r/MonsterHunter Mar 08 '25

MH Wilds Dear devs, PLEASE stop giving Lance the draw skills lmao

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u/kyuuri117 29d ago

Yea there are just questionable decisions everywhere. Like what is the point of designing beautiful looking weapons across the board and then having the artian weapons just be best in slot?

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u/DinnerWinner 29d ago

I just can't bring myself to use the artian weapons. They look so uninspiring compared to any of the monster ones. Honestly, I don't even care if I'm sacrificing 10 or 20 percent damage it's not like the hunts take that long anyway

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u/Leorake 29d ago

Last I checked the math (on sns) was ~7% on a perfect artian. So you're not missing much.

I feel they should have saved this for the wilds version of safi/kulve/fatalis/alatreon or whatever.

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u/1kingdomheart 29d ago

Looking on the upside, at least whatever we get later is bound to be better. Either they'll be reworked or we get something else.

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u/Luncheon_Lord 29d ago

With that attitude and logic this game would have been released in a better state and not backslid into a non monster hunter game

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u/PooPooKazew 29d ago

I agreed for a minute until that braindead hyperbole at the end there

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u/Luncheon_Lord 29d ago

I followed the avalanche to its logical conclusion. Take out the cats and the armor skills and start making it into a mass effect dialogue game, and it sorta stops feeling like a monster hunter game. The action is there, sure. Hunting monsters is awesome. I just don't understand why they're still asking their writers to put cat puns in the game. It's obvious they're already on the chopping block. Where is the hair in my food? And why are there skills on my weapons??

Monster Hunter: Hack n Slash Wars is coming sooner than ya think.

Also no need to call me braindead. I actually have a ton of neurons firing right now, much activity.

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u/PooPooKazew 29d ago

For the record, I'm not saying you're braindead. The statement at the end of your comment is what I was referring to

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u/Luncheon_Lord 29d ago

Well some people mean what they say. I somehow missed the trailers for this release and decided I'd stick with that and enjoy my surprise when the game releases.

How I was supposed to expect this level of nightmare is ridiculous. Why is the player character talking? Where are all the monsters? Where are the felyne chefs? Why are they putting skills on weapons and taking them off armor? Why is the camp so crowded?

I look at this and it just feels like the least monster hunter inspired title of monster hunter titles.

It's obviously a monster hunter game still, but that line is blurred as fuuuuuck for players like me. Whyd the spirit and fun of these games have to get axed?

It's been a while since I've had the time to enjoy these and I'm having an existential crisis as the bullet train speeds by the old station covered in cat stickers I'm stuck at.

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u/XaresPL 28d ago

cat puns were a thing since like always, imo its a part of MH identity actually

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u/Luncheon_Lord 28d ago

Well enjoy it while you can because felyne chefs were a part of the identity as well and that's gone and with it a lot of my love for the franchise moving forward. Our characters disgusting voice cost us our beloved kitty cooks.

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u/XaresPL 28d ago

yeah thats a loss. maybe the april update will add them with the planned gathering hall, should be in 1.0 either way but alas

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u/rhuntern 29d ago

Idk. Like, I get the problem. Artian are mathematically better and without layered, it sucks. But, on the other hand, if they’re, at MOST, only 7% better, then it’s really not that big of a deal for the vast majority of players. I think it’s a solid chase for the end of HR because of that. You don’t need them so if you’re the type of player that just wants to keep playing, here’s a solid grind. If you aren’t someone who wants that, then there’s no real fomo in not getting them because they aren’t really necessary.

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u/_pm_me_a_happy_thing 29d ago

7% is actually a big deal. Other endgame sets/stats have 1-3% difference over each other. 7% is huge especially in the speedrunning community.

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u/rhuntern 28d ago

I said it wasn’t that big of a deal for a vast majority of people, aka the average player. If you’re speedrunning, then yeah, you’ll notice the 7% difference. But if you’re just trying to normally hunt a monster, a 7% weaker weapon won’t greatly impact your hunting time. I’m not spectacular at math, but you’d only be losing a couple of minutes at most. That’s not really something that requires Artian.

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u/Maronmario And my Switch Axe 29d ago

That’s at least the good thing, Artian weapons are better but only by a small percentage

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u/Farabee 29d ago

With less large monsters at release than Wilds or Rise, they had to keep us grinding for something.

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u/th5virtuos0 29d ago

Man I can’t wait for something like Gog or Dalamadur siege fight

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u/DracoMessierr 29d ago

As a db main i would say no to safi/kulve type of weapon no matter what. Hell! if it means not having kulve in the game than i am willing to sacrifice. No matter what element weapon every guide has the same answer "go get kjarr weapons" the fun was gone farming the same guy. And even with CUREDOSIN mods majority of cool weapon replacements were non kulve weapons. smh.

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u/Winterplatypus 29d ago edited 29d ago

We should be able to use layered weapons from any of the other tier 8's. Even if it's limited to weapons of the same element. So you can make your fire artisan look like a rathian weapon.

What they call loadouts should be renamed to armour sets. A loadout should mean an armour set + restock item pouch + layered armour all with one button push. With an option so you can apply the layer universally to all gear, or if you want you can have specific layers saved to loadouts.

The Xu Wu Gloves keep dropping their decorations when you load them in a loadout too. It's super annoying having to resocket the decos every time. I stopped using the gloves because of it.

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u/ralts13 29d ago

There is one reason to use Artisan weapons. For some reason Blast CBs and Gunlances dont exist so I have to make one for each.

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u/Reddit_minion97 29d ago

For sure. I only make them for elements that don't have a good tree on specific weapons

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u/Prepared_Noob 29d ago

ESPECIALLY BC WE WERE ABLE TO CHSNGE RAMPAGE WEAPONS APPEARANCE IN RISE

WHY ARE WE DEVOLVING

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u/GouchGrease 29d ago

Admittedly I think the portable team just knows how to have more fun with it lol. Kind of seems consistent the past few games. I love 4U, but GU just hit better

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u/titan_null 28d ago

You could not do that at launch

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u/ItWasDumblydore 29d ago edited 29d ago

This game mostly feels like Rise but open world, with a lot of the fun stuff taken away.

2 weapons < silk skills

a lot of weapons feel sorta nerfed because they where worried about you abusing it for it's burst. (Light bow gun feels like this vs the HBG)

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u/Idoma_Sas_Ptolemy 29d ago

Iunno, my Rank 8 Lala Barina Daggers have yet to be replaced by an artian weapon. They are always lagging behind in both damage categories and affinity, even with good rolls.

In fact no other weapon so far came close to compete with them.

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u/UltimateCarl https://i.imgur.com/pvYdbv8.gif 29d ago

Other than the Lala Barina Lance having the problem mentioned in OP, that tree has consistently had some of the highest raw, along with positive affinity, the best sharpness, paralysis being a great bonus, and decent slots... I've basically used that line almost the entire game, with a few dips into the O-Dog set since it gets Offensive Guard and upgrades at different times so the raw usually gets better.

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u/Farabee 29d ago

Running around beating down everyone with my metal half-donuts as DB.

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u/atuck217 29d ago

Artian Gun Lance is not best in slot due to not being able to get better shelling and not caring as much about white sharpness. I get your point, but that is a weapon type where the artian versions are worse.

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u/Laterose15 29d ago

I really want to try some silly builds, like a Paralysis/Poison DB + Bow. But I also know that despite how cool they are, the meta will probably just be WEX/Burst/Raw or Elemental...again.

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u/Username928351 29d ago

It genuinely baffles me how the dev team time and time again manages to get basic stuff like numbers wrong.

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u/BandicootRaider 29d ago

I like the idea of them but Artian weapons feel like they should have come waaaaay later, and have some sort of drawback so they aren't just the best choice all the time.

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u/HajimeNoLuffy ​Normal only. Full burst only. 28d ago

LAYERED

WEAPONS

PLEASE