We have a right that our tax dollars protect us. Part of that is available, affordable healthcare. Just like every other country provides its citizens and they consider that a right. Tough titties if you disagree.
For the bulk of us, we very much can not get the treatment at that point. That's pretty much, ya' know, the point of the post.
There's also plenty of cases where what you state simply isn't true. I just watched my mother-in-law get discharged from hospital despite her doctor wanting to keep her for another 48 hours. Insurance didn't want to pay for that, so hospital admins made the decision to discharge her. Doctors didn't.
Well in that case, you just had a shitty doctor. No one can discharge patients except physicians. Admin can pressure physicians, but ultimately they make the decision.
Doctor was very good, actually. If he would have thought she would have died, sure, we would have stayed. How long do you think doctors that repeatedly clash with admins stay around?
You won’t even address the first point. You’re clueless.
You sure don’t sound like you are based on your previous comments and I have zero faith that you have the experience dealing with hospital admin to state that as fact.
Something cannot be a “right“ if it requires other people to make it happen.
Again, you're inventing a definition of human rights much of the rest of the world doesn't agree with.
How is the right to healthcare protected if there are no doctors and nurses?
Again, believing something is a "human right" doesn't really change anything. Perhaps you're confusing human rights with legal rights? Regardless, if there were no doctors and nurses society would be failing to provide those rights. Just as they sometimes fail to protect (or even acknowledge) negative rights you might believe in.
And? Society can absolutely pay people to provide healthcare. My girlfriend is a public defender. That is a Constitutionally protected right in the US. Society pays her to provide that right. My ex wife is a public school teacher in a state that has Constitutionally protected primary education. She is paid to provide that right. I don't think you understand how any of this works.
Nope, only trained individuals can provide healthcare. I should’ve stated individuals instead of people. My point is in order to have healthcare, you require something not of society, but of individuals who have trained to provide that healthcare. At what point does the right of the person to receive healthcare trump the rights of individuals to choose whether or not to provide that healthcare? Can the government force individuals to provide healthcare?
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u/DangersoulyPassive 2d ago
We have a right that our tax dollars protect us. Part of that is available, affordable healthcare. Just like every other country provides its citizens and they consider that a right. Tough titties if you disagree.