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u/serenwipiti Feb 21 '25
“no pressure or anything…”
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u/nothankyouma Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
Imagine having to drive down that road during a miscarriage.
Edit: Since we have so many experts on not only miscarriages, human behavior during trauma and art I thought I’d give you some insight into me and my comment. I had a miscarriage, it was not a sudden there’s blood miscarriage. It was a we can’t find a heartbeat miscarriage. The kind where you go back for bloodwork everyday and after a few days they tell you what you already knew. The baby is dead. Now it’s time to go home and wait to miscarry. I never did, my body did not reject the dead baby. I walked around for three and a half weeks (basically Thanksgiving until Christmas) knowing my planned, loved baby was dead INSIDE ME. Doctors appointments multiple times a week to make sure I wasn’t septic. My insurance didn’t want to pay for the procedure unless absolutely necessary. They did eventually pay and I would have the DNC. This was in NJ in 2010. I never suggested they remove it the statues. Quite frankly the women in this part of the world have larger problems to deal with. I was just making an observation isn’t that what arts all about? How we the individual interpret it?
Edit 2: Thank you everyone for the awards and kind words. I was lucky and still am to live in a state where I have access to mediocre medical care. Our thoughts and actions should now turn to the women stuck in states where they don’t and are going through the same type thing.
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u/serenwipiti Feb 21 '25
Man, I am so sorry you went through that experience.
Thank you for taking the time and energy to write that out.
I hope it helps at least one person expand the way they think about the effects that political/economic systems and culture can have on a woman’s reproductive and mental health.
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u/nothankyouma Feb 22 '25
It really has helped. Thank you for telling me. Miscarriages are so common yet we still talk about them in secret like it’s shameful. That needs to change. The illiteracy about your own body needs to change. A woman told me I’ve actually had one I wasn’t critiquing the art, that really disappointed me. Hoe can you know so little about your own body? I have the flu so I’m probably rambling but thank you again.
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u/il-Ganna Feb 21 '25
Can’t believe people are so out of touch you felt the need to explain yourself/justify your answer. This installation is not only obnoxiously insensitive but frankly with no taste or aesthetic value whatsoever. Either way, i’m sorry you had to go through that horrible experience, even just reading felt devastating - can’t imagine being in your shoes. I’m glad at least you made it through, and hope you are now in a better place.
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u/nothankyouma Feb 21 '25
I appreciate your empathy, sincerely. Currently I am in bed with the flu my (usually) healthy son gave me. Thankfully he’s better and old enough now to help take care of me a little. I do get a little sad on the anniversary of the DNC. So many mixed emotions on that day so close to Christmas. I have an amazing son and really thats all that matters in the end.
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u/Gwifitz Feb 21 '25
How can someone read this and still not support free healthcare?!
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u/Greezedlightning Feb 21 '25
My condolences to you on your very painful experience, dear sis. 💐 You are right — that art could be so hard for a woman in your shoes to see. And how noble of you to comment that it’s art so they needn’t take it down but we’re all going to have different responses to it.
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u/Fner Feb 21 '25
That was my first thought as well. It's a very cool project but fundamentally tone deaf.
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u/Itscatpicstime Feb 22 '25
That was my immediate second thought. First thought was “what amazing artwork,” second thought was “this would be like twisting the knife if you were having a miscarriage”
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u/Flimsy-Example97 Feb 24 '25
My sister went through the same. Saw how tough it was on here. I'm sorry!
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u/lemonlime45 Feb 25 '25
When I was pregnant, I went to the hospital for my first ultrasound. While in the waiting room I I doubled over with the worst pain of my life and couldn't stand. I started to pass out. They soon determined that I was in the middle of a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. They weren't sure if it was ectopic or molar- as all they could see on ultrasound was "snow" . So they whisked me into emergency surgery, where I had both a laparotomy, fallopian tube removal and a DNC, as well as a blood transfusion to save my life . I spent the night in the maternity ward with my abdominal incision on fire. In the next room, I could hear the sounds of a baby being born and a happy family . I just laid there in the dark and cried. The next morning, the surgeon confirmed the rupture, which I think had started the day before my ultrasound, but didn't fully rupture until the next day. About a month later I got a bill from the hospital for $5000, at a time when I had nothing. At least insurance covered the other $20,000, I guess. The doctor told me I was in the right place at the right time, so I guess there is that too.
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u/beanababy Feb 26 '25
I'm sitting at work crying reading your story. I am so so sorry that you went through that. I cannot imagine the pain you must have felt. and still feel. thank you, for being strong enough to share your story. and for responding with such grace to the negativity. if i had an award to give, it would be yours ma'am. <3
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u/bimbles_ap Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
This look incredibly CGI, or is that just me?
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u/Hillenmane Feb 21 '25
There is a Wikipedia Article that discusses this piece. There are old news articles that discuss it also. It looks like CGI but this is just another one of those random things that unbelievably rich middle-eastern princelings spit money at I guess.
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u/chitownbears Feb 21 '25
I mean the whole world could be that beautiful and interesting if humanity could get it's shit together. I personally think it looks great but I understand the sentiment.
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u/Hillenmane Feb 21 '25
I agree with you. It has to start somewhere though. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Gates each, individually, could strike pen to paper and provide nearly the entire world with clean water, and together could solve world hunger.
I do internet installs for people who make more money in a month than I make in a year, standing out in the cold, splicing fiber with numb hands turning purple while they literally just get paid to use a webcam in their home office.
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u/That_kid_from_Up Feb 21 '25
The existence of single people who could solve the world's existential crises is the reason those crises exist
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u/kitkanz Feb 21 '25
But have you considered how that might hurt their profits? /s
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u/kindnesd99 Feb 21 '25
I am totally for the notion that we should tax the rich more (or eat them, if you will).
But do we really still believe, in this age, that you can sign a paper that throws a lot of money in and world hunger is solved?
There is a reason why years of international aids ain't working in the poorest parts of the world. If we throw in a billion dollars, you need an organisation to manage it. You need to work with the local authorities. You need to go through several levels before the money finally gets converted into something useful for those who really need that aid. In the process, you have corrupt people taking a bit of it here and there, and find ways to take more. You have warlords pocketing the money to seize control of territories so they can pocket more.
I am not saying that having the rich throw in their wealth is a bad idea. It surely brings in net benefits. I am just saying it is more complicated than people like us (who live in first world cities with decent institutions, yet still with corrupt cases here and there) can imagine
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u/Lots42 Feb 21 '25
IIRC, Elon rambled nonsense that if he got a plan to solve world hunger he'd do it, the experts gave him that plan and of course Elon refused and ran off to do more Ketamine.
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u/Hillenmane Feb 21 '25
I know, as I wrote my previous comment I mused that even if they did, parasites like them further down the food chain would ultimately siphon most of it into their own coffers. It could still be done though, it would just take time. “Stroke of the pen” was more for effect; you got the gist of what I was trying to say though.
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u/duncanidaho61 Feb 21 '25
Best book about wealth i ever read is “The Richest Man in Babylon”. You have to start at the grass roots. Teach common people how to earn wealth even by the tiniest increments. Break the cycle of corruption and poverty from the bottom up. Otherwise, you are right all that money will end up wasted or in the pockets of the ruling elite, like all the billions before it.
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u/VulcanHobo Feb 21 '25
There's a lot of western mockery of arab sheikhs and their lavish lifestyle and absurdly extravagant toys. But arab sheikhs also invest a lot into their own societies and build a lot of stuff that their societies benefit from.
I dont see that same level of investment back into society from western oligarchs.
I dont condone any of this absurd wealth, and think its all disgusting. But one must ask oneself if there is true investmenr back into the society that affects the average person. And i dont see that at all from western oligarchs lile musk, zuckerberg, and bezos
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u/deepsighsx Feb 21 '25
You actually on point about this. Anything that has a Sheikhs name on it automatically they make sure it's best in class because it basically comes back to them and the family name. I've seen it first hand and honestly most people just want to crap on certain countries while being jealous internally.
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u/Valuable-Lie-5853 Feb 21 '25
Let’s not think for a second Qatar is a place we should look to as a model of humanity. Just because the art looks great to you, their values are not wholesome and sweet. The mother of that growing child…she’s simply a vessel.
“Human Rights Watch documented how Qatari laws, regulations, and practices impose discriminatory male guardianship rules on women and harm women’s abilities to make autonomous decisions about their lives and their rights. Women in Qatar must obtain permission from their male guardians to marry, pursue higher education on government scholarships, work in many government jobs, travel abroad until certain ages, and receive some forms of reproductive health care.”
If an unmarried woman is sexually violated and the authorities don’t believe her story, SHE can be prosecuted. And if she is pregnant she can’t receive healthcare because you have to have a marriage certificate to access those services.
And this just scratches the surface. Look into who they treat migrant workers, sexual orientation & gender identity, freedom of expression. I wouldn’t want my world to look anything like Qatar.
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u/thismightbemymain Feb 21 '25
It's real, I lived in Qatar for a while.
They are Damien Hirst sculptures outside of Sidra Hospital.
For the longest time they were covered up, though, I'm not sure why. Its good to see they've been unveiled again
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u/janquadrentvincent Feb 21 '25
It's kinda... Graphic? I guess? For a conservative, middle eastern country. Like sure, it's literally what everyone has gone through but it seems kinda explicit and private and intimate. So I guess I'm just surprised a uterus is in bronze for all to see.
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u/Nadzzy Feb 21 '25
It's real.
Edit: love the downvote, here's to denying reality mystery downvoter: https://youtu.be/ByNmwzo-fOs?si=QDtmy69xLpb9OUhI
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u/KaneStiles Feb 21 '25
You speak the truth, yet a majority of people don't believe you. Congratulations you have found a awesome thing to post here. Don't let the fools discourage your time.
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u/Then-Clue6938 Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
Not enough bird poop weather support structure and water/rain + air pollution stain (even if it's pretty new)
Edit: dxdatabase just showed me that it's actually really! Guess they don't have many birds there or a good cleaning crew but I was so wrong.
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u/Then-Clue6938 Feb 21 '25
Holy shit it's real! Sorry my mistake and thank you for the correction. Pretty cool tho.
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u/sordidcreature Feb 21 '25
it's real lol, i used to pass these every day on the bus to school when i still lived there
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u/TeddyIsHereIRL Feb 21 '25
From dinosaur to xenomorph to human lol
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u/WhiteN0isee Feb 21 '25
I was so confused at first. My thought process was “oh it’s for dinosaurs…nevermind, xenomorphs? Oh, it’s human. Wow I didn’t get enough sex education.” Lol
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u/Nadzzy Feb 21 '25
For anyone wondering, yes it's real: https://youtu.be/ByNmwzo-fOs?si=i6kwm06MGR_9yKx8
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u/Fireproofspider Feb 21 '25
I don't understand people that say it's not real. Haven't they seen statues before?
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u/Glutenfree_Bitchslap Feb 21 '25
I think it's just the lighting and angles in this specific video. It does look a little more surreal here than in the other videos I've seen
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u/NightGlimmer82 Feb 21 '25
And also just how strange it is. I think a lot of people recognize the cost and labor that would go into it then add in how weird it is so it seems like it would be difficult to get funding for such a strange project.
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u/Chalky_Pockets Feb 21 '25
I think it's healthy and forward thinking for us to try to decouple the idea that seeing a video of a thing is evidence of that thing actually being real as much as possible going forward.
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u/ToohotmaGandhi Feb 21 '25
It's fair to question everything these days, to be honest. So many things are faked for views. Luckily, it's easy to verify and find out most of the time.
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u/bl0odredsandman Feb 21 '25
Honestly, some things can look fake. I'm one of those can can usually tell when something is fake, but this video, due to the lighting, steady camera speed, and slow panning makes it look like it could be fake. I know it's not, but this is just one of those videos that can be mistaken for being fake.
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u/usumoio Feb 21 '25
It's wild what you can build when you don't have to pay anything for labor.
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u/Flashy-Sir-2970 Feb 21 '25
i mean it is incredible how much cheaper is it to produce with illegal migrant labor barely paid and forgotten
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It’s real.
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u/Nadzzy Feb 21 '25
Sure is! I shared this video with people asking and got downvoted: https://youtu.be/ByNmwzo-fOs?si=QDtmy69xLpb9OUhI
People are strange.
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u/RiotingMoon Feb 21 '25
that looks fake and creepy equally
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u/NightGlimmer82 Feb 21 '25
Yes, I was just going to say, this looks creepy af. I would have been none too pleased to see this on my way to give birth ether time. It’s real weird if I’m honest.
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u/Nadzzy Feb 21 '25
Creepy...perhaps. But real.
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u/everydayANDNeveryway Feb 21 '25
For sure. Creepy and real that we all started as a swimming squiggly thing from dad that pushed its way into a round egg from mom.
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u/smoothiefruit Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
ooh I like the last one where the fetus is *krumping
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u/ErstwhileAdranos Feb 21 '25
So tired of the AI hysteria and everyone believing that everything around them is AI. It’s a Damien freakin’ Hirst sculpture, people, c’mon! It’s been covered by major intentional news outlets, it’s got a Wikipedia page. What more do you people need, a free trip to Qatar?!
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u/Zornamental Feb 21 '25
Anyone else find these terrifying? Giant baby gives me the creeps.
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u/myxoma1 Feb 21 '25
Man that Zygote gets me every time, it looks kind of like it's going to be a baby platypus, then goes PSYCHE!! .. fooled ya, yeah it's a human.
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u/Whereishumhum- Feb 21 '25
The first couple installments look like something straight out of Giger's mind
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u/Beginning-Reality-57 Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think whether or not they should
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u/ErenKruger711 Feb 21 '25
Why stop at the baby. We haven’t gotten to the part where it pays taxes
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u/Respectfuleast819 Feb 23 '25
There are no taxes in Qatar. (Just a flat corporate tax for companies)
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u/KaylaAllegra Feb 21 '25
This is actually cool as hell??? Speaking as someone who will never be having kids, because hell naw. But the artistry and feats of architecture are extremely cool.
Also cool is the fact that it gets the anatomy so correct, with the ovaries folded in against the uterus like it is in the body. They're usually depicted folded out to the side in most reconstructions online. The detailed veins in the endometrium and texture of the placenta and vaginal walls. It's lit 🔥
(I'm gonna cry if this was built on unethical means tho, because damn. And I really hope Qatar is cool about women's bodily autonomy...)
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u/LittleMissQueef Feb 21 '25
Sadly, I don't think women in Qatar do have reproductive rights or bodily autonomy. They have to refer to their male guardian for permission to work, to go to university, to have a child or be married etc.
These statues are very beautiful taken at face value but the fact each piece exists without the womb or body in which they are carried speaks volumes.
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u/Ok_Librarian4894 Feb 21 '25
Try reading a book before you speak on behalf of an entire group of women. I've lived in Qatar close to my whole life and there is no barrier for a woman to apply to university or a job. How would that even work administratively, do you think there's a box to get checked off by your father? And how on Earth would you go about "getting permission" to have a child? There are different cultural values surrounding marriage rites but regardless you should be able to use your God-given brain before spouting out orientalist nonsense in an effort to seem nuanced.
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u/atad123 Feb 21 '25
Lmao butturt at the truth much?? That comment is largely true.
More documentation, but I'm sure you'll call this western propaganda
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u/And_Justice Feb 21 '25
Shall we NOT shill Qatar?
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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 Feb 21 '25
Shall we just look at some interesting art and discuss it? Does it matter where it is?
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u/Comfortable-Tune3164 Feb 21 '25
as someone that drives by this every single week I feel the need to clarify that this video makes it seem kinda bigger than it really is firstly, and secondly the statue is like, IN the hospital besides the building, not just outside by the actual road like this makes it seem
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u/AnInfiniteArc Feb 21 '25
As I watched this, I was thinking “Wow, this seems incredibly opulent and wasteful for a hospital.” Then I re-read the title.
Qatar. Gotcha.
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u/Benchen70 Feb 22 '25
Fuck this dark bs … this is not celebration of birth, more like a lecturing of birth. Yikes!
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u/lgodsey Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
It's hard to see why this exists.
As educational instruction it is facile and limited. As art it fails by just about every metric. As a means to intimidate women? Perhaps. But I can find no benevolent need this is fulfilling.
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u/HesitantInvestor0 Feb 21 '25
Baby looking like it’s ready to get in the pit at a local hardcore show.
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u/Lekerboy-17 Feb 21 '25
I saw the third one and thought, "whoa, are these dinosaurs?" I wish I could say I was high
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u/AliceCaticorn Feb 21 '25
Missed the opportunity to make the last statue the dancing baby from the old internet video.
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u/gurrra Feb 21 '25
The last one looks like a copy of one of the statues from Vigelandspark in Oslo.
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u/muditk Feb 21 '25
Why is there a road to a ward? Habibi, you want wards in your hospital and you want hospitals near people. Its not a football stadium in America - ie surrounded by asphalt.
This road is part of a huge network of roads in front of the hospital, which is just off the Highway. A hospital surrounded by: a second highway, a highway network interchange, a science park, a convention center, an education city nearest of which are branches of 3 American universities, oh and lots of undeveloped land
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u/Alfredthegiraffe20 Feb 21 '25
If you watch it on Google Maps, they've blurred out some of the faces. A privacy issue maybe???????
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u/yogtheterrible Feb 21 '25
Leaving the maternity ward the baby returns to the womb and regresses to an egg.
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u/Dhonagon Feb 21 '25
Mom dad how are baby's made. I guess it's time to take a ride on Maternity Lane.
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u/Lil-Miss-Anthropy Feb 21 '25
This would be so cool at look at while tripping. Too bad you gotta be behind a wheel to see it.
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u/SloppyBuss Feb 21 '25
To that baby looks like it’s finna hit the hardest whip and nae nae since 2013
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u/Comfortable_Move_639 Feb 21 '25
Wow! I have had 8 miscarriages. I totally understand derstand that most women wouldn't be able to handle that, leaving with no baby or even arriving, knowing that no baby was coming home, but it is still beautiful to me. God bless who it hurts. My sincerest condolences.
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u/IrrelevantPuppy Feb 21 '25
Makes me think of the Disease Woman from medieval times. The way male and human anatomy was depicted revered the male anatomy as sacred. But treated the female body like a science experiment. “As you can see here the purpose of the female anatomy is for child rearing, here are the things that can go wrong regarding that”.
In anatomy illustrations men are posed like Roman emperors, maintaining their dignity. Women are splayed out like dissected frogs. Like the baby machines they thought of them as. Like here, some of these look less like a celebration of womanhood and more like a dissected animal.
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u/LegitimateDebate5014 Feb 21 '25
Some artist thought that they should show a couple what the process of a baby is like and they got this
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u/Edugrinch Feb 21 '25
Sidra hospital is amazing. My daughter broke her elbow when she fell from the monkey bars. She had surgery and spent 2 nights in this hospital that is more like a fancy hotel. I was worried because I thought we would have to pay a fortune. We paid (without insurance just with Qatar ID), 200 QAR or 55 USD for everything. The visits to check the healing and remove the steel pins from her elbow were 11 USD.
Now... I am living in Houston... 55 USD is enough to get cough syrup and some vitamins maybe
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