Some of the comments here are wild. People calling him war criminal and genocide Joe as they support a president that's about to ethnically cleanse an area of the world so it can be turned into a beach resort.
Are there no other positions? I don't support Trump, I am a real person, and I think Biden should be on trial in the Hague. Can you tell me why I'm wrong?
I actually think the current system is good enough. You can only think in two perspectives or be an outcast (independent). Imagine giving this country a third viewpoint and see how fractured we would be.
You're correct. Unfortunately people believe one side is correct universally. Sinole fact is there's evil on both sides and horrendous evil has come from their actions.
Thanks for the support. I find myself really concerned about just how hard the party is working to discipline dissenting voices on Reddit. I dream of a Democratic Party that fights republicans as hard as they fight the left.
I suspect that learning the lesson is out of the question. Not learning the lesson but still ”fighting the fight” is very lucrative. Standing up for actual working class people of all sorts somehow isn’t appealing to the party.
a lot of them are neither. a lot of them are "leftists" who are just as ill informed as the far right, albeit with better intentions. I'm surrounded by them where I live.
yeah, that's my thing too. He had some significant flaws. He was not the best president. But so far in my lifetime, the only presidents I remember are Obama, trump, and Biden—a little bit of Bush. Biden was the second best. Trump was the worst, and it's not even close.n
I am sorry, but you literally cannot talk. Trump pardoned Jan 6ers. Some of them literally were on video assaulting police officers. Please get educated. Do I agree with his pardon? Heck no, if it was for me, I don't think that presidential pardons should exist. But to say that Biden and trumps pardons were on the same level is just not a sentient opinion
Please tell me how Jan 6ers were not directly connected to Trump. Were they not his supporters? You can go ahead, try hard, and come up with an answer. Can you do it, bud, huh? I can admit that what Biden did was objectively bad. I already did. I can acknowledge that when a leader does something terrible, can you? I like to give them accountability. And before you respond, or even if you can reply, I want you to remember that defending any politician on everything is the stupidest thing you can do. You cannot justify a president who pardons people who assault police officers or harm government property. But if you want to make yourself look like an idiot, go ahead.
You remind me of the flat earth guys. They just shout nonsense conspiracy theories and are totally out of touch with reality.
Did you catch the story where Russian spies are confirming Trump is a Russian asset?
Exactly. Not everyone who criticises such actions supports the “other guy”. And not everyone is from the US. We can just call out both guys for what is going on in Israel. Since we voted for none of them and they are both letting it happen.
Genocide Joe is how he will be known globally. US Citizens who can't connect the realities can fawn over him if they want. We won't. That's okay. The Global South is Palestine. We will give the same cynical sympathy we received.
Frfr, Obama was such a good president because he could hit 3-pointers, probably what he was trying to do with these drones too, because basket is WORLDWIDE 🤝🌎🌍🌏🤝
The options on the table were support Biden and the status quo that's been going on for the greater part of a century continues for another 4 years or don't support him and Trump ends the status quo by performing an ethnic cleansing and taking ownership of the land permanently.
You're a clown if you think the former is genocidal and the latter is the same thing. I swear you care people care more about labels than the lives that are suffering.
Ahh yes the US personally led a decades long ethnic cleansing that somehow doubled? the population of Palestine over the last 30 years.
People like you are sick in the head. You mock the brutality and pain of real genocide (what Trump has proposed by turning all of Palestine into a parking lot) by applying it to any and every action you dislike EXCEPT when it actually applies.
My reply was directly to someone defending calling the subject in the OP a genocider and I'm explaining there's an obvious difference between what he did and what real genocide looks like.
If you don't like the subject take it up with the person that made that disgusting post. I was quite happy before I saw it.
Oh fuck off - any other half decent President would have stopped the slaughter in Gaza. Shame on Joe Biden for choosing genocide over beating Donald Trump.
He can be genocide joe and trump can be a dangerous fool. Calling him genocide joe doesn’t mean you support trump, it’s acknowledging his role in the genocide, not supporting someone else.
Hey, I'm a real person. His support for genocide ABSOLUTELY meets criteria for war crimes. I can say that and also not support Trump. There's not cognitive dissonance here.
Most of reddit is stuck in a neoliberal circlejerk when it comes to Palestine. Biden and the Democrats objectively funded and enabled one of the worst war crimes this century. What Israel is doing with weapons from the US is the definition of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Pointing out anything to do with this obvious fact on most of the common subreddits gets downvotes and accusations of supporting trump, every time. There's no reasoning with centrists/liberals, ironically because they can't handle the cognitive dissonance of their "party" being morally wrong.
Could you please elaborate on how president donald trump is starting a genocide to ethnically cleanse an area of the world so it can be turned into a beach resort?
Funny thing is that once Trump became president, the fighting stopped. And once he made the Gaza comments, Egypt and Jordan scrambled into action trying to find a solution themselves. Trump's mayhem energizes people. Biden kept trying to split the difference between the two and thousands died.
Did you know? Multiple people across party lines can encourage war crimes and genocide! Once we confront that, maybe we can start wondering why every elected leader we have supports genocide.
I'd say the worst thing this world has done was make POTUS exempt from war crime charges.
But I'd also be a bit retrospect with that comment.
Fresh off WW2, the standard of POTUS was FDR - I don't think the idea that the US would take a turn into committing atrocity after atrocity was on anyone's mind - ironically the string of war crimes started pretty quickly there after (Truman/Vietnam onward)
Who is supporting him, fuck Reddit is brain dead I swear. If trump is in a position to talk about ethic cleansing it’s because Biden fucking helped bibi arrive bring Gaza to the point of utter destruction. And yes helped, those are American weapons that killed 10s of thousands of innocent Palestinians and leveled Gaza to the ground
You can be against both. You are in fact the one with cognitive dissonance if you think his administration arming, funding, and running propaganda for a genocide is okay.
Being vehemently anti genocide does not make you a Trump supporter.
Huh? Both can be true. Genocide Joe followed by more genocide by Trump. Wheres the cognitive dissonance? Isnt it on your end? You recognize ethnic cleansing when Trump does it but wont recognize it when Biden did it? Isnt it weird how you cant be consistent on principles here?
edit: Aww did the cognitive dissonance make you downvote me? Does it hurt?
The ones who support Trump are the broken clocks who are right twice a day.
Democrats just don't want to accept that unilaterally denouncing genocidal parties is the right thing to do, actually, and they think they can justify their part in the genocide by pretending that only Trump supporters would be opposed to it.
getting the Gazans out is a gift to humanity. They are hostile and they will end up killing thousands of their own ppl by continuously starting wars they cant win.
Sounds like something every spineless politician was planning on supporting. The current lesser of two evils is still under the thumb of Israel, just like the rest of the west.
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u/BecomingJudasnMyMind Feb 21 '25
Some of the comments here are wild. People calling him war criminal and genocide Joe as they support a president that's about to ethnically cleanse an area of the world so it can be turned into a beach resort.
The cognitive dissonance is unreal.