r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/ActualInstance2195 • 3d ago

Video Fascinating growth made by China!

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u/AgreeableMoose 2d ago

That’s so the children can get a good nights sleep before work tomorrow.

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u/Slarteeeebartfaster 2d ago

The propaganda that Americans are fed about China compared to other countries is really stark sometimes, China hasn't been in the worst 90 countries for Child labour for years... better than Mexico, Ukraine and Turkiye

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u/ghost4kill987 2d ago

Meanwhile, American states like Florida are desperately trying to fill the vacuum of immigrant labor with child labor

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u/CantoniaCustomsII 1d ago

Just give it 5 years and we'll start to see NGOs putting up pictures of abused American children to con Chinese people into donating to slush funds to fund white supremacist warlords lol.

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u/Virtual-Pension-991 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, it would be foreign/CN streamers posting with child labor(Edit: In the US) first. Times have changed.

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u/OkShower2299 2d ago

The child labor is immigrant child labor. What do you think a 15 year old from Guatemala or Chiapas who doesnt speak any English should do all day?

https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/OPA/newsreleases/2024/SOL2024252%20Fayette%20Janitorial.pdf

They come at this age to send money back home and help family with debt, they have to pay off narco coyotes or family back home may be murdered. Do you think it's better for them to come and they sit in classroom where 90 percent of them drop out and their Tios die?

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u/TheyCallHimJimbo 2d ago

The thing about Americans is that we are EXTREMELY susceptible to propaganda. We apparently always have been and it has seemingly been cultivated in us deliberately. It's the main thing we can't seem to shake loose. It would change our fate and the fate of the world if we could see through propaganda. But we cannot. And sometimes I think even if we could, we would refuse to. We like our propaganda. It's safe and tells us we are the best.

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u/ScoobyGDSTi 1d ago edited 1d ago

The whole US flags out the front of your homes, hand over heart for the national anthem, boarding veterans first on aircraft, it's embedded in your country. It's fucking nuts.

Here in Australia, people would think you're fucking weird hanging the Aussie flag outside of your house. We know what country we're in bro, we didn't just forget as we walked past your house. Or is it to show your patriotism? Mate, no one was questioning it, and how's a flag prove anything.. We are more likely to think you're a white supremist or nationalist than anything.

Hand over your heart for the national anthem? The Australian anthem has two verses, we don't even know the second half and don't even bother playing it at national events yet alone the Olympics. We just skip that whole verse, most of us couldn't even recall it's words. Hand over heart, not even our head of state does that yet alone kids at school assembly.

Veterans first to board? Yeah, we celebrate our armed forces twice a year on special anniversaries. How's boarding a plane relevant.

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u/Flashy_Ad_6345 2d ago

Americans like to laugh about how poor and pitiful the North Koreans are, but if you compare North Korea to the US, you guys are not much different.

  • Both countries have their leaders telling them they're the best when they're not
  • Both countries depend on propaganda to blind their citizens to the realities of life
  • Both countries have plenty of homelessness and drug users on the streets
  • Many people in both countries are broke and poor, only the elites are rich and well fed
  • Many people in both countries cannot afford to eat 3 meals a day
  • Both countries have no healthcare
  • Both countries have a terrible education system
  • The government in both countries have cults worshiping their leaders
  • Both country starve their citizens and go into debt because of militarisation
  • Both countries have a large population of slaves. One has the typical slave, the other had the population working 3-4 jobs just to survive, like a slave.

America is just a more modern NK with PlayStation and Nike shoes because the USD is the global currency. If not for the USD, any country would already collapse from being 37 trillion in debt

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u/MaximumChongus 2d ago

"Many people in both countries cannot afford to eat 3 meals a day"

Poor people in the US are obese.

Go spread your anti american lies elsewhere.

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u/Worth-Reputation3450 1d ago

Wow. How brainwashed should you be to think you can compare the US and the NK and find they're similar? I mean I understand a pro-China Malaysian to be brainwashed somewhat by Chinese propaganda but... this is just another level of idiocy.

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u/Monty_deVamp7430 2d ago

The USA was #1 fattest country right? How dare you come here and say they dont eat when even the poor are incredibly fat. Nice false equivalency fallacy😅

1 has people coming in to make money, the other has people that cannot even leave...?

We could argue the US is becoming more like North Korea, for sure, but most people, including the poor and jobless/homeless, have it better off than a large part of the world.

Most people struggling in the US is due to them being slaves to their desires. Debt debt debt debt debt debt debt. Work work work work work. The cycle continues and it seems like a lot are never satisfied and must keep climbing up, despite that bringing them misery.

You want 3-4 jobs to live in the city? Fo shooo homie. Go ahead.

Live within your means and don't be a lazy bum and most people can find happiness in the US. They still have this luxury but are unaware of the privilege . Despite the quality being turned into shit in front of everyone, but maga voter's, eyes.

Not there yet buddy!

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u/iwishiwasntthisway 2d ago edited 2d ago

America is the most propagandized country and its not close. Everything china or russia does is bad. Everything we fo wrong is their fault.

How dare russia invade ukraine as we plan to bomb yemen and invade iran!

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u/The_Breakfast_Dog 2d ago edited 11h ago

I mean, the US also doing bad things doesn't make invading Ukraine good.

Do you think dictators are fine, and villainizing them is propaganda?

I guess I get you mean to an extent, the US certainly white-washes its own mistakes. But there’s plenty of legitimately terrible things Russia and China have done as well.

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u/iwishiwasntthisway 2d ago

Maybe my point is we should fix our own shit first

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u/The_Breakfast_Dog 2d ago

Fair enough. Doesn't really seem like that's what you said.

And I don't really get why you would think that. If I'm critical of the US government, I can't also criticize other governments until the US government stops doing things I disapprove of? Why?

Anyway, it's absurd to say America is the most propagandized country.

Go walk around a public area in the US and ask people about slavery, our hand in foreign wars, why we invaded, Iraq, etc.

Then go to China and ask people about Tiananmen Square.

Again, not saying the US doesn't employ forms of propaganda. But to say it's "the most propagandized and it's not even close" is shockingly ignorant.

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u/iwishiwasntthisway 2d ago

You should watch the news then. There is so much manufactured cinsent here.

Ask anyone about communism or raising taxes. If you think americans arent propagandized you are living in an echo chamber. We are fucked by ignoramce and its by design.

Being critical of other governments is toothless when yours does the same exact thing tenfold over.

Russia is bad, sure... but how many countries has the US Invades this century?

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u/The_Breakfast_Dog 2d ago

Being critical of your own government is nearly always toothless as well. I personally can’t do much other than vote to change the policies and actions I disagree with.

I guess maybe this comparison makes sense if you focus on one thing. Like, it seems like you’re saying that you think it’s ridiculous for Americans to criticize Russia for Ukraine when America has also invaded countries.

But that’s not the only thing I can criticize Russia for. And my point is that saying the US is MORE propagandized is absurd.

For example, the current administration has been revoking press passes for news organizations they don’t consider friendly. But to my knowledge, the US government has never had a journalist killed.

The average American may not be a history buff, and there’s definitely differing opinions on matters of fact, but we can at least all agree that slavery happened in this country. Again, try going to China and asking people about Tiananmen Square. Many are literally unaware of the event that made it famous.

Again, I’m not disagreeing with your point that the US isn’t perfect. And I get what you’re saying to some extent with the “Clean your room before you try to change the world” thing. But yeah, saying the US is specifically the MOST propagandized is ridiculous.

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u/kerouak 2d ago

Youre 5 months out of date - Russia is good now in USA we've always been at war with Eurasia.

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u/Zozorrr 2d ago

You sound like someone who hasn’t travelled at all. America is nowhere near the most propagandized country - you sorta just disqualified yourself from the witness stand.

What a ridiculously naive thing to say lol. The propaganda in the US is child’s play compared to at least 15 countries I can think of. Get out around the world more - and try actually living in a few different countries. Your eyes will open (yes I have lived in multiple counties)

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u/iwishiwasntthisway 2d ago edited 2d ago

You sound like someone who thinks opinions are invalid unless someone is privileged enough to travel.

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u/TopMarionberry1149 2d ago

To be fair, Chinese school is sometimes even worse than american jobs. But yeah the other guy is clearly bad faith.

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u/MaximumChongus 2d ago

You are aware thats moose made a joke, right?

But please try to lecture us about the country that needs suicide nets at its factories

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u/Mercedes_560SEL 1d ago

Maybe not but they will take your company and make you disappear for 2 year in a reeducation camp.

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u/Big_Consideration493 2d ago

What's the source of those stats?

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u/Slarteeeebartfaster 2d ago

https://ilostat.ilo.org/topics/child-labour/

The IlOs data is her but honestly a better read is collated into a list on the Wikipedia page for child labour, however there is some good explanatroy information about child labour here. China will not be seen on the wiki list as it doesn't rank in the bottom 90 countries for child labour since 2019.

https://data.unicef.org/dv_index/

This tool ^ is amazing and can answer many of your questions about child labour, you can ask it the secondary school attendance rates for each country etc. Be aware that the child labour rates for China and many other countries have not been published for 2024 and its not worth downloading the stats for yet.

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u/Wolvesinthestreet 2d ago

Trust me bro

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u/Big_Consideration493 2d ago

In fact I checked out UNESCO and China has officially 0 child labour, but perhaps it's too low to be measured or the black market.

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u/Big_Consideration493 2d ago

Or perhaps China is a totalitarian state that lies " who'd have thought it" /s

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u/Electronic-Pick245 2d ago

Solid call out, as soon I see, “it’s not close”, everything has been discredited.

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u/Vibrant-Shadow 2d ago

Nothing compared to the propaganda fed to the Chinese about everything.

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u/NEEEEEEEEEEEET 2d ago

No children working, but ignore the suicide nets at foxconn

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u/Downtown_Ad2214 2d ago

Oh bless your heart if you think child labor isn't alive and well in the United States

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u/huhwaaaat 2d ago

Yep, just like how schools in america have lights so they can see who's shooting them before they die

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u/thefranklin2 2d ago

The children working dont live in those nice places.

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u/vanillagrass 2d ago

That’s right because they live in the United States

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u/Voltthrower69 2d ago

Yeah children built all that man

/s

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u/Voltthrower69 2d ago

You just can’t handle China is winning. This is the Chinese century bud.

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u/1ndr1dc01d0341 2d ago

Winning what human rights violations?

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u/Voltthrower69 2d ago

Yeah just not rapid industrialization in the last 30 years to becoming a global super power, leading renewable energy, and having one of the best electric vehicles on the planet. The American empire is on the decline because of the endless need to appease parasitic billionaires. Sad.

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u/Zozorrr 2d ago

China threw out a massive amount of its cultural and architectural heritage just to catch up - in 20 years time it will be seen as a reckless progress that unnecessarily destroyed much to gain

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u/CantoniaCustomsII 1d ago

In other news, Taiwan is about to shift form pride parades to weird evangelical shenanigans to appease the US.

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u/FSpursy 2d ago

now education is free and it's mandatory for kids to attend school until middle school. There's no incentive to send kids to work anymore when just sending them to school doesn't cost anything.

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u/ArScrap 2d ago

Not sure why that needs to be said, that's normally why you turn off lights yeah

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u/Yeboiretry 2d ago

wooosh

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u/Due-Memory-6957 2d ago

Read it again carefully

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u/ArScrap 2d ago

oh right, children, work, i get it, my bad.

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u/ManbadFerrara 2d ago

Goodness, you sure kicked a bees nest of Reddit China groupies with that remark.

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u/Zimakov 2h ago

Pointing out that something is blatantly false doesn't make someone a groupie

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u/ManbadFerrara 1h ago

Oh good, I guess this is purely Sinophobic lies then. What a relief.

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u/Zimakov 1h ago

This article is from nearly 20 years ago mate.

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u/ManbadFerrara 1h ago

Is that supposed to lead one to believe a significant change has taken place since that time? The late 2000s ain't the 1960s.

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u/Zimakov 1h ago

It's not supposed to lead one to believe anything, it's worthless.

It's like me talking about Apple releasing groundbreaking new tech then linking to the release of the first iPhone.

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u/ManbadFerrara 56m ago

"Worthless" is a strong word. Apple updates (boy, what an unfortunate analogy to use in regards to Chinese labor conditions) and human rights aren't an airtight comparison.

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u/Zimakov 40m ago

It's a strong word and the correct one. This article came out at the same time as the first ever iPhone. It's no longer relevant in any way, especially considering the entire theme of this thread is how quickly China has changed.

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u/ManbadFerrara 30m ago

Yeah, quickly changed since the 90s. You must be pretty young if you feel like the dawning of the Iphone till now is an expansion period of modern history.