r/MadeMeSmile 1d ago

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u/hsifuevwivd 1d ago

You understand that the manager is not solely responsible for promotions, right? Companies have policies in place set by HR and managers have budgets. That's why it's easier to find a new job that pays more instead of relying on where you currently work.

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u/Asangkt358 1d ago

I've spent 40 years working in large and small corporations. Not once have I ever seen a company where HR makes promotion decisions or an HR policy that would provide for HR to make such a decision.

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u/hsifuevwivd 1d ago

I've worked in many companies where promotion requests are sent to HR for approval. Also, HR generally implements salary ranges. Also, HR has certain policies in place e.g. when promotions can happen, the percentage a salary can be increased by, etc. Managers work closely with HR to come up with salary and job specs. Managers are not solely responsible for your promotion or pay rise.

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u/WhatDoesOneKnow 1d ago edited 22h ago

^this

I work in the tech industry. I am a manager of my team / department for my product(s). I can't do shit when it comes to promotions. I am not actually paying those people. My stakeholders (product owners) do - and they do it only by proxy, too.

I can talk to my stakeholder and tell them I want to plan in more budget because I want to give a raise. They might agree.

The people who actually pay (the C-Suite), sure as fuck won't have to agree. HR, and parts of the C-Suite have HR functions for this very reason, has ALL the salary data. They have to approve it, considering things like "is it fair towards others in same positions?" or "do we (the company) really want to spend that money? Do we think it's worth it?" etc.

HR will also conduct surveys with other colleagues to get a better picture of the situation, talk to all neccessary stakeholders in this regard etc.

Maybe /u/Asangkt358, depsite having 40 years of work experience, never actually made it to any "significant" position to learn how the company actually operates in the background.

Only because a manager wants to give you a raise, doesn't mean that they are giving you the raise. It's NOT their money.