r/MonsterHunter 29d ago

MH Wilds Dear devs, PLEASE stop giving Lance the draw skills lmao

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u/TheWb117 29d ago

I didn't even think the skill existed lol, until I randomly got a deco for it. No artillery or load up from armour of any kind. Effectively, you want a weapon with at least 2 level 3 slots for artillery and load up always. And for me, offensive guard is a skill of choice number 3. And you can't even get artillery/other skill deco, those just don't exist.

It's not that gl is weak or anything, it's actually crazy strong, but setbuilding for it is quite sad

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u/IronPro9 29d ago edited 29d ago

Luckily the balahara GL can have max artillery, load shells and offensive guard. Getting guard, guard up, artillery and load shells is impossible though I think.

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u/DiscoMonkey007 29d ago

My Arkveld GL have max level Artillery, Guard, Load Shell and lvl1 Guard up.

The weapon have Guard 2 and 2 lvl3 slots and 1 lvl1 slot. Lvl3 slot i give Artillery 3, and the other Load Shell 2/Guard 1, for lvl1 slot i give Guard Up.

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u/Leather_rebelion 29d ago

Why guard up? There are barely any unblockable attacks in the game and the few I can think of can be escaped quiet easily. I would rather get guard to 3 for less hitstun

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u/ReliusOrnez 29d ago

My guess is that there is usually a ton less hitstun when you perfect block anyway so you take guard up to make the only ones you can't block normally not a problem.

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u/aromaticity 29d ago

It's nice for things like grabs that are unblockable but deal basically no initial damage (though those are usually not too hard to avoid and not very punishing), but lv1 Guard Up means you're taking 70% of the attacks damage when you block an unblockable. At that point you still just want to avoid it.

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u/DiscoMonkey007 29d ago

I already have Guard 3. Honestly that Guard Up was a placeholder until i figured out what to put there lol. I just got lvl1 ATK boost so is now that.

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u/Every-Intern5554 29d ago

Did you cheat your decos or something?

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u/TheWorldHitBottom 29d ago

There's a deco farm people came up with thats gets hundreds of decos per hour

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u/maxtofunator 29d ago

Im sitting on pretty much the same. Artillery 3, load shells2/guard1, and I use guard up 1 playing on ps5. Makes it super nice to play now that I finally got it all

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u/DiscoMonkey007 29d ago

Nope, all RNGesus baby.

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u/Ekhazarhaze 29d ago

I have thr same setup, is there even guard lvl 3 deco?

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u/AKA_Slothhs 29d ago

Yeah, you can also get a guard/guard up deco based on research I did

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u/Ekhazarhaze 29d ago

Yes you can but only plain guard 3, gunlance decos are just bad you need weapon with a desired skill otherwise you just wont get bases and that limits gunlance dramaticly, you have to worry about base stats shelling and skill not even considering elements such a shame imo.

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u/KnightShinko Palico Pats 29d ago

I was farming investigations for hours trying to get an Artillery jewel 3. Hit HR 100 and I’m sure I have multiple of every deco except for Artillery and you can’t even use a set instead. I don’t even main weapons that use it, I just want try them with good builds and see if I can get into them.

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u/Ekhazarhaze 29d ago

Artillery might be little rarer as there are no combos just single arty 3 but it exist as i have it

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u/minhbi99 29d ago

I got like 3 artillery at HR 120 by now (The first one probably at pre-HR40 even), and yet, not a single Critical Jewel. RNG be RNG.

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u/Permaderps 29d ago

I mean arty and load shells are weapon skills, we couldve assumed it wouldnt be on armor

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u/ezrasharpe 29d ago

Artillery is a weapon skill, why would it be on armor?

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u/stinkus_mcdiddle 29d ago

I didn’t see the word artillery in game until endgame lmao. The reason you don’t see it on armour is because it’s a weapon skill even though it isn’t on ANY of the gun lances. So literally your only method of getting artillery is through slotting it into your gunlance via decos because theres no charm for it either.

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u/Gamefreak3525 29d ago

Think GL is just cursed to have no options for sets in the base games. 

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u/ComradeBrosefStylin 29d ago

Gore, Arkveld, and Ebony Odogaron all work perfectly well for gunlance

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u/fizzguy47 29d ago

I do not know if this is true, but I only started seeing bow and bowgun decos drop when I equip the weapons in battle

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u/Master4733 29d ago

It's possible there might be some weighting to the drops, but you can get decorations without having that weapon.

I've only touched charge blade, but I still get bow/bowgun drops. It's possible I got them from melding, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten the para coating decoration from a hunt

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u/Prince_Berzerk 29d ago

I feel like atleast half of my jewels are opening shot or bandolier related and i refuse to use the bowgun just because ammo management.

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u/PhoenixEgg88 29d ago

Ammo management? All normal, pierce and spread are now infinite. The only ammo you need stock of is special & elemental. Normal honestly slaps on HBG considering its infinite normal 3 on a 3 round burst.

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u/Prince_Berzerk 29d ago

Oh word? May actually try the bowguns for the first time then.

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u/PhoenixEgg88 29d ago

I spent most of worldborne and risebreak as a LBG main. This is the first one I’ve picked up the HBG and being like ‘oh this is fun’. I’m only HR40 right now, but loving it a whole bunch. Elemental ammo is really, really good too, which means you can craft a couple of guns you like. I just use the 60 and swap to normal. Not like rise where you needed tonnes of crafting mats with you at all times.

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u/spirit_of-76 29d ago

you can craft from the radial menu and elemental ammo crafts 6 at a time with electric crafting 10 at a time the plants now stack to 20 to boot ammo management is even easier than in world where the ammo had levels instead (amo level is now intrinsic to the gun and gun modding)

the right elemental ammo is far more powerful than pierce

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u/PhoenixEgg88 29d ago

You know I didn’t know all of that, but the new stuff (crafting volumes etc…) are making me want to go elemental more. The Artian I created happened to have water ammo, so I used it when fighting Gravios and it wrecked it, so having a couple guns to swap elements would be amazing.

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u/spirit_of-76 29d ago

Yeah Elemental ammo on heavy Bogan is good now