r/BeAmazed Mar 05 '25

History Are we truly living in the future?

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

..... if you use the word gatekept while asking for vaulted patents it's the same in this instance. Even if publicly available the patent cannot be made or used by anyone who doesn't own the patent, so go look through them and see what you don't see in your everyday life, and those would be considered Vaulted.

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u/Adorable-Ad-3223 Mar 05 '25

I was looking for some examples. I'm not trying to be pedantic. If you don't have some, that is fine, I was genuinely curious.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

Highly efficient solar panels with unique designs, Advanced energy storage systems, Next-generation water purification, a slew of medical patents as well among other things. But again you could easily search for patents not in use and see lists of thousands that aren't commercialized for whatever reason.

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u/Potential-Camel-8270 Mar 06 '25

Wait did you say easily search through... patents? You know that there is an entire bar exam dedicated just to patent law? And how do you propose to search through the literal millions of patents that aren't commercialized? The level of misunderstanding is mind boggling.

I'm not saying that patent trolling and suppression isn't real, but it's not as easy as you think to go through even one actual patent yourself and fully understand it, let alone thousands. Sure i guess you can search around the internet and see what other people say but it's easy to make fantastic claims so I'd recommend inspecting the patents yourself as well.

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u/IP_What Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

It is in fact true that the majority—perhaps the vast majority—of patents are never commercialized.

But it’s conspiracy thinking to imagine that malign forces are holding back useful inventions for… reasons. Most startups fail. When they fail their patents mostly drop into obscurity. Because no one could successfully build a business around that IP.

Patents publish and patents expire. When the business doesnt work out some other innovator can make use of the expired IP or buy the remaining patents and iterate on it.

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u/Sauerkrauttme Mar 06 '25

To play devil's advocate, China's communist culture doesn't believe in intellectual property so a patent absolutely wouldn't stop China from doing it.

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u/AlcheMe_ooo Mar 06 '25

Damn, I kinda feel like this approach would lead to a more balanced system.

Doing away with IP. It sounds terrifying and there would be some drawbacks but I wonder if it would be better on the whole

I am definitely an open source kind of person when it comes to my own creations. Give the shit away, let them pay me for my help with it

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u/JoltKola Mar 06 '25

I think at the very least they should get a commision for a few years or so as to reward r&d or inventors

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u/AlcheMe_ooo Mar 06 '25

There we go see if we start from open source we can build in solutions for the OG. Like auto royalties or some shiz. That's what you get a "patent" for is auto royalties for a time period

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u/IP_What Mar 06 '25

This is changing. There are still lots of problems enforcing patent rights in China, but it’s possible now for well financed companies with sufficiently valuable rights.

The bigger issue in China is theft of trade secrets.

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u/pablopeecaso Mar 05 '25

Aero Foam/gel is one amazing insulation properties barley make the stuff because one company is a patent troll.

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u/IP_What Mar 06 '25

Here’s some of the core Aerogel IP

https://patents.google.com/patent/US10487095B2/

It expired in 2023. Now freely available for anyone to make and use.

(Note, however, that if there have been subsequent related improvements, you can’t necessarily incorporate them. But you can make anything and everything described in this patent.)

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u/pablopeecaso Mar 06 '25

Remember this patents are only good as your relationship to the military, industrial, govermental complex. An thats exactly what has transpired with aero gel they make a small improvment often rediculously simple an you cant do any-thing with it.

Remember the base material was made in 1942!