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We have seen everyone in the media and government proclaim LM guilty without due process. Everyone in the US deserves a fair trial, so far in the media he is not getting that.

https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ceo-shooting-suspect

Informative article.. So far the general consensus among defense attorneys seems that Defense won’t deny the crime in the first phase of the trial. But who knows the actual strategy..

Edit: It's actually Aggravating factors.

Since Pam Bondi decided to go to Fox News and double down on the choice to seek the death penalty for LM, I decided to see just how many aggravating factors were applicable to this crime. I found only two, and one of them is a stretch.

Before I say any anything else, I wanna make it clear there is very little chance LM is getting the death penalty even if convicted of all federal charges. A New York jury hasn’t sentenced anyone to death in 60 years. Multiple people who committed much more violent and depraved crimes than LM have been tried in that time and still no New York jury has unanimously agreed to the death penalty.

I want to point out the complete lack of aggravating factors to show how much this move by the DOJ has nothing to do with justice for an “innocent father of 2.” I hope I don’t need to explain why they’ve decided to target LM specifically, because that’s a given. There are many other people charged with murder who are awaiting trial with a lot more aggravating factors in their alleged crimes than LM, but they’ve made a point to single out LM first and foremost to push their agenda.

According to 18 U.S. Code § 3592, Section (C) Aggravating Factors For Homicide, the only aggravating factors that apply to this case would be:

(5) Grave Risk of Death to Additional Persons The defendant, in the commission of the offense, or in escaping apprehension for the violation of the offense, knowingly created a grave risk of death to 1 or more persons in addition to the victim of the offense.

In my opinion this doesn’t really apply to the murder, but since the DOJ made a point to mention that he did it in public with additional people nearby it’s clearly something they plan to use against him. This should be very easy to argue against.

(9) Substantial Planning and Premeditation The defendant committed the offense after substantial planning and premeditation to cause the death of a person or commit an act of terrorism.

The way this applies to the case is a given.

“If there was ever a death case, this is one” For one and a half aggravating factors?? He didn’t kidnap anybody, he didn’t torture anyone, he has no criminal history whatsoever, yet this is the defendant that Pam Bondi and the DOJ decided to publicly and proudly target for the death penalty.

Source for the Aggravating factors: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3592

"For example, the criminal complaint against Luigi Mangione, who is accused of killing the United Healthcare CEO in New York City on 4 December 2024, explicitly mentions his body language. When asked by a police of if he'd been to New York recently, Mangione "became quiet and started to shake, the complaint notes.

The fact that it’s mentioned in official documentation suggests the authorities thought body language said something important about Mangione, Denault says. “The problem is what would have happened if someone innocent also shook and became quiet,” he says.

“And I can tell you a million circumstances where someone honest could start to shake and be quiet.”

Mangione has pleaded not guilty to all charges brought against him in connection with the incident, and the matter is yet to come to trial. The significance of, and weight given to, the references to his body language is therefore, as yet, unknown."

From Ken K. substack article about the anti-Trump protests.

Good on him for wearing the mask, stay safe everyone..

I was checking out Luigis donation page and saw that some of the donation messages have gotten really weird or straight up crazy. Maybe it’s all just humor but idk, donating to someone and adding a joke in there even though the person you’re donating to is potentially facing the death penalty seems weird. Especially when using his (alleged) ex-gf name and writing a fan fic under that name, another person continuing that intern story that was posted on Rednote, or someone else writing “I trust Luigi so much I would have his baby”..

I know there have always been the crazy supporters but I felt like they were more active on TikTok and IG, not so much sharing their thoughts on the donation website.

I was reviewing the prosecution’s response letter and the automatic discovery form, and a few things came to mind. One key piece of evidence that could be damning is the Motorola phone found in the alleyway near the crime scene. We know it has smudged fingerprints matching Luigi’s, but we also know that they have HTAU cellphone extraction, cell tower dump returns, and analysis. How incriminating do you think this is? How smart do you think Luigi was in covering his tracks every step of the way (assuming he’s the suspect)? I know he allegedly had Faraday bags with him. Do you think he kept all his electronics in them 24/7 at his hostel, the one location that we know for sure ties to him? Did he keep the Motorola in a Faraday bag on the morning of the crime while walking around the city, in an attempt to avoid cell tower detection? Was there no SIM card, and was he making calls through internet connections (meaning the phone wouldn’t rely on cell towers)? Did he delete his metadata? I’d love to hear your thoughts on the steps you think he took (or neglected) to avoid being traced, considering the period from the day he arrived in New York, November 24th to December 4th.

In the prosecution’s response letter (page 4), they mention that nothing from the electronic devices was introduced in the grand jury (including phone records, iCloud data, iPhone, MacBook, flash drives, computer chip, etc.). Why do you think that is? Could it be that there’s nothing incriminating on them, or was the data recovery/analysis simply not completed in time for the grand jury? Or could it be a strategic decision? Etc

Following this case has been anxiety inducing, to say the least. When you try to think like an investigator and a lawyer, you realize there are so many pieces of information that can be used to tie a crime to a suspect, which you wouldn’t notice unless you actually dissect and pick apart all the steps the suspect took.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-doge-protests-hands-off-472c574303260cbac315367cc808960d

“Opponents of President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk rallied across the U.S. on Saturday to protest the administration’s actions on government downsizing, the economy, human rights and other issues.

More than 1,200 “Hands Off!” demonstrations were planned by more than 150 groups, including civil rights organizations, labor unions, LBGTQ+ advocates, veterans and elections activists. The protest sites included the National Mall in Washington, D.C., state capitols and other locations in all 50 states.”

Why is this important for LMs case?

Because it is an obvious government overcharge and overreach.

Why is this different than just only protesting for LMs freedom and justice?

When advocating for political prisoners, there is an understandable impulse to center their name and story, to personalize the injustice and demand their immediate release. However, while this approach may feel morally urgent, it carries significant strategic risks. By focusing narrowly on an individual, movements inadvertently provide authorities with a clear target for retaliation. Governments often exploit such cases to discredit broader dissent, painting activists as fringe supporters of a single "criminal" rather than challengers of systemic abuse.

The approach of protesting around the structural overreach that enabled the over charge in the first place, whether that’s unchecked surveillance, judicial corruption, or the criminalization of dissent. Systemic critiques resonate across ideological lines. Those hesitant to defend a specific prisoner may still oppose government corruption or eroded civil liberties, expanding the reach.

In NYC, these are all potential jurors protesting the bigger picture and obvious government overreach on all aspects of the population.

Video is from r/nyc

r/50501

Here's the translation via ChatGPT:

Why I got to see Luigi:
I'm currently doing a law-related internship in New York, and I often go in and out of MDC (a detention center) to meet clients. That day, I was there to meet a different client, and I saw Luigi with his legal team in the visiting area. Due to prison regulations, privacy, and professional ethics, I can’t share too many details.

Luigi’s condition:**
He had a full beard on both cheeks, and his hair was cut so short that you couldn’t even tell it used to be curly. He was wearing the standard prison uniform. He didn’t look as polished as he did during his court appearances, but he still seemed fairly relaxed — leaning back in his chair with his legs crossed, chatting with his lawyers. Around noon, one of the lawyers bought him some cookies and bread from the vending machine for lunch (the only food allowed). Watching him eat felt kind of heartbreaking [cry emoji]. It looked like they were going to be talking all day — they were already there when I arrived, and still there when I left.

Interaction with Luigi (if you can call it that):**
Pic 3 is a snapshot of my thoughts at the time lol. You’re only allowed to bring a laptop into the prison, not your phone, so I only have text records. Later I went into a glass-walled meeting room, leaned against the wall, and stared outside waiting longingly for my client. I had already been waiting for 1–2 hours, and I was in about the state shown in pic 4. Then Luigi passed by on his way back from the bathroom. Maybe he’d never seen a visitor more disheveled than the inmates, or maybe I stood out as possibly the only Asian person there (?) — he kept staring at me as he walked by. I looked at him several times too (but didn’t dare to stare), and before I could decide how to react, he had already walked past.

Why I didn’t greet or encourage him:**
First of all, there was a pane of glass between us, and he was just passing by, so there was no real chance to. Subjectively, I was in total inner conflict — should I wave? Give him a thumbs up? Pretend I didn’t recognize him? My mind was a mess but outwardly I just had my arms crossed with a poker face (I regret it, I regret it, don’t scold me [cry emoji]). Plus, the other lawyers present were all calm and didn’t acknowledge him either. Luigi probably had serious matters to discuss and didn’t want to be disturbed. So for all those reasons, I didn’t interact with him further.

Source : https://www.tumblr.com/dn-838/780014968805507072/my-last-post-on-the-subject

Health/Employee Benefits News 3 hours agoNewswires Don't let death penalty turn Luigi Mangione into a martyr The Daily Mail The death penalty should be off the table for Luigi Mangione, accused killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. And not for any reason sympathetic to Mangione.

Attaching the death penalty to Mangione's trial would only make a martyr out of an accused killer who has already inspired zealous support among legions of fans.

Ever since Mangione allegedly gunned down Thompson in a December dawn ambush in New York, the 26-year-old was refashioned into a modern-day hero by those angry with health care in America, and the health insurance industry in particular.

After his eventual arrest in an Altoona, PA McDonalds, spurred by a tip from a worker who recognized Mangione, the restaurant was swamped with negative reviews and had to hire private security to protect workers, Newsweek reported.

His legal defense fund has raised over $722,000 as of this month, according to the New York Post.

"People are raising money not for his innocence, but because they're in support of allegedly what he did," NewsNation legal contributor Jesse Weber said on "Elizabeth Vargas Reports."

And that's the problem - Mangione's alleged actions are seen by far too many as justified. Mangione is lauded, swooned over, and fiercely protected by his fans.

Health/Employee Benefits News 3 hours agoNewswires Don't let death penalty turn Luigi Mangione into a martyr The Daily Mail The death penalty should be off the table for Luigi Mangione, accused killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. And not for any reason sympathetic to Mangione.

Attaching the death penalty to Mangione's trial would only make a martyr out of an accused killer who has already inspired zealous support among legions of fans.

Ever since Mangione allegedly gunned down Thompson in a December dawn ambush in New York, the 26-year-old was refashioned into a modern-day hero by those angry with health care in America, and the health insurance industry in particular.

After his eventual arrest in an Altoona, PA McDonalds, spurred by a tip from a worker who recognized Mangione, the restaurant was swamped with negative reviews and had to hire private security to protect workers, Newsweek reported.

His legal defense fund has raised over $722,000 as of this month, according to the New York Post.

"People are raising money not for his innocence, but because they're in support of allegedly what he did," NewsNation legal contributor Jesse Weber said on "Elizabeth Vargas Reports."

And that's the problem - Mangione's alleged actions are seen by far too many as justified. Mangione is lauded, swooned over, and fiercely protected by his fans.

For anyone not aware of this, a person claiming to be the shooter on Tumblr made a post a few days ago "confessing" to the crime, this was never posted on this sub, probably because the confession was so obviously fake, but it unsurprisingly made its way to TikTok and posts about it have gotten 100k+ likes. Some people genuinely took it seriously.

This person has now admitted they made it all up due to a mental health crisis. I make this post because I'm surprised that something like this hasn't already happened in this case, and I'm curious to see if it will happen more often. People have always given LM a fake alibi but straight up (seemingly non jokingly) taking the fall for the crime to get him off the hook is unheard of so far.

How far would people take a fake confession like this, would people come up with extremely detailed descriptions of planning it out?? Post themselves for comparison?? Get a gun exactly like LM's??

I hope this doesn't become a trend. This person sent a confession to KFA's team through the website and it only wastes their time reading through stuff like this. I'm sure they all know better than to take things like that seriously but they have a lot of work to do. They made that section of the website for genuine insights that could help their defence, not for deranged supporters to take accountability for the crime.

“I think the death penalty is absolutely appropriate in this case, and I think the attorney general was spot on. By everything we’ve seen in the evidence, this was a premeditated assassination. I think there’s a very strong interest in the federal government pursuing the death penalty and I think it’s appropriate. That’s what the attorney general decided to do.”

“This was a heinous assassination that captured the attention of America, so it’s definitely on people’s radar screens, but I don’t see any sort of political agenda in the attorney general’s decision to seek the death penalty here—and look that’s his defense lawyer, she has a right to her opinion and she can, and sure will, present those arguments to a jury or to a judge, that he had no prior criminal history, there are allegedly mitigating considerations that might cut against imposing the death penalty, but again that’s not a decision ultimately that the government will make. That’s a decision that will be made by jurors in New York and a judge in New York.”

“I think in a minimum he’s facing life without parole, as to whether or not he gets the death penalty, look I think there’s a decent chance. Obviously it’s going to depend on the particular make up of the jury, presumably this will be a jury sitting in New York, New York itself doesn’t have a death penalty, there’s a federal death penalty—but New York doesn’t have the death penalty, so these are not jurors who in their ordinary day-to-day life are gonna be considering things like—that said, the evidence in this case does appear to be overwhelming. It’s hard for me to imagine what sort of mitigating or exculpatory factors would come into play here, so I think that the prosecution is gonna have a very credible, very powerful case, that the ultimate penalty must be imposed here.”

“Look, I like it. I think the difference between this administration and the last administration is that this administration is taking violent crimes seriously, and they’re deploying prosecutorial resources into indentifying violent criminals, charging them, putting them behind bars. Joe Biden in his final days kind of took a lot of people off of death row. I think this administration is gonna take a different approach, I think they’re going to enforce the laws seriously, they’re gonna adopt a zero tolerance approach when it comes to violent offenders.”