r/MadeMeSmile • u/dittidot • 1d ago

Good News Way to go South Korea!

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u/ExtremestUsername 1d ago

Do you belive Trump will willingly give up power if you elect someone else?

That seems wierd to me as a european. He has no reason to leave power at this point, and the USA don't have a mecanism for removing a president who choses to stay.

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u/OratioFidelis 1d ago

Elections are decentralized. He can try to say "I'm still president" but it'll only work if the military listens to him, and his approval rating among soldiers is not high enough to pull that trick.

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u/ExtremestUsername 1d ago

But the courts already decleared that nothing he does while in office can get him arrested.

He's immune.

He could literally have Congress killed and it would be legal.

The American system has spent 200 years centralizing power into just one position.

If he would ignore the election, who is responsible for removing him? So far you seem to have relied exclusively on the idea that power will transfer peacefully by the president stepping down.

The Senate even confirmed last time that leading an attack on Congress was not a abuse of power.

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u/Superjoe42 1d ago

He can be impeached and removed by Congress, but the bar is ridiculously high, and Republicans have no courage to stand up to him.

Alternatively, a judge could hypothetically have him arrested for an offense such as contempt of court, but the Supreme Court is on his side and this also seems very unlikely.

Realistically, we are waiting for him to mess things up extremely badly so public opinion turns against him and influences Congress, but I'm not counting on it with our propagandistic media.

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u/ExtremestUsername 1d ago

In my country parliament only need a vote of no confidence to remove the leader, so the bar for removing a leader is quite low.

We only vote for the parliament members, and they have to form the executive branch based on the current balance of power there.

This also removed the problem of "spoiler candidates", as the third party candidates still weilds proportional power. And they naturally hinder gridlocks.

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u/GlitteryOndo 1d ago

To be honest, having the president/prime minister be the one who directly leads the largest party in parliament isn't great for separation of powers and that's what usually happens en European parliaments. All systems have their flaws. (I'm European btw)

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u/Solvemprobler369 7h ago

Again, enough rope to hang themselves on.