Way to go South Korea!

[u/dittidot]

[u/ExtremestUsername]

But the courts already decleared that nothing he does while in office can get him arrested.

He's immune.

He could literally have Congress killed and it would be legal.

The American system has spent 200 years centralizing power into just one position.

If he would ignore the election, who is responsible for removing him? So far you seem to have relied exclusively on the idea that power will transfer peacefully by the president stepping down.

The Senate even confirmed last time that leading an attack on Congress was not a abuse of power.

[u/OratioFidelis → u/ExtremestUsername]

He doesn't have to agree to step down, according to the Constitution he ceases being president on inauguration day unless he's been certified by the electoral college. Which again comes down to having military support to suspend the Constitution, which he probably won't have after four years of turning the economy into a smoldering crater and other scandals.

[u/ExtremestUsername → u/OratioFidelis]

I hope the people in power who have everything to gain by not sharing your interpretation of the transfer of power shares your interpretation of the transfer of power.

Best of luck to you.

[u/OratioFidelis → u/ExtremestUsername]

So why didn't the January 6 insurrection work, if that's the case?

[u/Donquers → u/OratioFidelis]

Because he didn't have enough loyalists on his side at the time. Now he does.

You've all been conditioned to believe that "because democracy," the system and all the corruption in it will always just work itself out. That evil people can be in power and it's fine because "checks and balances," and "no one will let that happen."

You are deluded.

[u/OratioFidelis → u/Donquers]

Because he didn't have enough loyalists on his side at the time. Now he does.

Where? On the Supreme Court, that's virtually unchanged? In the military, that's virtually unchanged? Hesgeth is definitely more willing to order troops to shoot protesters than Miller was, but I don't think troops are more likely to carry out that order.

What he does have is a shitload more money, and right-aligned news and social media outlets are more brazen about allowing him to lie. But I'm not sure Trump has the ability to marshal those resources effectively. He's even more delusional than he was in 2021 when his first attempt failed.

You've all been conditioned to believe that "because democracy," the system and all the corruption in it will always just work itself out. That evil people can be in power and it's fine because "checks and balances," and "no one will let that happen."

I haven't said any of those things. I'm going off of cold, hard facts here. Trump isn't more popular, his loyalists aren't smarter than they were before, and people are even more pissed off that the economy is crashing without COVID to blame it on.

You are deluded.

I have found that democracy is more likely to win in the end when people don't immediately surrender like you are right now. A large portion of power of fascists is their ability to act like their victory is inevitable, which you're falling for hard.

[u/Donquers → u/OratioFidelis]

I didn't say to "surrender."

My point is to get out there and DO MORE.

Because you're here fully acknowledging your life is on the line if/when the fox news host decides to have the military start shooting people, and you're just leaving it up to hope that they don't.

[u/OratioFidelis → u/Donquers]

Big protests are scheduled for tomorrow, come join us if you want to do more.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/03/hands-off-protest-trump-musk-april-5

[u/Easymodelife → u/OratioFidelis]

Good luck with your protests tomorrow. I hope they have a massive turnout and everyone stays safe. Look after each other. And I agree with what you say about not obeying fascism in advance. Timothy Snyder makes that point in On Tyranny (great read, the pdf version can be downloaded free online). 🇬🇧