about it. Create a boogyman, brainwash followers to be afraid of boogyman, tell them youll defeat boogyman, profit. The same thing most likely happened in the Salem witch trials

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u/Cloverhart 16d ago

You forgot about the rapists nonchalantly strolling into the women's public restrooms. I mean it's never happened, was always illegal, but still. Boo!

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u/Noddite 15d ago

What's funny here, went to a small college and did stats for sports teams...the women's team used to regularly play against the men's team.

They would certainly get beat, but somehow no one was in fear for their life, and they liked playing against a stronger team to help them grow.

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u/Defiant-Mousse-9611 15d ago

And let's talk about it every single day for another 8 years.

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u/laaggynoob 16d ago

Keep preaching the good word, brother. Wait were you being facetious!? 👺

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u/Technical-Row8333 16d ago

Oh no! 1 trans person is competing in women’s volleyball in the entire country! Let’s make laws to protect women from 1 SINGLE PERSON!

if it's such a small problem, why die on that hill and defend that 1 trans woman ability to play sports with cis women so hard you lose an election? now you can't defend 14yo from rape because of that unpopular position losing us the election.

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u/Super_Pan 16d ago

Sorry, which politicians have died on the hill of defending trans people? It's been nothing but silence from the dems.

Also I'm not sure you're going to unstick the bus from the mud by throwing more and more minorities under it.

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u/OfficeSalamander 16d ago

We’re not dying on this hill. This is entirely something made up. Like if you look at campaign ads for the 2024 election, democratic ones don’t even mention trans people. Like, at all. It’s only GOP ads that do

I think the average democratic voter’s opinion on the situation is basically, “hey, let’s not be a dick to everyone, including trans people” but it is, simply put, not a major issue like it is on the right.

Maybe it’s time to wonder why your media is harping the issue so much while ours barely talks about trans people at all

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u/Technical-Row8333 15d ago edited 15d ago

We’re not dying on this hill. This is entirely something made up. Like if you look at campaign ads for the 2024 election, democratic ones don’t even mention trans people. Like, at all. It’s only GOP ads that do

but that's literally part of my point. I know that the GOP has spend a decade and billions of dollars on trans issues - that is precisely fucking why it's so fucking important that the Left (it's leaders) come out and say "NO! We don't support that stupid shit!"

it's not enough to be silent when you are being accused of supporting this.

"trans women in women sports" is the singular most unpopular political stand these days. CCN did a poll, an the result was 79% against it. If the Left does not distance themselves from this (and should have done it ten fucking years ago) we will not win elections.

you all replying to me seem to think that I believe this issue is super important from a morality perspective. NO! This shit is fucking irrelevant! And it was irrelevant to elections until the Right spend ten years and billions of dollars painting the Left as wanting these deeply unpopular policies - so now I do care about our position on it. I want us to be against it. We should be the ones passing laws against it, it would turn everything around.

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u/Technical-Row8333 16d ago

Right wing: Oh no! 1 trans person is competing in women’s volleyball in the entire country! Let’s make laws to protect women from 1 SINGLE PERSON!

centrists: that... is not exactly the best use of time. yeah, it's not great that someone born as a man wins a tournament, but like, I can't afford rent, eggs, and we have no workers rights

Left wing: NO FUCK YOU, LET THAT TRANS PERSON PLAY SPORTS

centrist: oh... so that's why the Right wing is focusing on this tiny thing. the left wants this and is willing to die on this hill? guess my vote is cast...

Left wing: nooooo why did we lose the election! trans people is such a tinyyyy probleeeeem why did you focus on thaaat.. why would my opponents always talk about this one single opinion we have, an opinion that everyone hates and makes me look so bad? Why would they keep talking about this one subject that makes me lose votes... i will never figure this out!

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u/PG13sHusband 16d ago

grown man writing fanfiction lmao

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u/OfficeSalamander 16d ago

Again, you’re writing fantasy here. Look at the campaign ads for the 2024 election. None of the democratic ones mentioned trans people. This is a right wing fantasy

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u/Technical-Row8333 16d ago

like Harris? yes she was silent on it. Is silence the appropriate response to a whole decade and billions of dollars spent on ads accusing the Left of being pro trans athletes?

reddit is full of people saying: "ahha these dumb right wingers, it's only 10 trans people" - but that's worse right? you get how that is worse? you betrayed the feminists and women that fought for Title IX, for gendered sports, so that women could have representation, for just 10 total trans athletes. You died on the hill of just 10 athletes. You could have win the election so fucking easy if you say "no, we dont support trans athletes, in fact we will beat you to it and ban them ourselves"

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u/OfficeSalamander 16d ago edited 16d ago

but that's worse right? you get how that is worse? you betrayed the feminists and women that fought for Title IX, for gendered sports, so that women could have representation, for just 10 total trans athletes

Bro, we didn't do ANYTHING. Usually these sports leagues did, because herr derr, treating transitioning people as their felt gender is the current medical recommendation, and for most sports it wasn't found to have too much of an impact.

But this was never a policy position espoused by the by the left. Like you keep saying shit like, "this was the hill you were willing to die on" WHO, WHO THE FUCK WAS WILLING TO DIE ON THIS HILL?

You are tilting at windmills man, this is an imaginary battle. While saying, "the left doesn't care about trans people" isn't correct, I would say we want all people treated with dignity, they are a tiny percentage of the population and our policy proposals are more or less not related to them (or at least not their transness) directly. There's the occasional exception, but it's pretty rare in comparison to broad policy proposals.

You are in a right wing bubble where there's some massive trans thing on the left, but I'm telling you man, as a politically active left leaner for 20+ years, it's not a fucking thing. If you look at consumption of trans-related content, it is BY FAR the right that is the biggest consumer, not the left, and not even trans people themselves. You guys are in a fucking full on moral panic over trans people, and we on the left are just going, "maybe stop worrying about people's genitals for fucking once? Who the fuck cares, sports will do what sports do"

Here's the chart about media consumption re trans content:

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2020_30/3398303/200720-facebook-trans-issues-2-se-1108a.jpg

As you can see, right-wingers are VASTLY more likely to engage with trans content, it gets clicks, basically, so it is amplified in your spaces because people want clicks, as those are the currency of the internet, but the left? We're really not talking about trans people that much, except when we're doing what I am doing here, which is engaging with a right winger who for some reason thinks this is some massive push on our part. Like I would say we're broadly supportive of trans people, but it's really not a major issue in our spaces

"no, we dont support trans athletes, in fact we will beat you to it and ban them ourselves"

It's not our fucking lane????? The sports can fucking decide themselves for God's sake, why the fuck do YOU care SO MUCH about women's sports for this one and specific singular issue. Fuck, why do you care about sports AT ALL compared to actual economics and other politically important shit? I care VASTLY more about 20% tariffs being implemented and attempts to try to coerce Canada and other allies and other economic and political fuckery than I do fucking athletes.

I could give two shits about sports in relation to politics. Literally two shits. It is a complete and utter non-issue to me. Let trans athletes play, let them not play - I literally do not care one teeny tiny iota of concern. I leave it up to the sports, whatever they decide is just is fine by me. Some sport says that being trans has a material effect on their sport and trans athletes need to be banned? Ok, fine. Another sport says being trans doesn't affect their sport at all, and trans athletes are free to join? Ok, also fine by me

Why has it gotten YOU in such a tizzy, is the question.

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u/Technical-Row8333 15d ago edited 15d ago

But this was never a policy position espoused by the by the left. Like you keep saying shit like, "this was the hill you were willing to die on" WHO, WHO THE FUCK WAS WILLING TO DIE ON THIS HILL?

...the majority of reddit of one. Many Leftist social media/youtuber/twitter/tumblr people. Kamala Harris sure was silent about it - which isn't enough she should have spoke out against it - and even her silence was heavily criticized by people on the left.

You are in a right wing bubble

I literally only use the reddit frontpage, which is full of trans support? it's more left than Kamala?

I literally grew up in europe, where we have Communist and Socialist parties? what I consider center is so much more to the left than in America.

I'm not on fox news, or breirtbart or /r/conservative or whatever the fuck

just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am in a right wing bubble.

where there's some massive trans thing on the left, but I'm telling you man, as a politically active left leaner for 20+ years, it's not a fucking thing. If you look at consumption of trans-related content, it is BY FAR the right that is the biggest consumer, not the left, and not even trans people themselves. You guys are in a fucking full on moral panic over trans people, and we on the left are just going, "maybe stop worrying about people's genitals for fucking once? Who the fuck cares, sports will do what sports do"

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2020_30/3398303/200720-facebook-trans-issues-2-se-1108a.jpg

It's not our fucking lane????? The sports can fucking decide themselves for God's sake, why the fuck do YOU care SO MUCH about women's sports for this one and specific singular issue. Fuck, why do you care about sports AT ALL compared to actual economics and other politically important shit? I care VASTLY more about 20% tariffs being implemented and attempts to try to coerce Canada and other allies and other economic and political fuckery than I do fucking athletes.

was my point ever that the Left engages more on trans issues than the Right? if yes, then I mispoke. I am very, very well aware that the Right has spent an entire decade and billions of dollars talking about trans people. In fact, that is a crucial part of my argument. The Right has campaign on this over and over again why? Because it makes the Left look bad. Why does it make the Left look bad? Because the Left has two groups of people: those that are silent about trans people, and those that are in support. So their propaganda works. The Left never denies the propaganda! Either Kamala was scared of losing the far left, the tumblr colored-hair people, or afraid of being cancelled, regardless of what the motivation was, she was silent on trans issues.

I agree with you , we are aligned that it is so, so much fucking important to care about not being at war, not electing a nazi, not electing a dictator, ... and guess what? It is so important to not lose the election, that I find it really fucking stupid that the people on the left up until now still refuse to say the words "I don't want trans women in women sports." Say it. You say it and prove me wrong! Because since the election I have had this debate over and over again with other leftists, and they refuse to say it, in fact most of them support allowing trans women in women's sports!

Trans women in women sports is a deeply unpopular position. CCN did a anonymous poll and 79% of people were against it!!! That is what I mean by the Left died on this hill. You cannot find a Leftist in a position of authority that will speak against this, that will pass a law to end this DECADE LONG DEBATE, even though almost everyone hates this shit - because the Left political climate is such that you get cancelled if you say anything that when seen with no nuance appears to be transphobic, but it's not - playing sports in a gendered league instead of an open league is not a right, it's not speech, it's not life.. Over 10 fucking years of the Right shouting from the rooftops that this is what we the Left want, and our leaders never say "NO!"

I could give two shits about sports in relation to politics. Literally two shits. It is a complete and utter non-issue to me.

So did I!! But then we got hit with years of attacks about it, so I do give a shit about our position on the matter, because it LOSES US FUCKING ELECTIONS

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u/KingKrmit 16d ago

Are u autistic

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u/BeefStewInACan 16d ago

More children have measles in Texas than there are trans athletes in college sports in the nation. But here we are. Arguing culture wars bullshit as children die. What a country we have

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u/worried_consumer 16d ago

Eggs were the real sticking point, but now my eggs and costs about as much as my drugs, go figure

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u/f7f7z 16d ago

The Tesla doesn't have a trans, so that checks out.

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u/No-Comfortable-3938 16d ago

Despite its dominance in advertising. Voters actually didn’t give a shit about it at all.

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u/Bearwynn 16d ago

Manufactured consent

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u/silentrawr #1 Dad bod 16d ago

And egg prices!

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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru 16d ago

Gotta pass those “no acting like animals in schools” bill. Y’know from the JRE podcast rumor. Fuck a school shooting, we gotta get these Tesla stocks back up and checks notes detain British people on vacation? Ayy but those Tesla stocks about to bounce back

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u/Hello-Avrammm 15d ago

And there’s only like 2 of them

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u/StarryOrganism 15d ago

yeah come on gov, leave me and the other trans person alone

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u/SirGlass 13d ago

I mean the 7-8 trans people in college sports is apparently a major issue that basically overshadoweds everything else.

Like I mean no one watches or cared about womens volleyball, until some suspected trans person stepped onto the Court.

Now it's the biggest issue in the world overshadowing all other issues in the usa

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u/bdvfgvvcffc 16d ago

Voting should be a privilege not a right. An uneducated voter is a dangerous voter.

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u/S0LO_Bot 16d ago

I understand what you are getting at… but historically that has been used to restrict voting access to people of color.

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u/angel-of-disease 16d ago

Who decides who gets to vote?

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u/MethodMan_ 16d ago

This is why Gavin Newsom decided to talk about trans women in sports just now.

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u/Sir_thinksalot 16d ago

And that got him all of jack shit.

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u/borderlineidiot 16d ago

Oh steady on, and brown folk

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u/zxc123zxc123 16d ago

The voters only "care" about trans people.

And yet trans people are still here.

They care about egg prices too! Even though those are even more expensive now.

Reducing the national debt. Even though the national debt keeps climbing.

a-And ending the Ukraine war in 24 hours! Even though it's over 24 days and Trump's only ended decades of worth of US international trust and good will.

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u/joebones681 16d ago

I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. They also care about egg prices and gas prices.

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u/Even-Macaroon-1661 16d ago

They’re playing sports

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u/Elmer_Fudd01 16d ago

But it's (D)iferent

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u/CJon0428 16d ago

You misspelled the word different.

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u/awww_yeah_sunnyd 16d ago

They always send their best.

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u/Elmer_Fudd01 16d ago

Shocker! Re read the whole thing but mine sarcastically. And don't make shit up that I'm "switching".

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u/jmastaock 16d ago

Your comment is brain rot manifest

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u/JoJackthewonderskunk 16d ago

Good lord just complete and total lack of awareness that this is referring too you.

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u/ChaoticGoodSamaritan 16d ago

It's always been projection. Always. Reddit can be annoyingly left quite a bit but they've been correct the whole time with the "every accusation is a confession" statement.

Republicans cried about tyrannical government because.... They wanted the tryannical government to be "their team." They will only realize how bad they've fucked up once it actually affects them, but instead of ever admitting they were wrong, they'll continue blaming "radical leftists."

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u/Elmer_Fudd01 16d ago

Total lack of awareness that it was sarcasm

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u/Elmer_Fudd01 16d ago

Hahahaha! Keep showing me you get it.