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China strikes back at Trump with 34 percent tariff — bans rare earth exports to the U.S.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/china-strikes-back-on-trump-tariffs-bans-rare-earth-exports-to-the-u-s
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u/TaterThieff 1d ago

If you voted for this, fuck you.

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u/mrjackspade 1d ago

If you didn't vote at all, fuck you.

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u/Meadhead81 1d ago

If you protest voted, fuck you.

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u/quartzguy 1d ago

The people who didn't vote or voted for Trump because of Palestine are on the second to last rung, right above the outright racists and misogynists. Tricked into thinking that Donald is less anti-Palestinian than Kamala.

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u/crackanape 1d ago

The people who didn't vote or voted for Trump because of Palestine are on the second to last rung

They are massive suckers who fucked themselves and the Palestinians, and anyone with a brain could see it coming.

STILL... We live in a world with many dummies, that's a fact of life. The Democrats could have been smart enough to throw them a bone and avoided this.

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u/FLTA 1d ago

The Democrats could have been smart enough to throw them a bone and avoided this.

They did and much more while needing to counterbalance the larger population of Americans who support Israel.

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u/crackanape 1d ago edited 8h ago

Israel has been underwater with Americans identifying as Democrats since 2017.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx

Edit: Love how I'm downvoted for publishing a link to charts from the opinion poller saying exactly what I did.

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u/FLTA 1d ago

And Palestine is even less popular overall per your source

Although Americans remain more likely to say their sympathies in the Middle East situation are with the Israelis rather than the Palestinians, the 46% expressing support for Israel is the lowest in 25 years of Gallup’s annual tracking of this measure on its World Affairs survey. The previous 51% low point in this trend of Americans’ sympathy for Israelis was recorded both last year and in 2001.

At the same time, the 33% of U.S. adults who now say they sympathize with the Palestinians is up six percentage points from last year and the highest reading by two points.

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u/crackanape 1d ago

Yes, I can read too. I am talking about how effective it is at getting Democrats to show up at the polls.

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u/drzerovector 1d ago

Yeah, we all know it, we all know what kind of trash Trump is, but if we voted, Dems would never learn a lesson from it. This is the cost this country has to pay

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u/sleepy_vixen 1d ago edited 1d ago

"340 million+ people have to pay to prove a point over 5.1 million people" isn't the stellar moral or political argument you think it is.

And what lessons have Dems learned? You know, besides proving that left wing voters are unreliable and a waste of time trying to court? If it wasn't Palestine, it would've been some other issue as an excuse not to vote, I guarantee it.

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u/DinosaurDikmeat01 1d ago

If you aren’t out protesting daily, fuck you

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u/1900grs 1d ago

They already said, "If you voted for this".

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u/SerArthurRamShackle 1d ago

I'm not an American, so I might be wrong about this, but couldn't a protest vote be against the Democrats rather than for the Republicans? Someone could have voted third party in protest to the Democrats but not have voted for this.

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u/Arthur_YouDumbass 1d ago

3rd party candidates in the US have close to non-existint chance of winning, to the point it is hard to interpret the votes they get any way other than being protest-votes

Everyone has the right to vote how they wish. I just genuinely wonder how this group of voters feel today about their decision, and whether they would vote differently if they could go back in time.

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u/1900grs 1d ago

The U.S. currently has two major parties. A protest vote against one major party is essentially a vote for the other major party.

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u/MRoad 1d ago

It's more like half of one. Sure, you're not voting for one side, but you're not voting for the other side either. It's -1 Democrat/+0 Republican as opposed to -1/+1

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 1d ago

That makes no logical nor arithmetical sense

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u/1900grs 1d ago

That makes no logical nor arithmetical sense

It does and it's not complicated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting

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u/crackanape 1d ago

It does because unlike almost all functioning democracies, the USA has a system where only two parties can effectively exist. Whatever you do in an election (vote for A, vote for B, vote for C, stay home) helps either A or B, no other possibility.

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 1d ago

Don’t try to frame it in a logical way it will only highlight how wrong you are.

According to your « logic » If I vote for C, then I help A since I don’t help B. But I also help B since I don’t help A. So I help both A and B in equal fashion.

Conclusion: you are full of shit

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u/crackanape 1d ago

If you vote for C you are not voting for whichever you would otherwise have voted for, A or B, despite you being a sufficiently motivated voter to show up. So it's taken a vote away from them. It will never get C into office.

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u/evasive_dendrite 1d ago

It doesn't make a difference. If you vote third party in the US, you might as well not vote at all, which means that you're saying "I'm okay with whoever wins".

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 1d ago

Welcome to democracy

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u/evasive_dendrite 1d ago edited 1d ago

Democracy my ass. The US presidency is in a stranglehold by two parties that most people don't identify with. The entire office of president needs to be gutted, and the abysmal overrepresentation of small states in the senate too. Only then will I call it a democracy.

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u/Jeovah_Attorney 1d ago

Hey you guys are definitely not the best but you are still a democracy. You just need to do better lol

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u/Chezni19 1d ago

yes, they didn't specify who the "Protest Vote" is for but I assume they meant R

but truly, I cannot say with certainty

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u/bpostal 1d ago

Someone could have voted third party in protest to the Democrats but not have voted for this.

I voted third party in 2016 and again in 2020. Didn't bother voting in 2024 because anything other than a vote for the democratic nominee, who didn't even bother with a primary, was a 'wasted vote'.

Democrats need to wake up to the reality that there's a large subsection of the American people who are angry about the direction of the United States for a multitude of reasons. None of which were acknowledged by Harris. For the last decade their rallying cry was 'At least we're not Trump'.

Fuck 'em, fuck us, and best of luck to everyone who put faith in our ability to be the leader of the free world when the warning signs of the downfall of American hegemony were flashing.

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u/sammy-cakes 1d ago

I agree. I think the real problem is income inequality, where we need to get back to taxing highest income bracket like 75% at least and use that to pay off debt and support those at the bottom. But Harris just mentioned she'd let the highest bracket move from 37.5 to 39%. And Chuck Shumer represents wall street. So that was disappointing.

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u/bpostal 23h ago

There's definitely a massive disparity between the haves, the have nots, and the have it alls. As long as money thst is thrown at our elected officials is counted as protected speech, the average American is just along for the ride.

Democrats and Republicans have both had chances to do something about that. Some politicians have made an effort, but neither parties have actually committed.

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u/ameriCANCERvative 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you motorboated, nice! You old sailor, you!

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u/drzerovector 1d ago

I m not regretting, bro, dems need to learn a lesson, even the cost is a bit high. The entire society needs it

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u/MenosElLso 1d ago

Lmao. Well then, you’re dumb as hell. Trump is going to destroy democracy. This is not an ideological difference that will revert at the end of his term. You helped install a king and now we’re all going to pay because of your little temper tantrum. You’re no better than MAGA.

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u/HNL2BOS 1d ago

I think the people who didn't vote deserve the much bigger fuck you.

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u/ElbowSkinCellarWall 1d ago

But the biggest F.U. should be reserved for those who voted for this shit.

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u/DonutsMcKenzie 1d ago

People who didn't vote essentially did vote for this. They made a choice last November to be part of the problem instead of part of the solution. It wasn't a hard choice to vote against Trump.

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u/PepeSylvia11 1d ago

Beautiful way of phrasing that.

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u/PepeSylvia11 1d ago

Nonvoters did vote for this shit. A nonvote is a vote of support for whichever party wins the election.

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u/HNL2BOS 1d ago

Disagree, they were at least voting for something. Anyone that sat on the sidelines knowing what was coming but didn't vote for some asinine purity test or not compromising to prevent this is 100x worse.

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u/evasive_dendrite 1d ago

That's an insane take. I also blame the non-voters, but to say they're more guilty than those who came off their asses and actively worked to make this shit happen doesn't make any sense. They are definitely not less guilty than the non-voters. If anything they're worse.

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u/nextzero182 1d ago

For real, reminds me of that stupid "vote or die" P Diddy movement. Like would you honestly rather me go out and vote Trump than not vote? When people talk about the importance of voting, they're talking about the importance of voting for THEIR canidate.

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u/ameriCANCERvative 1d ago edited 1d ago

Boo. They’re the most to blame. If you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, please stay home.

Voting in and of itself is not a fucking virtue and it’s a large part of why we’re so fucked up as a nation right now. Dumb, uninformed dipshits think they have something intelligent to add, but they don’t. They don’t even do their homework in the slightest.

We’d be better off if voting while patently and blatantly uninformed was discouraged. “Vote or die”? Fuck off. Civic duty my ass.

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u/PepeSylvia11 1d ago

I see the internal anger of a nonvoter is showing. Thanks for directly contributing to the shit we're in.

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u/ameriCANCERvative 1d ago edited 1d ago

Whatever the fuck kind of sensor you have is clearly out of whack. You bet your ass I voted.

The point is that it’s not a fucking virtue to vote for a guy who fucking led a coup attempt based on a mountain of lies. I’d rather your dumb ass just stay home if that’s how you’re going to perform your “civic duty,” and I’m not going to pat your dumb ass on the back for it.

Ignorant, uninformed voters failed America. This is nothing to be proud of. They should have stayed home rather than throw their ignorant, uninformed vote into the pile. They are very, very clearly out of their depth. It is shameful.

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u/_JohnWisdom 1d ago

calm down! We europeans couldn’t have vote :(

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u/HNL2BOS 1d ago

Why would I be saying fuck you to Europe, you don't vote for our elections.

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u/CackleandGrin 1d ago

Europe will never be safe from American disdain!

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u/PepeSylvia11 1d ago

Agreed. And it pisses me off that they aren't getting the vitroil they should. Republicans are in a cult. Yes, they're responsible. But they've literally been brainwashed for decades. They're incurable.

The nonvoters are the ones that deserve a great deal of hate. They silenced their own voice and supported whichever party won the election. They will go to the grave with that.

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u/jjayzx 1d ago

If not voting was a candidate, they would have won. So essentially no one should be president since most voted for no one.

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u/drzerovector 1d ago

Come on, bro, it's totally oranges and apples, ppl who protested voted should not be blamed for it, dems need to learn a lesson. we are not regretting

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u/DatLooksGood 1d ago

If you voted for the other guys sorry you're getting fucked.

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u/TaterThieff 1d ago

Correct.

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u/jack5624 1d ago

Bro, I live in the UK, I didn't get to vote

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u/mrjackspade 1d ago

I live in the UK

... Fuck you!

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u/FEMXIII 1d ago

Sorry man, I tired but they were like, “you’re British, you can’t vote here”

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u/Calaf_Bae 1d ago

Don't worry, we European hate all Americans equally at this point :) Bottom line is, everyone living in the US is in some way responsible for this, some more than others, and we don't care about the blame game :P

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u/normie_sama 1d ago

I didn't vote AMA

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

If you engaged in spreading hate and dividing both sides rather than seeking out political discussions, fuck you

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u/pullitzer99 1d ago

I don’t regret it

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

Both gave me absolutely nothing to vote for and both were on board with massive amounts of baby killing. Will never vote in good conscience for that. You can guilt trip us all you want. Shame on the democrats and their constituents for not doing more to win those votes. The blame lies entirely on you guys. 

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u/MissWilkem 1d ago

My dude, abortion is healthcare. I’ve been pregnant 6 times. I’d be dead 3 times over if my state had the abortion ban laws that many other states now have. Instead, I have two beautiful kiddos.

One of my ectopic pregnancies needed two rounds of chemo drugs to deal with it, and the second one needed surgical intervention. I’ve also had two miscarriages, the second of which I carried my dead baby inside me for THREE WEEKS before I was able to get a D/C. Strict abortion bans have killed women who otherwise would have gladly gone on to have kids.

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u/Germane_Corsair 1d ago

I might be wrong but I think they’re talking about Palestine, not abortion.

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u/MissWilkem 1d ago

Huh, you’re probably right. I didn’t consider that approach lol

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u/Dakeyras83 1d ago

massive amounts of baby killing

WTF you are bubbling about?

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

You know exactly what I’m talking about. Denial like this is the reason democrats failed to inspire to vote 

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u/Samcolts97 1d ago

Nothing wrong with abortion. It's a medical necessity at times and unless you're gonna start adopting some of the kids that are stuck in foster care, get the fuck off your high horse.

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

I’m talking about a the literal genocide 

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u/Samcolts97 1d ago

In Gaza? Shit is absolutely fucked. Unfortunately my energy can't exactly be diverted to that when my country is on fire because they voted in a fascist fuckwit and is systematically tearing the entire fucking place apart.

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

My point is if the dems actually showed some backbone and stood up for the innocent Palestinians getting wholesale slaughtered by one of our allies the election had a high likelihood of turning out differently and perhaps we wouldn’t have been in this mess 

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u/Samcolts97 1d ago

There is no point anymore. Our relationship with any other country does not mean a rat's ass anymore and we sure as hell aren't going to be doing anything now, Trump the cunt and his cowhores have made that clear. The damage is done and will only get worse as long as he's in office. Those who did not vote and actively voted for him are at fault and that blood is on all of them.

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u/StardusterX 1d ago edited 1d ago

Very impressive display of self-righteous delusion, hope you got a medal for that. Enjoy your Trump, you deserve him.

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

It’s not delusion it’s called integrity and most folks can use a ton more of that these days. Government is the most egregious offender. 

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u/StardusterX 1d ago

In 2024 Biden was reducing military aid to Israel and threatened to stop it completely if nothing changes. Trump is actively proposing to bulldoze Gaza and to enact good ol' ethnic cleansing, while increasing military shipments to Israel. How's your integrity doin'?

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

Give me a source that shows that reduction actually happened. And you want to talk about empty “threats”? Do you know many times Netanyahu made a fool of Biden by crossing every “red line” Biden gave them? And what did Biden do? Send billions more in weapons. So don’t give me that line of BS please 

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u/StardusterX 1d ago

Hre you go, for both points-
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/07/us/politics/israel-biden-arms.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e9q4nylwjo

You can google these yourself. BTW, I must admit that I really appreciate how you completely ignored my inquiry about your integrity (in context of Trumps genocidal proposals).

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

A threat to cut military aid is not the same thing as actually cutting military aid. 

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u/StardusterX 1d ago

Did you bother to even read the first headline of the first link?

Biden Puts Arms Shipment to Israel on Hold Amid Dispute Over Rafah Attack

I actually link sources and you just keep dodging questions. Makes sense.

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

How ironic you talking about self righteous delusion.

I wonder if you’ll ever be self aware enough to realize your hateful and disgusting words and lack of accountability for the corruption on your own side is the leading motivator for the people you hate.

I see so many people hating on the idiots on the right for ignoring everything trump does and looking at him with rose colored glasses then go ahead and do the exact same thing.

You’re more focused on hate speech and letting out your rage, you don’t actually want progress. If you wanted progress you’d realize nothing will move forward without unity.

Oh and uhh, I’m very left leaning. Usually people assume I’m on the right because they can’t fathom people would have unbiased and objective opinions rather than seeking comfort in an echo chamber

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u/StardusterX 1d ago

And the award for the best "nothingburger" of a reply goes to... you? Congratulatins?

Few things for you to think about:
#1 99.9% of all politicians suck, but elections matter.
#2 Sometimes you got to go with the lesser evil so that you could have a chance to make things better.

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

I’m not surprised you think it’s a nothing burger. I can understand how difficult it can be to look at the bigger picture when you’re unable to look past a narrow world view and a hatred for people who don’t think like you. It’s very similar to what you’d see from the right.

Here’s some things for you to think about.

  1. Local elections matter. National elections where two sides are completely funded by the wealthy who are tearing us apart and acting like your sides evils are unimportant causes division, discredits you, and motivates the other side.

  2. There’s a difference between choosing the lesser evil and doing that then doing absolutely nothing to critique the evils of your own. The idea that as long as the other side doesn’t win, you’ll be fine. This very attitude causes the division that allows the evils to exist in the first place. Truly if people weren’t like that we couldn’t possibly be in this position.

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u/StardusterX 1d ago edited 1d ago

You've made two posts with a plethora of baseless assumptions. Congratulations, again. You've also missed both points, or pretended to so you could try to preserve your smugness about ignoring the issue of giving a felon the means to make things way worse for no reason.

No one is saying Biden was great, or that dems are great. They aren't, but republicans are just worse in general. They both suck, that was the point of choosing lesser evil (but you ignored that point, it probably was inconvenient for you). With republicans now all laws are ignored, all previous partnerships are thrown to the wind. Dems suck, but they don't suck this much. This time it really wasn't usual "both sides". It's not about vilifying, it never was. It's about actual facts, observations and results.

If you can't see the obvious and you want to keep your "both sides" schtick then I'll leave you to it.

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

Baseless assumptions? It’s hard to get through to someone so close minded. I love that you have the audacity to talk about smugness. I’m not ignoring the issue of trump. I’m blaming you for it. Your attitude. Your smugness. Your inability to look past your hatred and generalization of half this country. Your unwillingness to extend a good foot forward. Your inability to look past partisanship and try to work with your fellow Americans towards a better solution.

And if your solution is picking your lesser evil and then doing nothing but focusing on trump for 4 years like with Biden’s presidency then you are exactly the problem. Half this country is not ok with what Biden is doing and the fact that people like you focused on trump when he wasn’t even president rather than holding Biden and his admin to the same standard is the reason they don’t see your lesser evil side.

If you can’t see the effect your attitude has on others, if you can’t realize that you’re parroting the same divisiveness online bots are spreading, then I have nothing to say to you either. But I won’t let you get away with all of your hypocrisy without saying anything.

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u/ElectronicPhrase6050 1d ago

I'm really not sure how you can possibly blame a person who voted for the opposing side for Trump being elected lol. The blame lies with the people either chose to vote for him or chose not to vote at all. Your comment literally makes zero sense and I honestly refuse to believe you're actually too stupid to not know that.

But I'm actually a lot more curious as to what exactly you did to "hold Biden and his admin to the same standard" when he was president and what exactly you're doing now to hold Trump and his admin "to the same standard"? Keeping in mind that not voting (ie literally doing nothing) doesn't count lol.

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u/theshadowiscast 1d ago

Not voting doesn't mean you reject either candidate, it means you accept either candidate. If your claims were true, then that means you supported the "massive amount of baby killing" either way.

Your morality is just performative and you don't understand the concept of harm reduction.

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

What if you think the words and actions of both sides are so hateful and disgusting, you just accept everyone deserves whatever happens?

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u/theshadowiscast 1d ago

What are this words and actions that are equally hateful and disgusting on both sides?

you just accept everyone deserves whatever happens?

Do transgender people deserve to face a genocide? Do vulnerable groups deserve to be punished?

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

The divisive language. The smug attitude. The idea that it’s your way or get the F out. The constant bashing. The insults. Just generally, I want you to think what you’d think if you were on the other side. Well you don’t have to because the right does it too. So to put this into perspective, the way you look at them they look at you too.

If the right is the dumb side (they are), you antagonizing them is truly just asking for everything that’s going on. That’s why I put equal or more blame on my own side, the left. We’re supposed to be smarter. We’re supposed to be educated. Instead the smarter side chooses to spend all of their time throwing shit at the other side.

Maybe start by tabling the most divisive issues. Start talking about things everyone can agree with that will help people across the board, and just have any awareness at all about how your words might motivate someone else.

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u/theshadowiscast 1d ago edited 1d ago

If the right is the dumb side (they are), you antagonizing them is truly just asking for everything that’s going on. That’s why I put equal or more blame on my own side, the left. We’re supposed to be smarter. We’re supposed to be educated. Instead the smarter side chooses to spend all of their time throwing shit at the other side.

I agree. Attacking others is easier, more satisfying in the short term, and makes people more defensive and less likely to want to consider other views.

I've gotten through to people with racist, misogynist, or homophobic views by listening to why they have those opinions and discussing them. In those cases where it successfully changed people's minds, though, they were willing to listen and consider other things. What is that saying? You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make a horse drink water?

The thing is propaganda inoculates people and makes it harder to get through to them (pre-2016 was a different world). When people are still clinging to "both sides are the same" when information is much easier to access these days it feels like they've embraced willful ignorance at this point.

I also thought the left was supposed to be smarter and more educated, but I know so many leftists that don't vote in primaries, complain about other people not picking the candidates they want, and use it as an excuse to not vote in the general election (oh do they have a litany of excuses). They now are pissed at Democrats for not stopping Republicans and threaten to continue to not vote.

Maybe start by tabling the most divisive issues. Start talking about things everyone can agree with that will help people across the board, and just have any awareness at all about how your words might motivate someone else.

This is good advice. There are many policies that people can agree on as long as it doesn't contain certain trigger words.

Edit: People outraged by atrocities committed in another country can't claim they have "moral integrity" when they ignore what Trump has been open about doing to vulnerable groups here at home and don't oppose it.

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u/rIIIflex 1d ago

I think the information is easy to find for those who know to look. Conservatives don’t seek it out because they already have their own sources and the sources that you’d want them to look at are represented by the same people that they hate.

If the plan is to expect the right to suddenly broaden their views then it’s completely pointless. They never will. The only chance is to try and create a new image for the left. We cannot insult and generalize those who disagree with us and we have to hold our own to the same standards. We have to be the leaders, not the politicians, the people. If you see hatred you need to call it out. Regardless of side. I’m banned off of multiple left and right subs because of this very sentiment. People don’t want to hear it. They will downvote you, call you an idiot, not listen to a word you say, but it’s still important to hammer the most important point. If we can’t come together, things will continue to get worse.

These are the reasons I refuse to vote. People get comfortable as long as it isn’t trump and nothing changes. The left just doesn’t represent itself well and it’s not something I could go out and vote for and not feel shame. You give me any candidate not brought in through hundreds of millions or even more donations through the Democratic Party and I’ll be first in line to vote.

Tbh the second the left rolled over and allowed Bernie to get screwed over by the democrats TWICE it was over. Nothing will ever change because both sides will point at the evils of the other to get support and essentially allow their candidate to do ANYTHING. Think about what Kamala would need to do to get her supporters to vote for trump. Same the other way around. Infinite leeway for all parties.

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u/tekprodfx16 1d ago

It’s not performative, I have tons of Muslim friends that have been adversely affected psychologically because they see the entire world turn their backs to them while the west endorses state sponsored genocide. It’s called integrity. Not ok with either candidate and don’t manipulate yourself or others into thinking that is the case. The dems were ok with massive amounts of human rights abuses and were cozying up to billionaires just as closely as Trump. Both sides are awful. Not going to vote for one side because one side is less of a demon than the other. They’re both awful.

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u/Funguy97 1d ago

Cope. As a direct result of your vote, you now get no wiggle room on Palestine and Trump gets to plan his genocidal mega-resort. You got played

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u/Dr-Sommer 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well have fun jerking yourself off about your integrity while Trump helps Bibi turn the entire Gaza strip into molten glass. You and your warped sense of moral superiority sure did a great job avoiding that genocide, huh?

Not going to vote for one side because one side is less of a demon than the other.

As the other poster said, you morons don't understand the concept of harm reduction.

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u/frank_the_tank69 1d ago

If you failed to put up a viable candidate for your own base to vote for, fuck you too. 

I have another…if you failed to prosecute a criminal that stole confidential documents, fuck you too.  

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u/StinkySmellyMods 1d ago

I still don't talk to my mom. Thanked her for the Xmas gift but that was it

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u/TaterThieff 1d ago

I know exactly what you mean chap, I am from the Black Country originally and thought I was coming to the sane place lol.

Maybe it’s me, 12 years later and it’s not great lol, I could always come back as I have dual citizenship but that feels too much like giving up, I won’t let these racists and gob shites win.

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u/siriston 22h ago

it’s working, fuck the south! civil war incoming! china and russia have won.