r/DebateVaccines Jun 22 '21

Bitchute links are automatically removed by Reddit

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I manually approve removed posts and comments which contain Bitchute links but Reddit automatically removes them later. I don't know what I can do about that. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.


r/DebateVaccines May 10 '23

šŸ”¬ šŸ’‰Attention, fellow members of r/debatevaccines! šŸ’‰ šŸ”¬

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Let's clear the air: despite rumors, we, the mods, are not cyborgs šŸ¤–. We're volunteers who still enjoy a good old-fashioned stroll in the park and a decent night's sleep. We're dedicated to maintaining a fair environment, even when the antivax-to-vax ratio is more uneven than a seesaw with an elephant and a mouse. šŸ˜ šŸ

If we sometimes appear biased we're truly sorry. Reading every single post and comment is just not feasible.

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r/DebateVaccines 7h ago

Vitamin K

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I have made my choice on vaccines and that's a personal choice that I'll keep to myself. But I'm torn on the vitamin K. I know it can have harmful addititive but when they say oh your baby might bleed to death and put that fear in you it messes with your head. What are yells thoughts on it? Has anyone has a bad reaction with their baby giving it or not giving it?


r/DebateVaccines 21h ago

Government Misled Public on Thimerosal Link to Autism ā€˜for Decades,ā€™ Falsely Claims Itā€™s Been Removed From Vaccines

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r/DebateVaccines 1d ago

So grateful that my mom always encouraged me to never get the Gardasil vaccine šŸ˜¢ there's so many stories like this

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r/DebateVaccines 6h ago

CDC Poison Schedule

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ā€œI gathered all vaccine ingredients into a list and contacted Poison Control. After intros and such, and asking to speak with someone tenured and knowledgeable, this is the gist of that conversation."

CDC removed the orig file. wayback: https://web.archive.org/web/20180729150747/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf


r/DebateVaccines 1d ago

PEPTIDE COMMONALITY, IMMUNE ESCAPE, ADJUVANTED VACCINES AND AUTOIMMUNE CROSS-REACTIONS. A VICIOUS CIRCLE.

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PEPTIDE COMMONALITY, IMMUNE ESCAPE, ADJUVANTED VACCINES AND AUTOIMMUNE CROSS-REACTIONS. A VICIOUS CIRCLE.

As reasoned above and elsewhere (41-46, 48- 54), the existence of a widespread peptide commonality between microbes and humans might be a contributing factor in determining microbial immune escape. Consequently, it may also explain the fact that, in general, active vaccines based on antigens from infectious agents produce a weak (or no) immune response. That is, because of immunotolerogenic mechanisms towards repeatedly shared peptide motifs, the human immune system may fail to react against the infectious antigens present in the vaccines. In general, active vaccines are weakly immunogenic. This scarce vaccine immunogenicity has made the use of adjuvants necessary (73-76). Adjuvants include inorganic compounds (heavy metals, aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate, and calcium phosphate) (77,78), glycosphingolipid and oil emulsions (79), and products from bacteria (e.g., lipopolysaccharides and lectins) (80). In practice, adjuvants are highly heterogeneous chemical compounds, with the common property of stimulating immune responses.

On the other hand, adjuvant-induced hyperactivation of the immune system may alter/silence the still ill-defined tolerigenic mechanisms that keep the immune system under control and lead to the avoidance of harmful auto-attacks. Hence, as a logica consecutio, following adjuvanted vaccination, aspecific reactions may occur against host molecules/ structures because of the massive peptide matching between microbes and humans, thus starting autoimmune processes. The type of autoimmune phenomenon and disease that is eventually established will depend on the molecules and organs attacked. For example, attacks against myelin and myelinrelated structures/enzymes may evoke demyelinating diseases, whereas immune reactions against proteins and antigens involved in behavior and/or cognition (neurobeachin, adenosine deaminase, neuroligin, reelin, etc) may cause autism and behavior disorders. In other words, the peptidome platform shared by the antigens present in vaccines and the human host plays a fundamental role in dictating which autoimmune disease occurs following adjuvant-induced immunogenicity. In synthesis: peptide commonality, microbial immunoevasion, low efficacy of vaccines, adjuvant usage, and autoimmune cross-reactions may constitute a vicious circle leading to autoimmunity following vaccination.

  1. THE FUTURE OF VACCINES: THE CONCEPT OF SEQUENCE UNIQUENESS In the late 1700's, Edward Jenner introduced vaccination as a tool against infectious diseases. Infecting oneself with the infectious agent to avoid the disease became popular around the world. However, the practice of vaccination was soon under attack (81). Prominent scientists and philosophers such as Alfred Russell Wallace, Immanuel Kant, and Herbert Spencer, were involved in the critical debate against vaccination (82, 83). Then as today, the injuriousness of vaccination was under accuse. One statement was that phthisis, cancer, and madness are likely to be the products of vaccination since they increased in frequency after vaccination was introduced (84). Today, increased autism, childhood leukemia, and cardiac failure are listed among the potential consequences of vaccination. However, the anti-vaccine debate was and still is sterile (2, 81). No proof of a direct relationship between vaccination and adverse events has been brought to the attention of the scientific and medical communities, and the presumed vaccination-associated damages have been proposed and analyzed only in epidemiological, and often incomplete, terms. In this context, the present study represents the first clear-cut meta-analysis of a molecular platform able to rationalize the potential cause-effect link between vaccination and subsequent adverse events. The data discussed here delineate peptide commonality between microbes and humans as the Wallacian ā€œharmonia naturaeā€ protected by immunotolerance and broken by adjuvanted vaccine

https://www.imrpress.com/journal/FBS/4/4/10.2741/s341


r/DebateVaccines 1d ago

The Cult of the Microbe and the Origin of ā€˜Preventive Medicineā€™

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r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

According to VAERS, 38,000 deaths were associated with COVID-19 injections

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r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

mRNA Vaccines Linked to Genetic Changes That Can Cause Cancer, Autoimmune Disorders | A peer-reviewed study links the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines to long-term changes in genetic structures that can provoke an inflammatory response, and lead to the onset of cancer and autoimmune disorders.

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r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

Antoine BĆ©champ a Forgotten Genius

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ā€œHad it not been for the mass selling of vaccines, Pasteurā€™s germ theory of disease would have collapsed into obscurity.ā€

-E. Douglas Hume

ā€œ...the immunisation of the masses has been undertaken with almost a religious fervour. The enthusiast rarely stopped to wonder where it would all finish or whether the fulsome promises made to the public in the form of ā€œpropagandaā€ would ever be honoured. Without propaganda there can, of course, be no large-scale immunisation, but how perilous it is to mix up propaganda with scientific fact. If we baldly [in plain or basic language] told the whole truth it is doubtful whether the public would submit to immunization... Accidents and mistakes must inevitably happen and when they take place what might have been a highly instructive lesson is usually suppressed or distorted out of recognition. Those who have had to take detailed notice of the immunisation accidents of the past few years know that to get the truth of what really went wrong generally calls for the resources of something like the secret service.ā€

ā€” Dr. Charles Cyril Okell, professor of bacteriology at University College Hospital, London, 1939

Charles Cyril Okell, ā€œFrom a Bacteriological Back-Number,ā€ The Lancet, January 1, 1938, pp. 48ā€“49.


r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

Nearly 1 Million American Babies Received the Latest COVID-19 mRNA Booster Shot | CDC data reveal 9 million American childrenā€”including nearly 1 million babiesā€”have received the 2024-2025 COVID-19 booster shots, despite irrefutable evidence of serious harm.

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Opinion Piece Shill or obsessed? Is this normal behavior for a real person?

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We know Reddit has been used by shills and bots. This isnā€™t a conspiracy, itā€™s a documented fact.

Iā€™ve noticed users flooding this sub with suspicious post histories, flooding threads with eagerly insisting pro-vaccine takes and borderline manipulation. Often also very demeaning. And they almost exclusively only talk about how good and safe vaccines are.

I have analyzed some of these accounts and posted the dissected history. The topic only allows one picture so the rest is here:

https://imgur.com/a/fBKdlWI

Itā€™s not just the volume, but the content is also a bit off. Itā€™s always just some recycled, dull talking point. No imagination, no authenticity. Some of them feel plain robotic.

Itā€™s like theyā€™re playing a role, not having a conversation. Only talking about 1 thing and 1 thing only.

Are these people just hyper obsessed pro-vaxxers or is there something more organized going on?

If you are one of these accounts, you are welcome to reassure us that nothing is amiss.


r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

Why there's really a debate

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I think the reason there's a debate about vaccines in the first place, as opposed to other drugs/ medicines is because vaccines are mandatory!

You don't see people debating so much and so vehemently about any other medical procedure, maybe occasionally if there are side effects with some specific drug, but the key with vaccines is, simply, that they're mandatory. You actually need medical approval to get most drugs, but with vaccines, you need them for basic things like having kids go to school.

If they weren't mandatory, like they aren't in A LOT of countries, which have the highest rates of vaccination and no issues with outbreaks, this wouldn't be such a debate.

And I agree that vaccines are effective, safe and crucial for health, but come on, the issue here is clear. Mandating something makes some people wary of it, and others want to rebel against it.


r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

A Midwestern Doctor: Why Did The FDA Hide Vaccine Injuries? How Peter Marks' role in the COVID vaccine debacle exposed the flaws in America's toxic health bureaucracy

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

4-Year-Old Hospitalized Post Measles Infection Goes Home 36 Hours After Budesonide Treatment

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Mandates 140 years ago in Leicester, England, there was a mass demonstration against compulsory vaccination.

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ā€œThe thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.ā€ Ecclesiastes 1:9


r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

Adult Onset Still's Disease | And the vaccine DNA is Still there, yet no adults are to be found

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

At least 3% of adults and children experienced some degree of heart damage after mrna vaccination

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Some degree of heart injury is very common after covid vaccination.

Most studies don't look into but instead prefer to look at the problem from 1000 miles away.

2 studies that had the courage to take a closer look found that some degree of heart injury seems to be very common.

The symptoms of myocarditis include fatigue, chest pain, shortness of breath and palpitations. These symptoms are of course relatively common after covid vaccination but they also go along with some lab abnormalities.

In Switzerland it was found that in vaccinated adults 3% experienced some mild temporary heart injury according to biomarkers associated with heart cells injury. Other symptoms included Chest pain 8.1%, Palpitations 9.0% and Shortness of breath 3%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37470105/

In Thailand it was found that in vaccinated teenagers 2.5% had either myocarditis or subclinical myocarditis. 17% had ECG abnormalities.

Other symptoms included Tachycardia (7.64%), shortness of breath (6.64%), palpitation (4.32%), chest pain (4.32%),

Ā Cardiovascular manifestations were found in 29.24% of patients.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36006288/

The cardiac muscle canā€™t regenerate so itā€™s possible that frequent booster vaccinations could cause significant damage to the heart muscle.


r/DebateVaccines 2d ago

Is the Pfizer/BioNTech a DNA Vaccine? Or is the DNA required as an adjuvant? This is speculative discussion only.

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Opinion Piece We Can End the Autism Epidemic ā€” By Telling the Truth

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Any studies showing how many have the IgG4 subclass switch?

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My understanding from earlier studies was that everybody whose first exposure to spike protein was through an mRNA COVID vaccine and received one booster experienced the IgG4 subclass switch which was apparently permanent. The studies I saw were not so certain about those who received no boosters, and I don't remember any mention of the role of subsequent COVID infections. People who caught the COVID virus before receiving the mRNA vaccine were not switched, and people who received a non-mRNA vaccine as their first shot were not switched.

It would be interesting to draw blood from a random sample in various cohorts to estimate the number of people who have this IgG4 issue with its unknown consequences. Has such a study been done? It seems to me we might have 50% of the population switched to IgG4.


r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Small pox vaccination caused small pox. Covid-19 vaccination causes...?

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ā€œĀ£1,173 in 1873 would be around Ā£1.5M in todayā€™s money, or around $2m in average earnings valueā€


r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Smallpox Vaccines: Origins of Vaccine Madness

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r/DebateVaccines 3d ago

Tuberculosis ā€” An Exposure Of The Fallacy Of Inoculation As A Cure For The Disease

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r/DebateVaccines 4d ago

Scientists discover new part of the immune system

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This is why we should be more cautious with things like tricking cells into presenting spike proteins and using adjuvants to shock the immune system. We only know a fraction of information about the immune system. Even the smartest immunologists are naive.

Humans like to think that they have things figured out. Well the human immune system is incredibly complex and has gone through 2-3 million years of training.

Science struggles to study systems, often ignoring them all together. Instead, science generally observes things in isolation. This is how we fail to see cascading effects of drugs & synthetic chemicals. We rarely look.

Discoveries like this shouldnā€™t come as a surprise. We have a lot to learn about the immune system and how it interacts with other systems in our bodies.


r/DebateVaccines 4d ago

Prince Octavius of Great Britain

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