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u/Unlucky-Perception57 Jan 12 '22
What in the fresh hell is this ? What ninja technique they use to get these jobs ? I don't get it.
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u/kingrex0830 Jan 12 '22
They want you to click. That's all it is
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u/Unlucky-Perception57 Jan 12 '22
Yeah.. clickbait. Here is an awful article which people can outrage about. Pathetic.
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u/Nate996 Jan 12 '22
I know, right? People don't seem to get that when you create a race issue, you're part of the fucking problem
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u/Redditperegrino Jan 12 '22
Yeah, man. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve noticed that the often the ones pointing and screaming racism, are the biggest racist in the room.
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u/Independent-Iron1967 Jan 12 '22
Wow! I can’t believe these morons write this horse shit trying to race bait something that has absolutely nothing to do with race….. some people just need to grow up and get a life.
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u/kush125289 Jan 12 '22
Sometimes I do believe their is some serious bias towards DC and specifically Snyder. These will go to any extent to criticize
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Jan 12 '22
There's definitely bias against both. That doesn't invalidate criticism, but it does inform it.
If someone who shots all over Joker and then says Spider-Man No Way Home is best picture worthy, maybe take their opinion with two or three grains of salt.
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u/kush125289 Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 12 '22
See healthy criticism is still fine. We DC fans also do that. We respect each other's opinions and arguments when it comes to divisively received DC films such as BOP, WW84 etc. But being biased towards DC property in general is definitely unfortunate. Ninja clickbait technique
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u/Limp-Construction-11 Jan 12 '22
Spider Man NWH nominated for best picture is still mind baffling to me.
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u/scottfree120 Jan 12 '22
Has it actually been nominated? I thought they were just saying for your consideration
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u/akchugg Jan 13 '22
They want to push NWH for that section. Not nominated yet..If it does then selection committee is definitely "A pack of fools"
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u/itzmrinyo Jan 12 '22
Of course. There's the dumbasses that will stubbornly always vouch against Snyder no matter what, and then there's the ones that will suck his dick
It's best to resent, or at least avoid, both sides. If you dislike his movies, then fine, if you like them, even better, want to see more? Wonderful. Don't be an asshat about it.
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u/OmarAH1 Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 12 '22
I’ve seen some really stupid and pathetic complaints about Snyder’s movies but never to this extent, HOLY SHIT, people go to extreme lengths to criticize one’s work you’d think he shits in their cereal every morning
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u/Holo-Man Jan 12 '22
Johnathan Kent did the same thing essentially so did Clark, so did Colonel Hardy and the scientist. This writer man🤦♂️😂😂
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u/Puzzleheaded_Chard_2 Jan 12 '22
You have to be a pro at mental gymnastics to turn a father sacrificing himself for his son into a problem about race
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u/Dream_World_ This Is My World Jan 12 '22
Moral of the story: The Snyderverse is racist because black people help white people. Thanks for the message, article. I'll just forget what Superman did in BvS.
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u/anxiousnerd91 Jan 12 '22
It has reached a stage that now these people are using the name of Snyder to drive traffic towards their end. I would prefer that we do not let such people get any milage from our sentiments. What matters is in the end we won and they lost, and they are not amused about it.
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Jan 12 '22
Yes they care so much about poc representation that that support josstice league which has cyborgs story criminally trimmed down, and Silas just barely even in the film. But yes keep coping lmao
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u/skingers Jan 13 '22
You mean the trope of finding racism implied in any situation even when the motivation here was actually about saving his son?
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u/alanpardewchristmas Jan 12 '22
Snyder movies just generally have his characters sacrificing themselves for others. Usually, his critics ignore this and claim he has a philosophy of selfishness. But this, this is a new take on stupidity.
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u/theceure Jan 12 '22
Lol where have you been?!!? Saving white peoples is so 1990s.
Unfortunately this is the lens so many people see things through these days. It just shows how much people need to unplug and spent time outside interacting with one another instead of consuming shit like this article all day.
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Jan 12 '22
Ahhhhh yes, loser lefty race-baity critics introducing race where it has no place or context and has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the plot whatsoever. Love that.
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u/MrKevora Jan 12 '22
Snyder literally added the Martian Manhunter scene during reshoots because Warner wouldn't allow him to use John Stewart, but Snyder refused to have a scene focusing on a person of colour cut from the movie. Fuck these clickbaity trash articles!
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u/sd0302 Jan 12 '22
Can you even consider it a “mostly white cast” when half the league isn’t white?
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u/Hot-Country2184 Jan 12 '22
Yeah trying to spin this as a repetition of a trope is a far reach, his role in zsjl was great
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u/c_a_l_c_u_l_o_n Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 12 '22
Yeah remember that one time it happened in Terminator 2? That's apparently what qualifies a trope now.
Even my usual ex Gawker witch hunter downvoters should agree its a reach lol
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u/Tarmac_Chris Jan 12 '22
I know it’s click bait but still such a weird take. ZSJL was genuinely one of the most progressive films in the genre and especially (!) in comparison to the 2016 version.
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u/blinkyretard Jan 12 '22
This article is stupid. But there’s no denying a fact that ZSJL was just an ordinary generic superhero movie. Feel free to downvote. I can understand that you being a fan wouldn’t like that just like MCU obsessed fans who criticize dc always without a merit. But I think every movie is someone’s favorite. But there are some which are okay and not progressive like ZSJL and some Marvel movies.
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u/AbdullaFTW Jan 12 '22
I mean the article is pure stupid, but lol nope, ZSJL is not most of anything and is nothing special at all.
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u/thefevertherage Jan 12 '22
Lol you can dislike the film if you want to but it absolutely a special movie
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u/alanpardewchristmas Jan 12 '22
I mean, objectively speaking, at the very least, it has the most runtime of a CBM?
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u/CanUSpeakEnglish Jan 12 '22
Damn it Silas, you didn't had to sacrifice yourself, you just had to be white to obtain white privilege, which shields you against communist Darkseid's forces /s
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u/KingKitttKat Jan 12 '22
If they wanted to make a point about the superhero cliche of losing one or both parents as part of your origin, I might buy into it a little. But the fact that they make it a point of race is ridiculous.
This post was a comparison to the Whedon cut, which notoriously cut or minimized plenty of POC roles from the movie. The actors and actresses that played Iris West, Victor's mother, and Ryan Choi were removed entirely from the movie. Joe Morrison and Ray Fisher had their roles cut down significantly.
This point has no legs to stand on whatsoever.
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u/Grand_Totality Jan 12 '22
What trope are they talking about? 😕
They mentioned one other movie (Terminator 2) and that was it. How is this a trope?
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u/beachsidevibe Jan 12 '22
Ridiculous interpretation. Superman sacrificed himself too in BvS and he's an alien.
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u/BloodyRedBats Jan 12 '22
OP, can you share the source? I want to know the full context of this article.
If this was actually about the fridging of women and POC in genre fiction, I sort of understand why this is being brought up. However this also reads a bit like a review where this exact remark can feel a bit out of focus if the review wasn’t also about that trope. The fact that they also used the actor’s character dying in Terminator 2 is a bit telling.
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u/mrmazzz Boomerang Jan 12 '22 edited Jan 12 '22
So what's the source and overall context of this screen cap? Because y'all are ripping it and all I see is a hyper decontextualized snippet that uses a recent movie and points out the concisous use of Joe Morton's star presence (you can like that he was in Terminator 2 but that comes with all the baggage intended and otherwise) and the history of Black representation (or well limited lack thereof tbh) within American popular culture. Like this is the most basics of genre critique to talk about the presentation of race.
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u/Nate996 Jan 12 '22
Here's your link its 10 reasons the theatrical cut is better than Snyders. I wouldn't consider this critique so much as a desperate attempt for traction in media
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u/mrmazzz Boomerang Jan 12 '22
Ah its a CBR listical, the core of their argument isn't wrong though. Like you can rip on the nature of that list and its overall content but their overall point makes sense.
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u/Nate996 Jan 12 '22
Each to their own, but a published article always has to remain unbiased. They fail at this spectacularly, rendering it less of a critique and more of a 'shit on Snyder and his fans' blog, if your article is this heavily opinionated, you don't have shit to say and clearly don't know how to articulate a structured review
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Jan 12 '22
Jesus Christ that quote was awful out of contacts but even worse when it’s being used to prove that the abomination Frankenstein version of a movie put together by a literal abuser is better than Snyders version because “it’s racist”
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u/c_a_l_c_u_l_o_n Jan 12 '22
It's evolved since the OG Gawker Disinformation team and the Twitter /Reddit pile on crew, and gone full Grift for Clicks.
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u/batmanexiled Do You Bleed? Jan 12 '22
*Cough* Danny Trejo, *Cough* Ned Stark/Boromir. This journalist needs to do their research.
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u/Lagiar Jan 12 '22
There are a lot of problem with synder's jla but Dr.stone sacrificing himself to save the world was not the problem
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u/Harm_123 Jan 12 '22
What…? The article is saying that Josstice League is better because one of the black people in the cast don’t die, while the thing is, Silas and Victor were pretty much the only blank people in the movie. They got rid of Iris, Victor’s mom and almost every other POC that had a substantial part. This was a great character moment for Silas and Victor.
Also, wasn’t whedon literally racist to fisher on set? Surely his movie is the least offensive of the two.
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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22
I see it more as a father sacrificing himself for his son, like Costner in MoS.