r/MandelaEffect • u/TheStoop-ALA- • 3d ago
Discussion My Fruit Of The Loom Story
I know the topic is everywhere now, but this is why I wholeheartedly believe in the Mandela Effect. So, I was 7 years old in 2010 (born 2003) and I loved watching Nick Jr. at the time. This is back when they still had the yellow moose and little blue bird characters talking about the upcoming shows and giving small lessons during commercials. During November of this year, they were giving a Thanksgiving themed lesson, as it was literally the day before said holiday. And,as you may expect, during this lesson they explained what a cornucopia was. I thought this word was hilarious so I remembered it. I woke up the next day and my mom was cooking already, and she instructed me to get ready for a bath. Well, I walked over to my little plastic sock and underwear drawer and grabbed a pair of Fruit of the Loom undies, noticing that cornucopia I learned about the DAY PRIOR. I thought it was cool because I had always assumed the logo just had a horn shaped basket, which made sense to me because, well it’s a logo and it doesn’t have to be like real life and I was like, “huh, cornucopias are everywhere!” I even went and told my mom about the cornucopia on the logo and she just gave me a disinterested “cool son.”
Strangely, I hadn’t noticed the disappearance until learning about the Mandela Effect when out first became mainstream in like, 2016.
What I DID notice, was the Bearenstain Bears changing in real time. This was a popular Nick Jr. show at the time as well, and I was ALWAYS watching it and checking out their books from the school library. One random day, I noticed it no longer said “-stein” at the end. I thought it was odd but never thought about it seriously.
Well, that’s all I got, thanks for the read!
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 3d ago
Pretty sure Moose and Zee never talked about a cornucopia. I have a child as old as you.
But do you like candy corn?
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u/HoraceRadish 3d ago
That's hilarious because the other posters usually swear the logo switched in the 70's, 80's, or 90's. Now we have 2000's born people saying it didn't switch until they were around.
The case of the ever changing argument.
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u/BiffSchwibb 3d ago edited 3d ago
Came here to say this! All these people claiming it changed all have it placed at different points in time, decades apart, doesn’t make sense!
I fully remember it being “Berenstain” back in the 80’s, and my sister still has the same books we had from that time, still say “Berenstain”, I used to call my step-brother a “BerenSTAIN on society!” specifically because of the spelling, I never saw it change!?
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u/HoraceRadish 3d ago
Honestly, I feel like people are bored or unhappy with their lives and being part of an "alternate universe" makes them feel special. I hope they are happy but it is very odd.
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u/JasonGD1982 3d ago
It is. Just wanting to believe in something bigger than yourself. Be part of something exciting. Large hadron colliders and multiverses are cooler than just realizing humans memories aren't that great lol. I get it. Neat thing but when you start doubting facts and evidence and saying well obviously the universe changed. It wasn't my bad memory is a little extreme 🤣
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u/BunnyBotherer 3d ago
There's definitely a segment of "true believers" who are in it for this very reason. They can't believe the world is in such a state so they've obviously been transported away from their "happier" home dimension, and the changed childhood things are the sign of it.
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u/Patient_Goat7743 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, I don’t need to feel special, and I’m not bored or unhappy with my life. I never ever went looking for this; it’s just something I noticed, and then noticed again and then again.
As far as believing it, that’s not a question that needs debating. I know what I remember, and I know what has changed somehow. it’s pretty simple.
It seems like maybe that bothers you and that you find it hard to believe. Why? Does it scare you, or make you feel unsafe?
In the context of the Mandela Effect, cognitive dissonance arises when individuals hold a strong, seemingly inviolable belief about a specific event or detail, while being confronted with strong evidence to the contrary, leading to Psychological discomfort.
It definitely can take time to get used to these ideas…but, some people are so disturbed by them that they have to find a “logical” way to explain it all away, like saying that these people are just bored, or unhappy, or wanting to feel special. The problem has to lie with them - because otherwise, these ideas could be true - and that makes the person feel too uncomfortable. They aren’t ready or able to even consider other possibilities about what is going on.
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u/sarahkpa 3d ago
It’s always “I was a kid last time I noticed the cornucopia on the logo” and never “I noticed the cornucopia on my t-shirt label yesterday and today it’s gone”
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u/Here4Chocolate 3d ago
Maybe it changes after you hit a certain age and not an absolute year 🤔
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u/sarahkpa 3d ago
In other words, childhood memories get altered with time
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u/AbhorrentBehavior77 2d ago
Very obscure, specific memories - Altered in very specific ways. The EXACT SAME, specific ways, in numerous people's lives - Across the globe...Yeah sure, that checks out.
That describes a completely organic memory degradation process...
For a hivemind, maybe! Not for individuals.
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u/WhimsicalSadist 2d ago
Altered in very specific ways. The EXACT SAME, specific ways, in numerous people's lives - Across the globe...Yeah sure, that checks out.
It's almost like all human brains function in the same way...
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 4h ago
It’s funny how yall always make that claim, yet we have people who swear it was “Bernstein” and people who swear it was “Berenstein.” I’ve seen people claim the cornucopia was flipped from the way the photoshopped fake version looks, and some people have even claimed they remember bananas in the logo. You don’t all remember it the same.
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u/AbhorrentBehavior77 2h ago
Half those people are trolls just tossing shit up here because they think they're being clever.
You may have encountered a few randos claiming they remember it being: Bernstein, Bronstein or Brenstain or whatever else. The obscure ones are to be disregarded.
As the true ME has always been "stein vs. stain"
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 2h ago
I’m sure the Bernstein people would say the same about the Berenstein people. It’s not a few randoms here and there, either it’s multiple people every time this gets brought up. I’ve never seen anyone claim it was Bronstein or Brenstein either, you’re making that up
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u/EmberOnTheSea 3d ago
What in the Chat GPT is this? My son was born in 2001. Berenstain Bears was on television when I was a child. It certainly was never on Nick Jr and was definitely NOT popular in the 2000s.
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u/Spikeybear 3d ago
there was more than one show, there was an old one and one that came out in early 200s
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u/EmberOnTheSea 3d ago
Fair enough, I was unaware of the brief remake, which is weird, because my son watched a LOT of PBS. However, it never aired on Nick Jr and is doesn't appear that it was in the timeslot OP is claiming either.
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u/Apprehensive-Cat-111 1d ago
My kids were born in 2008, 2009 and 2015. The older 2 remember seeing the Berenstain Bears on TV too. The youngest is only 9 so he doesn’t know who that is lol so I think a new one aired on PBS.
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u/Repulsive-Duty905 3d ago
The Mandela Effect is a phenomenon of memory. The part about things changing is your interpretation of those memories, but not the actual effect. So, what are you saying you wholeheartedly believe in?
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u/Happiness-happppy 3d ago
I dont think that is the case, too many similar stories to claim it is a problem with memory recalling, there is clearly something more to it.
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u/HoraceRadish 3d ago
That would be fine if the Internet didn't exist. People hear "Fruit of the Loom had no basket" and they either agree or feel like that is wrong. They were fed that information. ME has been around for a long time now and too many memories are colored.
It is not like someone went door to door and asked anyone if they had any changes and magically hundreds of distinct people all had the same. They heard about it on the internet. Of course it is the same.
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u/Structure-Tall 2d ago edited 2d ago
There are several things with your anecdote so I will counter with one of my own. I met Emily Berenstain, the granddaughter of Stan and Jan Berenstain, at a house party around 2008 and we chatted a bit about the stein-/stain thing and she showed me her drivers license. I am firmly in the Berenstain camp since that’s how it’s been my entire life, and I worked at a preschool for 15 years and am now a children’s librarian.
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u/ProcedureGrouchy906 4h ago
I was at Walmart around 2008-2010 don’t quite remember exact year, I was shopping for my then fiancés white undershirts and I saw the tags and thought “why did they remove the cornucopia?” And same year I saw the “New Target sign” on the department store. And somewhere near those times, my nephews both grab Pikachu toy at a store, they were calling it Pikachu and I was telling them, that’s not Pikachu, he has a black tip tail! Yep all within the same year.
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u/ManHandz20 3d ago
I grew up in the 80s.-90s. Born in 82. I loved the Bernstein bears books. Mamma papa, sister and brother bear. Oh the memories. I collected them. There were so many. I bought them at school book fairs, or ordered them thru scholastic books. I know it was “ein” I always asked my mom how to pronounce it. Was it steen or stine, I would ask. When I got older I always it was pronounced like the steen in Jewish names. And never thought twice about it. Later to find out it’s now spelled with an “A”. I’ve come to terms with it. I can’t explain why or how, but I know what I know.
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u/WVPrepper 3d ago
I was the class mom. I passed out the Scholastic Books order forms, compiled the orders, chose "bonus books" for the Classroom Library, and it was always Berenstain. Lots of kids, parents, and even teachers said "stein" amd I did not want to look like a "know-it-all" so I never corrected them, because it didn't seem like it was hurting anything... When books arrived, I'd announce that the classroom got two new Berenstain Bears books and Little Critter Goes to School (saying the name properly) but not outright telling otherst they had said it wrong.
There was a Berenstain Bears TV cartoon and the singer sings "Berenstain" in one version of the theme song. In another the narrators says it and then they sing it.
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u/Whitebirdy 3d ago
Oh yeah. My family also sometimes said Berenstein pronounced as in “Frankenstein” and we’d have discussions about the pronunciation. It was always STINE or STEEN….never STAIN!
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u/Sherrdreamz 3d ago edited 3d ago
I used to correct people when they pronounced the series BerenSTINE. It was always properly stated as BerenSTEEN. My family all have the memory of both the proper spelling of Berenstein and pronunciation as STEEN. The first instant I saw BerenSTAIN in 2015 I was looking up when it changed, and thus began my fascination with the Mandela Effect.
I asked my family separately about what they remembered of the bear family that we would all read during our childhood "referencing myself and my two siblings" and both my parents spelled and stated it like I always did. This wasn't the first time I experienced a M.E, as FOTL appeared to drop the Cornucopia in their logo around 2008, but I just assumed it was a rebranding back then.
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u/WVPrepper 3d ago
'Stein' is a German word pronounced in standard German as if 'shtine'. Yiddish speakers pronounced it as if 'shtain'. In English speaking countries there are broadly two parallel pronunciations: one is not more correct than the other: 'stine' and 'steen'.
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u/Legal_Routine_7877 3d ago
Agree! Born in 81 same memories as you book fair,scholastic books, libraries. They were my FAVORITE books and I definitely remember it has -stein. I remember when I first realized they were saying it was actually -stain once I was an adult. I was fully outraged like there's no way in hell! I read those books front to back 100s of times and it was during the formative years so I spelled out everything and even read the fine print on anything I could get my hands on. It was definitely spelled -stein....
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u/Structure-Tall 2d ago
I was also born in 1982, was an avid reader as a child, then as an adult worked at a preschool for 15 years and am currently a children’s librarian. It’s always been Berenstain.
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u/Apprehensive-Cat-111 1d ago
I think my kid brain just assumed it was -stein but didn’t really pay attention to it and that it just turns out I was wrong all along and it was -stain. Who are we to tell Stan and Jan Berenstain the spelling of their own names anyway lol.
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u/LetterIntelligent640 3d ago
My family used to use the "-steen", I was born in 1971. I vividly remember my mother saying that we'd been pronouncing the name wrong and it was really "-stain" . I was probably 8 or 9. I remember where I was standing in my house when she told me this. It's was a very real change to me.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 3d ago
Berenstain Bears never aired on Nick Jr. it was PBS/CBS show