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China strikes back at Trump with 34 percent tariff — bans rare earth exports to the U.S.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/china-strikes-back-on-trump-tariffs-bans-rare-earth-exports-to-the-u-s
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u/koryuken 1d ago edited 1d ago

We are witnessing the fall of Rome in realtime.

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u/MyRealUser 1d ago

And in 100x speed

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u/DrBix 1d ago edited 1d ago

No doubt. These next 1386 days is gonna suck.

edit 1385 days now

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u/SaintRanGee 1d ago

Not that you're counting eh? Also, real question, you think he'll die/leave after that time frame, he already muses about more terms, it that something people take seriously?

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u/yung12gauge 1d ago

he's going to live long enough to try, i guarantee it. mean old bastards like him live forever.

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u/DrBix 1d ago

If my history is correct, It would require a 2/3 vote in congress (not sure senate or house or both). That won't happen, and no, he can't use executive power to grant himself another term.

All that being said, assuming we have a country left, he WILL TRY... unless something unexpected happens.

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u/--IIII--------IIII-- 1d ago edited 1d ago

My understanding (attorney) is that he can use executive power to declare a BS emergency (as he has with the 'border invasion' and TdA gang stuff) and he can use that emergency status to suspend elections.

This wouldn't grant him 'another term', just extend the current one. Because of that, it does not run afoul of the amendment. The amendment says you can't be elected more than twice. If he stays via emergency power use (abuse), then it is not unconstitutional.

Because that emergency status declaration will be an official act, although clearly illegal misuse of the power, he would be immune from prosecution for that act.

My belief is that this is what he will do, and the executive unfortunately has the power to do that.

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u/DrBix 1d ago

That scares me more than anything because it means he's either going to start a war to keep in power or some other bullshit excuse, as you pointed out. And the congress ain't going to do shit unless midterms are really really good.

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u/soldiat 1d ago

Why... why did you put that scenario in my brain...

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u/--IIII--------IIII-- 1d ago

Welcome to my world since the National Emergency Act of 1976 which gave Ford this power.

This outcome was inevitable ever since that day. It has only been the fig leaf of formality preventing a corrupt President from abusing this power until now.

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u/Cersad 1d ago

So when he has all those electronic vote tabulators shipped to DC before they're used in elections, that won't have anything to do with the surprising wave of Congressional Republicans winning improbable races and surging to a two-thirds majority.

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u/kjm6351 1d ago

More and more us are praying for the first outcome to come soon every day

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u/mothtoalamp 1d ago

He's already survived multiple attempts on his life, from elderly with COVID to a literal gunman. Doesn't matter if he has dementia (which he probably does) and is massively unhealthy (which he definitely is) - karma isn't getting this guy for us. We're stuck with this.

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u/Jazzlike_Pineapple87 1d ago

Americans don't really need to wait that long.

Something something tyrannical government.

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u/drekmonger 1d ago

The next 20 years will suck. That's how long it's going to take to rebuild the institutions and trust they are smashing.

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u/lunagirlmagic 23h ago

Huh, I think of it the opposite way. U.S. will have another 20 years or so of economic dominance and global hegemony. From there it will get much worse

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u/avatar8900 1d ago

Speed run any %

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u/bobby_hills_fruitpie 1d ago

Leave it to Trump to bankrupt the biggest casino ever known.

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u/crackanape 1d ago

The US really was an incredible money machine that siphoned surpluses away from everywhere else on earth.

No more.

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u/RJ815 1d ago

7th time is the charm! Lucky 7!

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u/Nerupe 1d ago

You're not Rome, you're the Spanish Empire. Abandoned by all its allies and left to sink into irrelevance as the world moves on after having enough of it.

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u/kbroaster 1d ago

The collapse of the Western Roman Empire, often referred to as the fall of Rome, was a gradual process rather than a single event. Justinian essentially sealed it with the Gothic Wars. But it was dependent on geography, etc...so, Justinian would be a much better analog, imo.

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u/Carry-the_fire 1d ago

So was the collapse of the USSR and all the Chinese dynasties. The fall of a civilization is practically never a single event.

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u/Bosco215 1d ago

The Chinese dynastic cycle is fascinating. Almost every dynasty followed the same path.

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u/mOjzilla 1d ago

Current empire is the whole planet not just any single country, given the speed with which we connect with each other. We are no longer information, transportation locked. Earlier days multiple empires would strive in parallel in real time because their scale was geographically contained.

Now whether we like it all not we already are a whole single entity, if a country fails somewhere everyone suffers in one way or other.

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u/ravenpotter3 1d ago

All before our 250th birthday

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u/Troubleshooter11 1d ago

motherflipping Caligula is in charge atm.

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u/nutcrackr 1d ago

I often wonder if that's true. My gut feeling is that US will come to some sense in 4 years and slowly rebuild all these broken decisions but it will probably take 20 years to get back to how it was. Things aren't going to be great for a while though.

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u/Imaginary_Grass9674 1d ago

before GTA 6

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u/mOjzilla 1d ago

All tarrifs lead to Rome :)

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u/bluew200 21h ago

Its with wifi tho

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u/mordom 1d ago

The US is nothing like Rome. Rome survived many crises for a period of 1000 years and recovered, and was an absolute world power for about 600 years of it. The US has been relevant only in the last 200 years, becoming a world power only after world war 2.

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u/thepinkyclone 1d ago

"Rome empire sucha great city, huge city and look how it felt. Someone would say it was bigest fall ever. I know we will fall even bigest. And people come to me and ask who felt the bigest. And I will say it's America, bigest it's greatest country in world, no one can do what I could do" - probably Trump

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u/darkcatpirate 11h ago

Make angry calls to all businesses that supported the Republicans, make angry calls to every Republican member, write angry letters to every Republican member, angrily protest at every rally, town hall, fundraiser, campaign event, public appearance, and any other gathering Republicans attend, spam propaganda against every Republican member on every social media platform and question the intelligence and integrity of every Republican member.

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u/acraswell 1d ago

Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure can burn in one.