r/Detroit Feb 20 '25

Politics/Elections Buttigieg weighs a decision with huge implications for Democrats: Run for Senate or President?

https://apnews.com/article/buttigieg-democrats-michigan-senate-president-2026-2028-9be5c4c8e91437d6202b58c853bd8a08
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u/Plus-Emphasis-2194 Canton Township Feb 20 '25

Senate. He won’t win the presidency.

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u/I_Try_Again Feb 20 '25

Who will?

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u/Plus-Emphasis-2194 Canton Township Feb 20 '25

People will hold the fact he’s gay against him.

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u/luissanchez1 Feb 20 '25

A straight white Christian male will win the next election. Sad, but true. American politics are completely stacked against anyone that doesn't fit the mold. The last three elections prove it.

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u/malodyets1 Feb 20 '25

This. There’s no way the democrats run anyone other than a straight white dude

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u/Plus_Ultra_Yulfcwyn Feb 21 '25

For the love of god. I’m not a racist or bigot of any sort , but fuck the need for democrats to win the next election is so necessary. We all know that you need a straight white man to win so pick a straight white man to play.

I’m not saying this shit is fair but its the facts

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u/Yzerman19_ Feb 20 '25

They NEED to win.

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u/Mobile_Swordfish_371 Feb 21 '25

I felt this way about this election. Harris lost so many close states that unfortunately if it was a white male, we might not have this disgrace in the president office right now. This election was to important. Biden should of stepped down earlier so there would of been a democratic primary.

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u/Yzerman19_ Feb 21 '25

I have no doubt this vote was rigged. Elons kid pretty much says it was and so did Trump.

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u/Resident_Gas_9949 Feb 21 '25

Mark Cuban

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u/l5555l Feb 21 '25

No more billionaires for fucks sake

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u/TheFishtosser Feb 21 '25

And yet they’re gonna run Gretchen Whitmer

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u/SleezyD944 Feb 21 '25

Why wouldn’t democrats vote for a gay man?

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Feb 20 '25

I don't know if you've realized, but the people aren't big on diversity for diversity's sake. Lamenting how there won't be an unnamed LGBTQ POC simply because you are sick of straight white males is kinda exactly how we got to this point. Obama won because he brought something exciting to the table. Hilary and Harris lost because they brought labels that most people simply do not care about.

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u/Psychological_Ad1999 Feb 23 '25

Harris lost because Elon took over Twitter and had been steadily promoting all kinds of whack-a-do shit. The only path to victory is successfully countering misinformation, assuming we have free and fair elections

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u/Lyr_c Feb 20 '25

I’m betting it’ll either be J.B Pritzker or Gavin Newsom for the male Democrat nomination.. and that’s if Harris or Gretchen don’t win the primaries.

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u/luissanchez1 Feb 20 '25

JB is setting himself up now.

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u/SpartanJD01 Feb 21 '25

JB should get Ozempic, because American isn’t electing someone so visibly overweight. Trump somehow hides it

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u/warmheart1 Feb 21 '25

The same reason Chris Christie never had a chance for the Republican nomination.

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u/Appelcl Feb 22 '25

Oh but he's a billionaire. Double standard maybe?

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u/ceecee_50 Feb 20 '25

Please, no Gavin Newsom. JB Pritzker has a much better chance and can afford to fund his own campaign and lots of other Democrats campaigns (which he’s already been doing). I’d be very open to Gretchen as his veep, but there are others he could choose. Michelle Grisham from New Mexico is one.

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u/Jaded_Ad5486 Feb 20 '25

Yes, I pick JB too, my man ended up going up there and calling all this shit out. I haven’t seen other democrats other than Bernie, Jasmine, AOC and Warren do this. Newsom’s just been very quiet.

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u/derkadong Feb 20 '25

Yeah. Newsom has too many avenues for character assassination from his opponent. This kind of thing obviously doesn’t matter if you’re running red, but if you’re running blue it’s like you have to be perfect or a lot of dems won’t even vote. Politics in this country right now are like a boxing match in which one fighter’s hands are voluntarily tied to the ropes.

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u/semicoloradonative Feb 20 '25

JB is already coming out of the gate as the “anti-Trump”. It’s perfect with him being a Governor too as opposed to a Senator or Representative. JB has a bit of that “Illinois Gangster” in him too which is perfect to challenge Trump/Republicans.

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u/Plus-Emphasis-2194 Canton Township Feb 20 '25

To be honest I just can’t see America electing a woman at this time. Sad but I really believe it.

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u/TeacherPatti Feb 20 '25

I agree. It pains me to write that but we have to run a straight, white dude.

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u/BitterGas69 Feb 21 '25

Republicans will elect the first female president.

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u/Germs_Dean Feb 20 '25

I’m hoping for Pritzker. I personally like Mark Kelly from AZ but a lot of people don’t think he has the charisma to get elected President.

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u/Lyr_c Feb 20 '25

I agree: Pritzker has the charisma and he’s actually acting against Trump which will make him look good to democrats

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u/Yodasboy Feb 20 '25

He's already got the Mongols https://nomadsforpritzker.com/

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u/BenWallace04 Feb 20 '25

Ehhh….Kelly hasn’t made much noise about all the travesties currently occurring and has voted to appoint several of Trump’s circus to leadership roles.

He’s lost me since pre-ejection.

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u/CaraintheCold Macomb County Feb 21 '25

I like Mark Kelly a lot.

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u/HereForTOMT3 Feb 20 '25

Newsom would get absolutely slaughtered.

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u/Lost_In_Detroit Feb 20 '25

As much as I love what Whitmer has done for the state, she’s too “Midwest” to win over voters outside of that bubble. Plus the last time dems ran a female candidate it didn’t exactly work out too well (as much as I would love to see a female president in the future).

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u/VanillaBear321 Feb 20 '25

Isn’t that all she needs to win over tho? If she could carry MI/WA/PA while keeping the Harris states she’d win. Whether she can do that is questionable, I am also worried about people not voting for a woman. But it has nothing to do with her being too Midwest. I feel like that’d help her in purple states like GA and NC compared to Harris the Californian.

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u/Abe_lincolin Feb 20 '25

Harris has zero chance. She wouldn’t have even won the nomination in 2024 if she wasn’t coronated as nominee. Democrats are fucked if these 4 are their only hopes unfortunately.

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u/lakast Feb 20 '25

She wasn't coronated - no one else wanted to step in that late in the game. She did a phenomenal job with what she had. That being said? I has to be a straight, white male. Sadly, this country isn't ready for anything else.

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u/Tater72 Feb 20 '25

Gretchen could carry much more weight than Harris

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u/NuclearWinter_101 Feb 20 '25

lol if they run any of those 2 they really want to lose!

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u/PuzzleheadedBasis760 Feb 21 '25

They get paid win or lose

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u/apearlj1234 Feb 21 '25

JB PLEASE!

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u/l5555l Feb 21 '25

Gretchen? Whitmer? Come on

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u/Psychological_Ad1999 Feb 23 '25

I’m not convinced they will outperform Harris unless the Democrats figure out how to counter the Elon/X problem. The last election was decided because low information voters were getting a steady diet of misinformation for two years leading up to the election in ways that had previously been mitigated.

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u/zaxldaisy Feb 20 '25

A Republican woman will win the next election against a straight white male Democrat

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u/Waikika_Mukau Feb 21 '25

Americans will vote for a Democrat who understands working class issues. They won’t vote for a Democrat who is out of touch. I fucking hate that the last D candidate who connected with the middle class was a white man, and the last candidate who didn’t was a black woman. Because it convinced liberals that they were right all along to screech racism and sexism at everything instead of actually listening to people. Dems haven’t learned a damned thing.

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u/Photodan24 Feb 21 '25

This is what they should have done last time. Sometimes you have to hold your agenda to stay in the race.

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u/abstractraj Feb 20 '25

And preferably with a Latina wife to get that vote. Boy does the current climate suck when you have to think this way

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u/RanDuhMaxx Feb 21 '25

A Latina wife didn’t help Jen Bush.

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u/MiesterBoston Feb 20 '25

This is unequivocally untrue and if that is your takeaway from the last election you are not paying attention

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u/dealingwitholddata Feb 20 '25

Or maybe they prove people like to actually vote for their candidate and not have the DNC pick them. Go back one more election and, oh, gosh, turns out the electorate will elect someone who isn't a straight white male. 

The DNC railroading lame, unlikeable candidates and then crying 'bigotry' is a big part of how we got here.

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u/luissanchez1 Feb 20 '25

Perhaps. But if you think there is no bigotry involved I think you are too optimistic.

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u/SnepbeckSweg Feb 20 '25

Just because there is some involved doesn’t mean “we need a straight white guy because America is bigoted.” That same mentality continues to be used as an excuse instead of discussing the real contempt that people have for the establishment.

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u/luissanchez1 Feb 20 '25

That's a good point. However we need to win. I don't care if it's an insider or outsider but Democrats need to go with the best odds to stop the dismantling of Democracy. I don't think this is the time to prove a point. We are literally trying to stop an information systems coup.

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u/SnepbeckSweg Feb 20 '25

Prove a point? Good lord, how are we still doing this? It’s not proving a point to listen to the people and allow them to vote for candidates with real policy proposals. They have continued to hand pick candidates and squash dissenting voices, and they continue to think they can get away with it because “we’re not Trump” and “we’re literally trying to save democracy.” Then everyone stands around surprised when they lose.

Stop doing the work for them. Full stop. Democrats need to prove that they can field a candidate with grassroots support, and also prove that they can support and uplift that candidate. If they can’t do that, we need a new party, that’s all there is to it. That’s not to “prove a point”, it’s what’s necessary.

Same thing the uncommitted movement was saying last year at this time.. they need to do what’s necessary to gain support or they will continue to lose. That doesn’t come from a place of “I’m saying this to platform my own views and prove a point”, it’s saying “I and many others do not like this and will not vote for you if you continue operate this way.” It’s really simple, actually.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '25

Don’t forget old. Older than sliced bread apparently gets people to vote.

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u/Some_Comparison9 Feb 21 '25

What has Buttigieg done that has proven any merit towards any of these positions in government? Hes a seat-filler.

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u/MiserableSkill4 Feb 21 '25

Democrats don't learn their lessons. They will run Elizabeth Warren. If we even have another election

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 Feb 21 '25

You mean Biden? Biden was projected to lose worse than Harris.

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u/Psychological_Ad1999 Feb 23 '25

You are presuming we will have elections

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u/omgasnake Feb 20 '25

Or the myriad other concerns about his lack of experience? Half my family is from south bend, and no one has much good to say about his tenure.

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u/Kelor Feb 20 '25

Yeah, his history in South Bend gets forgotten but he tried to go back there to do a town hall in early days of the BLM protests and got chased out of the town hall by residents.

Some problematic racial stuff in his time there, including directly ignoring the black community when removing street crossings that resulted in a kid getting hit by a car exactly as he was warned.

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u/Justthetip74 Feb 21 '25

He was a single term mayor who lost to a candidate with "fix the roads" as his platform. Then became transportation secretary during a major transportation crisis, went on paternity leave for 3 month and no one noticed. He's a shoe in for a presidential run

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u/Remote_Preference Feb 21 '25

went on paternity leave for 3 month and no one noticed

You must live in a liberal bubble, Pete taking family leave like any decent father does was all people could talk about in more rural areas and on Fox/AM radio.

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u/Rambling_Michigander Feb 20 '25

I'd like to think that his employment with the blood suckers at McKinsey or the fact that every aspect of his public existence feels focus-tested and inauthentic would be enough to do him in

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u/Gullible_Toe9099 Feb 20 '25

People don't like that he is very robotic and doing sus things with the CIA.

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u/back_tees Feb 21 '25

No. Like Kamala people will hold his lack of competence against him. He was and is a failure. Its not racism or anti-gay. Its common sense.

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u/tylerfioritto Feb 21 '25

…or the fact that he used to work at an anti-union, anti-labor cost cutting firm? And he’s rich as hell?

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u/Abuses-Commas Feb 20 '25

I think they'd warm up to him on that over time

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u/Soggy_Competition614 Feb 21 '25

And not that the only political office he ran and won was mayor of south bend?

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u/Seared_Gibets Feb 21 '25

Buttgig doesn't suck for being gay, he sucks because he sucks.

But still, he should run for President anyways.

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u/Kryspo Feb 20 '25

Whoever MAGA runs if we don't deal with this situation by the next election.

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u/gorgeoff Feb 20 '25

JB Pritzker with a latino vice president

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u/maskoffcountbot Feb 20 '25

Anyone who runs on a left-wing economic populist platform

However, Dems will inevitably run a status quo moderate and get their asses handed to them yet again 

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u/justwantsomesnacks Feb 20 '25

Jeff Jackson. The AG for NC. He’s a reservist, was a congressman before gerrymandering redistricted him, and just won the NC AG spot. He does great spot on social media where he talks plainly and calls people out for stupid political shenanigans.

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u/MRguitarguy Feb 20 '25

Pritzker, assuming a fair election.

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u/AndoRGM Feb 21 '25

My guess is Tim Walz will be the frontrunner for democrats. Walz/Shapiro would be a strong ticket.

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u/stuarthannig Feb 21 '25

Why not Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear?

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u/queenblattaria Feb 21 '25

Another old white man

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u/mostoriginalname2 Feb 22 '25

Eric Swalwell, JB Pritzger, Jay Inslee, Gavin Newsom.

Basically some straight white guy. And he can’t come on too strong about the basic human rights stuff that everybody loves in Europe.

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u/DrakeAU Feb 24 '25

Waltz has a shot.

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u/Bad_Wizardry Feb 25 '25

Trump, unfortunately.

Even if he croaked, they’d parade him around Weekend at Bernie’s style and employ a body double. Lucky for them, America is full of obese balding men. Finding a double should only require some excessive bronzer and a shitty weave.

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u/I_Try_Again Feb 25 '25

I believe that to be true.

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u/BussyPlaster Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

Obama won twice, in a row, that's not an anomaly. It's really simple. Run a good campaign and you will win. Shill for corporate interests and you will lose.

Oh also Harris literally only had two months to campaign so using her as a litmus test is actually borderline re!$÷"÷d.

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u/DoodleDew Feb 20 '25

Pete is the embodiment of a corporate shill and past has shown he can’t lead 

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u/BussyPlaster Feb 20 '25

Pete is the embodiment of a corporate shill

I disagree, but what's that make Donald?

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u/DoodleDew Feb 20 '25

He sucks, but Pete represents what a lot of people in the Dem party hate about the party. They can’t run him and expect to win 

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u/BussyPlaster Feb 20 '25

Pete represents what a lot of people in the Dem party hate about the party.

Which is? You haven't expanded on your position at all. Democrats love him. There I will state this as fact and my word carries as much weight as yours.

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u/lateblueheron Feb 21 '25

Obama himself is an anomaly my friend

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u/zdog234 Feb 21 '25

Is Gary Peters retiring? I'd vote for Butiegieg in a heartbeat, but is a Senate primary upset possible?

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u/japinard Feb 20 '25

Sadly it’s true. Will never get enough votes because he’s gay. Hate runs strong in this country.

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u/TorkBombs Feb 20 '25

Wouldn't count him out. He's the most effective communicator the party has seen since Obama. I agree he should run for senator first and continue piling up meaningful experience

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u/cruzweb Former Detroiter Feb 20 '25

I agree entirely. Cabinet positions are very low profile and it's hard to point to a track record of success without getting into wonky details. It's hard to explain "This is what I'll do for you, and can prove it because I've done X, Y, and Z in the past". The last time someone went from cabinet to presidency was Hoover in 1928, and as Secretary of Commerce was is the only cabinet member to be elected who wasn't Secretary of State or War. Even controlling for all other factors like his name recognition and sexuality, I don't see him making the case to get through a primary. It'll be another Andrew Yang style campaign with a small, vocal group of people trying to over explain policy and the rest of the electorate saying "this candidate is jut not that exciting".

Senate still has a lot of the same pitfalls, but Senate has a much lower barrier to entry and can set him up nicely to run later

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u/myssxtaken Feb 20 '25

Sadly I believe you are right.

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u/4runninglife Feb 21 '25

He won't win the Senate either, not in Michigan anyway.

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u/DanishWonder Feb 22 '25

He also would benefit from the experience as a Senator. Too many people just see him as the mayor despite his last role. Get in the Senate, help Dems there and get some experience. He is young enough to go for the presidency in 2032.

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u/Theskyisfalling_77 Feb 22 '25

He is ABSOLUTELY the most qualified candidate in over a decade but I agree that he won’t win. This country is too bigoted to elect an (openly) gay man.

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u/CanYouHearMeSatan Feb 20 '25

Senate is the best choice for America. There are others (Whitmer, Moore, Beshear) that have already won statewide and Buttigieg hasn’t.

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u/CloudsTasteGeometric Feb 21 '25

He'd be a good Senator but after Clinton and Harris I don't like Whitmer's chances if she throws her hat in for president.

Too many Americans have proven time and again that they "aren't ready" for a woman as president, even if they're obviously the better candidate.

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u/recursing_noether Feb 21 '25

The DNC tried to shove Hillary and Kamala down our throats. Lets not pretend they were ever widely popular among Democrats. If a female wins a REAL DNC primary she will have as a good a shot as any at winning.

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u/campindan Feb 22 '25

Joe Biden shoved Kamala down our throats, by all accounts the DNC was ready for a competitive convention.

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u/bbtom78 Transplanted Feb 20 '25

I'll take him as a Senator.

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u/hamburglord Feb 21 '25

"the best choice for america" lmao what

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u/Brother_Syne Feb 20 '25

I'd vote for him for anything, but I'm afraid he'll get destroyed if he tries for President through no fault of his own. Senator or governor would suit him I think

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u/XXFFTT Feb 20 '25

He could get a divorce and have someone be his beard.

Then all he needs to do is say that he helped remove chemicals in the public water supply that turn people gay.

He's the straightest, some are saying.

/s

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u/crunchyfoliage Feb 21 '25

Really hoping he runs for Gary Peters' Senate seat and Dana Nessel runs for Governor

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u/inconsistent3 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

Senate. He cannot win the presidency in this environment.

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u/mabhatter Feb 20 '25

Senate would be a wise choice.  Michigan would like him, he could be an influential Senator for Democratic causes.    If another Democratic administration comes around he could participate.   He's really young... he could wait 20 more years and still be younger than current candidates. 

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u/eoswald Feb 20 '25

how about just a house seat. pete has won nothing and being gay and < 50 doesn't mean you are progressive

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u/BakedMitten Feb 21 '25

Exactly. He is represented by a Republican in Congress. How about he sets his sights there first.

The only election he has ever won was for the mayor's office of a smallish college town and he was pretty disliked by his constituents when he was done in that role.

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u/MalcoveMagnesia Elijah McCoy Feb 21 '25

Failing upwards is a thing in the Democratic party; it worked for Kamala, it can work for Mayo Pete too.

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u/PuzzleheadedBasis760 Feb 20 '25

We need less corporate cronies in the dem party. If they want to win give us something to vote for instead of everything’s fine the way it is while they tack to the right.

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u/Godunman Feb 20 '25

President because he wouldn’t make it out of the primary

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u/apearlj1234 Feb 21 '25

Thought he was thinking governor?

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u/BakedMitten Feb 21 '25

His people saw how poorly that was going to go for him so they started looking for other races

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u/l5555l Feb 21 '25

This is a joke right. Who in their right mind thinks this guy has any chance at president? He absolutely blew his opportunity on bidens cabinet.

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u/BlackRadius360 Feb 20 '25

I don't understand what Buttigieg brings to the table... I would never vote for him as Governor over Mike Duggan. He's not presidential material. I'm leaning conservative for Senate next year.

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u/dopescopemusic Feb 21 '25

He will never win as president.

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u/KhansKhack Feb 21 '25

President. LOL.

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u/leafssuck69 Feb 20 '25

Buttigieg won’t win the senate race if he gets nominated. He’ll overperform along the Lake Michigan shore and Grand Rapids area, sure. But he’s gonna severely underperform in Metro Detroit, Flint, and Saginaw, exceptions being Royal Oak and Ferndale. The rest of the metro area will likely not look favorably on his character; brace yourselves for 90/10 margins in Dearborn and Hamtramck, seriously, and it’s not just those communities that will either vote against or abstain from voting all together.

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u/michiganbikes Michigan Feb 20 '25

I’d vote for him for president, but unfortunately I don’t think he’d win. However, as a Michigander, I’d love him as our governor or senator!!

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u/rysker6 Feb 20 '25

He’d be a great president, but this election showed we still have a LONG way to go sadly as a country. Him as a senator would be great tho

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u/Appropriate-Rush6341 Feb 20 '25

Andy beshear outta Kentucky would be a better choice

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u/ParisDrakkarNoir Feb 21 '25

Hopefully he runs for neither.

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u/pgherg1 Feb 20 '25

He has an impressive resume. To be honest though I’d really prefer someone who has spent a lot more time in Michigan than he has.

He moved here in 2022 and then spent most of the time since in DC. Some people argue South Bend is so close to Michigan it doesn’t matter, but it just doesn’t sit right with me.

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u/debtRiot Feb 21 '25

I think a lot of people gonna feel the same. I think he’s got a tough road ahead for any office in Michigan. His name recognition will prob take him far tho.

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u/abbott_costello Feb 20 '25

Neither please!

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u/BakedMitten Feb 21 '25

If anything he needs to run for Congress. He's in a Republican district and flipping it would be much more impressive than anything else he has done in his political career

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u/blueman758 Feb 20 '25

He couldn't even beat Ted Cruz

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u/waitinonit Feb 21 '25

Not a bad writeup until the point about the purported dangers of living in Traverse City.

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u/Mignonette-books Feb 21 '25

Pete should run for Senate first and prove himself then President.

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u/GeneralZog77 Feb 21 '25

Beta boy needs to run back to south bend

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u/Shumngle Feb 21 '25

Thank fuck I left Michigan if this is the shit you guys are trying to pull

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u/Some_Comparison9 Feb 21 '25

Absolutely not. Horrible Idea. Please do not.

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u/Some_Comparison9 Feb 21 '25

Pete Buttigieg, after the last four years, thinks he has the credentials and potential to A) win a presidential election and B) be a President. The delusional entitlement of some of these muppets know no bounds. Hes nothing more than a seat-filler. He needs to quietly disappear.

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u/somanysheep Feb 21 '25

Senate, too many bigots to win POTUS. That & The GOP cheats so any "minority" group will be easier to say, "SEE, we're not ready for a female or LGBTQ President."

We need a Sheldon Whitehouse type Cis, White, Male who is a good man & ally to ALL Americans!

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u/AquaBun777 Feb 21 '25

Neither. Does anybody actually want him?

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u/HaikuKeyMonster East Side Feb 21 '25

He should sit down. He is a feckless bureaucrat. Look up the scandal of him in Indiana with people of color. Not great.

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u/Gullible_Banana387 Feb 21 '25

Coming from the guy running the Secretary of Transportation, who took paternity leave during the pandemic. He left the job while the world was in fire. Useless, same as Cruz who was enjoying the beach in Mexico while people were dying in Texas due to the snow storm and lack of power.

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u/BoutThatLife57 Feb 20 '25

Nah it’s over for him

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u/UltraNuclearMAGADad Feb 20 '25

This dumbass has no ties to Michigan. He failed his duties spectacularly in the Biden administration, and now he thinks the good people of Michigan will send him to DC? Oh hell no! Send his ass back to South Bend.

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u/irazzleandazzle Feb 20 '25

Definitely senate.

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u/MalcoveMagnesia Elijah McCoy Feb 20 '25

This isn't Detroit related in any way, but would certainly suit the politics junkies over at /r/michigan

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u/Cheap_Collar2419 Feb 20 '25

We need more good people in senate.

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u/PLAkilledmygrandma Feb 22 '25

Please just stay home. The last thing this country needs is another McKinsey consultant ghoul created in the DNC moron factory.

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u/tylerfioritto Feb 21 '25

Keep him away from our state. I don’t trust him one bit. He’s everything that’s wrong with the Democratic party

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u/Envyforme Feb 20 '25

He'd do better against Trump than Kamala or Clinton. Much stronger candidate than those two

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Feb 20 '25

Lol neither. You don't represent Michigan after living here for 15 minutes and you'll never win the presidency being gay. But I guess Senate is better than Governor... I really don't want him there. This isn't a stepping-stone job.

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u/SlightlySublimated Feb 20 '25

An openly gay man will never win the presidency in this country. Sorry to say, but it's true. 

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u/papertigers27 Cass Corridor Feb 20 '25

A gay man will win the presidency before a woman does.

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u/BreweryStoner Feb 20 '25

That’s what they said about a black man. I don’t think it would happen any time soon though.

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u/eoswald Feb 20 '25

right but even if he was not gay pete is not very popular. has he ever won a statewide election before? a democratic primary?

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u/BakedMitten Feb 21 '25

He was declared the winner of the highly suspicious Iowa caucus. That was the high point of his presidential campaign. The only race he has won is the mayor race in South Bend.

If Democrats are pinning their hopes on him we are screwed until 2032 at the earliest

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u/Krunked_Chimera Feb 20 '25

He needs to be a senator first. Build a reputation that ppl can rally around before running for the big one

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u/x_xwolf Feb 20 '25

He can run but i hope he doesnt think that he wont be going up against trump a 3rd time

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u/Coletrayne Feb 20 '25

Senate. No way in h*ll he wins presidency in this country

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u/Arkvoodle42 Feb 20 '25

the fact that he's still stupid enough to think there will be elections anymore proves how unfit he is.

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u/thatpj Feb 21 '25

why not both?

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u/xenonwarrior666 Feb 21 '25

Like it or not a straight white male preferably someone with all their real teeth and most of their hair is what's needed. Preferably a combat vet not someone who "embellished" their achievements.

No running on diversity.

Just meat and potatoes fixing what Trump fucked up.

We learned that the threads that hold liberals together are tenuous at best.

Trying to reinvent the wheel is doomed to fail.

That's if we even get another election.

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u/parallel_trees Feb 21 '25

neither, please, he seems like a fine enough human being but he’s another empty suit corporate democrat

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u/ScentientReclaim Feb 21 '25

why not both?

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u/DicamVeritatem Feb 21 '25

Sure, nominate him, watch Vance roll up 400 EV’s.

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u/TreedomForAll369 Detroit Feb 21 '25

I will not be voting for any democrat if they aren't progressive (universal healthcare, ending the drug war, subsidy reform) at this point. I haven't heard many progressive things from Pete and he was part of the coalition that fucked Bernie in 2020. So I'll pass on any role for him unless I hear otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '25

Senate. Dems need someone who says it like it is and isn't afraid to get into a fight.

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u/toomuchhp Feb 21 '25

President!

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u/RueTabegga Feb 21 '25

Is bold to assume he won’t be locked up in a camp come the next election. It’s also bold to assume we will ever see another election that isn’t rigged 100% in favor of MAGAts.

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u/wranglero2 Feb 22 '25

Senate he Klein

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u/jamesdpitley Feb 22 '25

No, and also, no.

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u/CheckHour1722 Feb 22 '25

Assuming we have elections in 4 years? Bleh

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

How about go away? I don’t want any of the losers that ran in the last 4-8 years to try again.

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u/IAmASimulation Feb 22 '25

He would probably make an amazing President but if this country isn’t ready for a woman President, it certainly isn’t ready for a gay President.

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u/Kalesacove Feb 24 '25

Buttigieg is smooth, warm and smart. Ask first if he can connect to the voting people. I think he’s provocative but is his personality big enough? That’s more important than his sexual orientation.

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u/conservative89436 Feb 24 '25

Please Petey. Run for President

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u/Least-Pol-1234 Feb 25 '25

He is super smart. Too bad America is not ready yet to vote for anyone but a heterosexual man for president. Can you imagine what his family would go through?

Maybe do run for senator. And who knows, maybe it’s ok to run for president 2 years later.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Duckworth/Walz 2028