he always seemed like such a good guy, i feel inherently good about new age guru types, and there's never any scandals involving them. i felt particularly good about rb ever since him and jonathan ross made that god awful drenched in sexism phonecall. and i've definitely always felt new agers convinced brand was The One had objectively fantastic judgment. esp as he opens his mouth and hot air clad in fancy wordings comes out.
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in fairness, i'm sure there's lots of abusers i fail to twig too, and i do not think folk should have had to magically know rb was a rapist. (like, say, i had some misgivings about gaiman, based on his writing, some of which i otherwise liked, but i didn't somehow magically know he was a rapist til that detail emerged).
Interesting about Gaiman. What specifically in his writing? There's some scenes in Sandman which really gave me the ick, the diner scene specifically, and I remember saying that in a comment on Reddit before the Gaiman stuff came and I got laughed at for not realising that was the point. Looking at that back, maybe those signs were there. Also, the scene where it describes how Laura Moon died I guess as well.
He's basically the villain of Calliope, especially the version from the Netflix Sandman; it's like he updated the story to be more in line with his specific MO
i don't like the diner scene, but i'm not a horror fan. i don't think i'd innately assume too much from it. for me, one thing that gave me questions is his writing of goddesses (american gods). he does some of them in a very specific male gaze-y kind of way: conventionally beautiful, sexy, meant to appeal to men and be everso fuckable. it's ages since i've read it so i may not be explaining that well. but it was enough to give me pause. i started particularly going off him after the skye debacle (i hadn't ever paid huge amounts of attention to him as a person before that). and then the rest came to light.
i do now see him like one of the villains in his own writing. he's the wolf in the forest, dressed up like a harmless grandmother, and amanda palmer was leading women to his tastes to him.
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u/Aggravating_Boot_190 New User 2d ago
he always seemed like such a good guy, i feel inherently good about new age guru types, and there's never any scandals involving them. i felt particularly good about rb ever since him and jonathan ross made that god awful drenched in sexism phonecall. and i've definitely always felt new agers convinced brand was The One had objectively fantastic judgment. esp as he opens his mouth and hot air clad in fancy wordings comes out.
/s/
in fairness, i'm sure there's lots of abusers i fail to twig too, and i do not think folk should have had to magically know rb was a rapist. (like, say, i had some misgivings about gaiman, based on his writing, some of which i otherwise liked, but i didn't somehow magically know he was a rapist til that detail emerged).