r/CanadianConservative • u/smartbusinessman • 1d ago
Discussion Door knocking today in Toronto (St Paul’s)
Angry looking bald guy opens the door and says “go fuck yourself. You are misguided. I think you should go and suck trumps cock”
Why are liberal voters so angry?
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u/itsjehmun 1d ago
Actually though, this is a huge symptom of brain washing. Many times when you ask a liberal voter:
- Why do you hate Trump?
- Why do you like Mark Carney?
- Why is Pierre bad?
They immediately become angry, and this is because they realize all at once that they don't know why they feel these things. (The news slowly trickled the message to them).
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u/ceether 1d ago
I have never heard of a Canadian unable to say why they hate Trump
Trump repeats again and again: he’s not going to stop being tough on Canada with ridiculous tariffs until Canadians surrender to become a 51st state.
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u/itsjehmun 1d ago
I didn't say Trump was good, I was just saying Trump derangement syndrome is real and it effects many people. Also, for reference, can you point to one specific instance of Trump saying "I'm putting tariffs on Canada so I can make it the 51st state"?
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u/ceether 1d ago
“You’re tougher with Canada than you are with our biggest adversaries. Why?” asked Laura Ingraham.
“Only because it’s meant to be our fifty-first state,”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reveals-stunning-reason-why-133422022.html
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u/ProgressAway3392 22h ago
It could be the fact that Trump is super racist and Canada is a pretty progressive society...
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u/patrick_bamford_ GenZ Conservative | Stuck in Ontario 1d ago
They are angry because their anger allows them to misdirect any inquiries towards the catastrophic decade of liberal rule.
This is a pretty common technique used by scam artists, “why can I trust liberals after what they have done over the last 10 years?”
“Surely you are a trump supporter hurr durr”
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u/Viking_Leaf87 1d ago
The party of tolerance and decency doesn't seem to be sending their best...
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u/wildeofoscar 1d ago
Because they think they're morally superior and therefore do not believe they should lower themselves to answer a single question that challenges their programming.
They're trying to provoke you by using insults so that if you lash out, they could record it and send it out to the media or socials to make the Conservative campaign (in this case Don Stewart's re-election campaign), look bad.
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u/specificallyrelative 1d ago
It's the virtue of the intolerant left. They preach tolerance and inclusion, yet will literally assault someone who isn't in complete adherence to their beliefs.
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u/No_Drop_6279 1d ago
They think the paradox of intolerance means they have to be mean to everyone or they will become Nazis.
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u/Double-Crust 1d ago
I bet there are plenty of people who haven’t heard of door-knocking and are automatically suspicious of anyone who shows up on their doorstep.
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u/PoorAxelrod Recovering partisan | Nonpartisan centre right thinker 1d ago
Rage isn’t partisan.
I’ve never understood why some people feel it’s okay to take out their frustrations on political volunteers. I’ve seen it happen across the board—Liberals, Conservatives, New Democrats—it doesn’t matter the party. Volunteers aren't the enemy. They're our neighbours, classmates, coworkers, and friends.
If you don’t support a party, that’s fine. Say so politely—or just say nothing at all. There’s no need to freak out, hurl insults, or make someone’s day miserable. Most of us were taught as kids: If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
It’s not weakness to be civil. It’s strength. We can disagree without being cruel. Let’s not forget that.
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u/No_Drop_6279 1d ago
I worked in customer service for years. Some people just take their frustrations out on whoever is in front of them.
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u/Elibroftw Moderate 1d ago
Mentally ill bro. That's the average Redditor for you. Unable to debate, they just blindly believe anything Carney and liberals say. Look at my comment history debating them. It's a nuisance having to explain to them why even a simple policy like Poilievre's GST cut is better than Carney's and the status quo. My entire family works for American corporations. How is Carney and Trudeau going to increase competition of Canadians companies when bill c-69 makes it harder to compete and create jobs?
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u/aiyanapacrew 1d ago
because your whole pathetic world is crumbling and they are being forced to live in reality so like the toddlers they are they throw a tantrum. anyone who has had to deal with children should recognize the behavior
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u/banterviking Ontario 1d ago
Why did they knock on your door, do you have a con sign on your lawn or something?
Unhinged as heck.
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u/smartbusinessman 1d ago
Sorry, I should’ve been more clear. I’m canvassing and door knocking for the conservatives
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u/worstchristmasever 1d ago
Liberals would NEVER do anything like that!
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u/worstchristmasever 1d ago
Ok I agree with you that liberals aren't human, but I can definitely picture a sputtering boomer belching out this exact phrase.
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u/Smallpaul Independent 1d ago
Do you that Conservative voters in rural Canada are uniformly responding to Liberal door knockers politely?
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u/Rig-Pig 1d ago
Why wouldn't they be polite? We all of a sudden need to be a huge dick heads to people because we have different political views? World is going to shit.
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u/K0bra_Ka1 Red Tory 1d ago
I'll let you guess which party is proudly displaying flags and clothing that say "Fuck Carney" and also still flying the "Fuck Trudeau" flag. The Liberal L swastikas are especially cute.
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u/No_Drop_6279 1d ago
Maybe the liberals shouldnt have destroyed the economy and tried to cover it up by importing millions of people who ended up scammers?
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u/Level_Inevitable6089 1d ago
Pierre Pollivere is a populist that has branded himself as a Trump-lite candidate and has no experience doing anything but backbenching.
He's objectively the worst choice for working class Canadians, he servers the rich and the resource industry not workers.
Look it up trickle down economics never works and isn't seriously considered viable by any real economics expert.
So if you do to someone's home and ask them to vote for a man who doesn't represent working Canadians and who uses fearmongering against others to drum up support are you suprised that you're getting told to pound sand?
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u/TheeDirtyToast 1d ago
Dude. Carney IS the rich. Who the fuck do you think he serves?
Wake up and stop spewing garbage propaganda thinking you're smart.
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u/Level_Inevitable6089 1d ago
I'm not here saying Carney is for the working class either.
It's not propaganda its factually true, you just have to look up Pollivere's voting record.
Ultimately Pollivere supporters don't actually know anything about the economic situation facing the middle class, they just use economic issues as a smokescreen for their social beliefs.
Of the 3 major parties of we look at their proposed income tax plans you'll find that.
1) The CPC wants a 2.25% tax cut on the lowest income bracket which is enough to create a roughly 4 billion dollar budget loss which means loss of programs for low and middle class workers. Also Pollivere has been disingenuously calling this a 15% tax cut which while technically true is not how we talk about tax rates.
2) The LPC plan is exactly the same but a 1% reduction instead of 2.25. It has the exact same problems just not as large.
3) The NDP plan is multifaceted and much more nuanced it includes raising the federal minimum tax bracket by 505$ which is a 505$ tax break per person. They also plan to eliminate GST on essential bills including things like phone, heating, food and internet. All told the NDP plan would concentrate the benefits of the tax cut on people earning below $177,882 per year as individuals and the loss would be offset by small tax increases on people above that tax bracket.
Now I'm not going to vote NDP but tell me honestly which of the 3 proposed tax cuts most comprehensively addresses the growing income disparity between the wealthiest and the average Canadian?
Seems pretty obvious.
I don't advocate being a 1 issue voter but if you look at the problems facing Canada and the solutions being offered 1 thing becomes clear. Pollivere is the worst possible choice on every possible issue.
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u/K0bra_Ka1 Red Tory 1d ago edited 1d ago
Which candidate voted against $10 day care, raising the minimum wage, children's food program at school, child benefit, universal dental care among many other benefits to the lower and middle class?
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u/TheeDirtyToast 1d ago
The one smart enough to see that the liberal government is spending away our country's future to win votes.
ETA:
Why is it always you...
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u/K0bra_Ka1 Red Tory 1d ago
Wonder how many of these programs he'll repeal then if it will save the Canadian taxpayers so much money...
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u/TheeDirtyToast 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hopefully he starts with the 100 million we just sent to Hamas terrorists.
ETA:
We would have 5 billion dollars more to put towards these programs if it weren't for Carney's pesky little bike shop in Bermuda.
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u/patrick_bamford_ GenZ Conservative | Stuck in Ontario 1d ago
I have an idea, why don’t we pass a law that gives every Canadian a million dollars each, every year. That’ll definitely solve all our problems.
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u/No_Drop_6279 1d ago
I would vote against those too, because we literally can't afford any of it as a country. We need to fix the medical system before we start adding more gimmes.
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u/Marc4770 1d ago
Carney has suggested only more spending and tax cuts,but no spending cuts. Poilievre has a much more reasonable approach with both spending and cuts.
Also Poilievre policies have nothing ti do with "trickle down" you're just using buzz words. Look at the actual policies.
Ask yourself if you want more deficits or more balanced budget.
If you want bigger government or less government.
If you want more internet censorship or less.
If we should encourage the local economy (by repealing some bills such as C69) or more imports.
A big government always has more corruption, also the liberals have been in power for too long and have achieved nothing. They keep promising to build housing when they can't even fill their previous promises on that. You really think Carney is going to build 500k homes per year just because he says it?
Poilievre has much more realistic policies and doesn't promise things that are impossible or are just a setup for more corruption
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u/Level_Inevitable6089 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'd say actually if you think those things you are the uneducated voter.
25% of "red tape" isn't a spending cut, it's nonsense. All governments cut and fund programs every single year.
Canada has run the most lean budgets of the G7 for the past 10 years.
Internet censorship isn't a real problem it's something babies complain about.
Bill C-69 or something like it is necessary. Both candidates have promised to increase resource production and build new pipelines.
Just because you haven't been paying attention doesn't mean nothing has been accomplished in the past 10 years.
Pollivere's policies bounce between terrible plans to plans so vague they are meaningless.
You desperately need to learn more about the world.
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u/Marc4770 20h ago
Canada has doubled its debt, how is it lean budget, look at Scandinavian countries or Switzerland, they have already paid their covid debt. Learn more about the world than only 7 countries.
Internet censorship is a real problem, look at how it's going in other countries, people getting arrested for social media post. Its starting in the UK.
Using a teenager argument "something baby complain about" and somehow I'm the uneducated one when you're the one using ad hominem and intimidation arguments instead of real arguments.
Have you seen how hard it is today for young people to afford a home? Why is crime raising? Why is deficits up every year. And somehow things have been accomplished? Like what? Corruption?
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u/Level_Inevitable6089 17h ago
Defecit-GDP ratio 2024 / average income tax
Canada 2.1% / 25.6%
USA 6.4% / 14.5%
Sweeden 1.5% / 32%
Finland 4% / 31.6%
Switzerland 0.01% / 40%
Norway 14% surplus 45.52%
Of all the nations you mentioned only Norway has a budget surplus. Are saying that that you want to nationalize the energy sector and increase our taxes to be more like Norway?
No, Internet censorship isn't a real problem, it's just a thing babies complain about and I won't seriously entertain it.
Young people haven't been able to afford a home since the mid 80s. By the mid 90s the average home cost 5.5x the average salary now it costs 8.5x. The problem is getting worse but its not new.
Crime rates are 25% lower than their peak in 2003.
Almost every country on Earth runs a budget defecit. Canada's government has actually run one of the smallest defecits.
Just because you don't pay attention to anything happening at the national level doesn't mean nothing has happened.
Frankly I find it embarrassing that a person as poorly informed as you is going to vote. You make the country worse for all of us.
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u/Marc4770 9h ago edited 9h ago
The only reason why all the stats linked to GDP are "looking fine" is because Trudeau decided to raise immigration to one of the highest levels in the world, so that the GDP can keep growing and they can continue their corrupt deficit spending going without looking too bad.
When you look at GDP per capita, we are lagging behind the increase other countries are seeing. Also when you look at gross debt (which is what we pay interest on), it has raised WAY faster than the other countries mentioned, if you look at Sweden or Switzerland they are back to 2019 levels in terms of gross debt, since they started making surplus already.
Also just because all other countries are doing deficits, doesn't mean that it's a good thing to do. Also it's not true that all countries make consistent deficits every year and it's not true that Canada has one of the smallest deficits, it's just hidden by the mass immigration causing a spike in gdp.
Our productivity is not going up as fast as other countries, investments are leaving the country. And the whole economy seems to be focused on speculating on real estate, because any normal type of work is discouraged by high tax and too many regulations that makes it hard to start a small business (which also leaves the way to big corp taking all the space and wages going down). That coupled to the increased corruption concentrate the wealth into the top earners, and leaves less for the middle class.
And it's irrelevant to take a random year (which has the worst crime rate) and say we are better. Crime rates had been declining every year during harper (2006-2014), they were at their lowest in 2014 just before Trudeau took power. They have been increasing every year since 2015. It's so dishonest to be cherry picking a specific year, instead check the trend and curve, and were we are headed based on current policies. In any case, 2003 was also near the end of a liberal government.
"Young people haven't been able to afford a home since the mid 80s" and so what? just because you are used to things going badly doesn't mean we need to continue doing things wrong. There's clearly something we are not doing right. Doing the same thing as the past 30 years is probably not the correct thing to do. (Such as promising to build affordable housing and never accomplishing anything)
And you say I don't pay attention, what has the liberal gov accomplished other than increased corruption. A dental plan for 3% of the population? Weed legalization? And ??
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u/StevenMcStevensen 1d ago
I mean, I wouldn’t be that rude but I also wouldn’t have much patience for political door knockers either. Even if a conservative one showed up I’d be telling them to please go away.