r/MonsterHunter • u/Velxin • 24d ago
MH Wilds This guy joined my tempered gore hunt and just stood back and just applied buffs (NO HORN) the whole hunt
He really was a dollar store doctor
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u/clark_kent25 24d ago
I had 2 people join my tempered arkveld that just ran around gathering materials until I captured it.
Like bros I SoS’d to share the investigation rewards already. Is that not enough? lol.
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u/SevenBeesInACake 24d ago
Kick em out. I've kicked a few people doing nothing. Fuck em.
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u/Domoda 24d ago
I remember joining someone’s tempered arkveld run and as soon as I started fighting he just went back to base and afk’d there. I got annoyed so I just carted 3 times on purpose.
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u/Howard_Jones 24d ago
Just disconnect and run with NPCs.
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u/a55_Goblin420 23d ago edited 23d ago
People wanna get carried when this game is already easy enough.
Arkveld feels like a mid story hunt from world.
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u/Nero_PR 23d ago
I spend more time running after arkveld than fighting him in my hunts. Like it was in the beta, I had instances where he got damaged to the point of running to a new area, then I hit him once in the new area and he runs back again to somewhere else. It's ridiculous because this is high rank tempered arkveld on a mish-mash build I have. I'm not even bothering mix-maxing until harder content drops, I'll just run fun and silly builds.
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u/Gozucapricorn 23d ago
Thank you for keeping it fun and silly. As a casual player, I doubt I'll see you on the hardest content when it drops. But for now I've been happy to see a pretty even spread of weapon variations out there. I have yet to join a game where everyone's equipped the same gear and weapon, with the same decorations. I'd much prefer to hunt with the goofball build and have a good wyvern hunt. Then a couple of professionals do all the work for me.
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 23d ago
If they're contributing stuff like buffing and support, I couldn't care less, I'll carry. Big swords goes SCHING SCHING SCHING SCHING SCHING.
If they're just running around doing nothing that's different but if they're buffing me to the gills, how could you not want to show out. Do you have faith in your skill?
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u/Blinding_Blizzard 23d ago
I still care tbh, I've played hunting horn enough to know that the ones that sit in the back just have zero clue how to play hunting horn, nor want to learn.
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u/Xtrapsp2 23d ago
If you cart 3 times and it's an investigation it removes 1 of their instances of it
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u/WhatThePommes 23d ago
You can kick people luckily
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u/InTeaGames 23d ago
Don't think you can kick the hunt'a host...
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u/Broks_Enmu 24d ago
How tf do you kick pls ?
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u/TheFicbog 24d ago
In settings go to member list, then switch over to the folder called quest members, and finally click on them and remove from quest member list. I think it’s called something like that at least.
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u/SuperSonic486 23d ago
Yeah and please dont forget turning off auto join. That shit is ASS. It was trash and world, its trash in wilds.
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u/elysecherryblossom 24d ago
meanwhile i got paranoid in MHR if i took too long collecting spiritbirds when i joined late into a hunt that i would get kicked or something
like i swear i want to help but i don't want to get 2-shotted by the monster .-.
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u/FB-22 24d ago
lol yeah I hated that about spiribirds, competing pressure between getting enough HP to not be a liability to the group if I get hit but not take enough time before reaching the monster that people think I’m trolling or something. Glad that gimmick is gone
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u/elysecherryblossom 24d ago
yeah since i mainly hunted with my friend only after a certain point i just had a mod that boosted spiribird values to be like 5x boosts so u had to collect less to max out (there was an option to just spawn the arena style rainbow ones at the start of every hunt but i still wanted to keep some of the og vision)
but yeah it’s a bit lame when u ended up specifically looking through your random allotted quests for ones in arenas to get that instant full hp and stamina
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u/Morbid_Fatwad 24d ago
I joined a Barioth assignment in Iceborne and host was afk at camp the entire hunt. Decided to kill the monster because I didn't want to give him the carve rewards.
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u/jhinigami 24d ago edited 23d ago
I joined a Fatalis hunt the host was just at camp using binoculars while 3 of us were fighting Satan himself lmao
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u/elysecherryblossom 24d ago
thats a big oof considering fatalis has a strict timer and it's scaled for 4 people at that point
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u/blentz499 24d ago edited 23d ago
Actually, I'm sure pretty scaling only goes up to three players. Four players doesn't add any more health to monsters.
That's why you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot playing in a three person party because you lose palico support and are pretty much dealing with the same health pool as you would with a fourth player.
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u/elysecherryblossom 24d ago edited 24d ago
true i just read the wiki weird and went hmm 1,2 and 4 player scaling and ignored that obviously a 3 player party fights at the 4 player scale and not the 2 player scale lol
and i totally forgot the palico interaction as well ty
edit: also i read the scaling goes from 1x to 1.5x to 2.2-2.6x (depending on monster) and in the case of fatalis it’s the 2.6x number
so yeah between a 3 person party and this guy’s experience of a pseudo 3 person party they definitely had it rough
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u/_Steep_ 24d ago
I've had this happen too. Never saw the other guys
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u/yewjrn 24d ago
Might be a bug. I've had a few times where I can't see my partner despite both of us fighting the monster after she joined my investigation. We literally can't see each other nor any callouts. If not for our health bars still being visible, I would have assumed that she didn't join the investigation.
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u/Proper_Anybody 24d ago
I often got the reverse, joined some SOS and the host is nowhere near the objective monster
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u/SchrodingerMil 23d ago
Well, admittedly when it’s a “normal” quest with 50 minutes, I’ll start it and do a little material collecting while I wait for other players to trickle in.
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u/Budget_Cold_4551 23d ago
I've been in the middle of a quest (my own quests though) and stumbled across mini gold crown monsters, so then I have to curse and chase after the gold crown before it despawns
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u/Then-Temperature4223 24d ago
Lucky. I've sent an SOS flare twice and almost instantly both times the quest was failed. Never again.
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u/telumex_atrum 24d ago
I always feel so horrible joining an SoS or Lobby Hunt where it completes right when I get to the monster. I have told myself I'm not allowed to carve if I don't get a few hits in first. The hunt rewards are more than I deserve at that point.
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u/thingsbetw1xt 24d ago
I don’t think it’s that serious, the quest leader knows that you just got there and didn’t have time to make it. I certainly don’t care lol
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 23d ago
Nobody should ever take the game that seriously.
If i kill a monster and you just happen to join at the end, that's not your fault. Enjoy the free materials hope you get the gear you want.
I probably just gonna kill it again again anyways
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u/Random_Guy_47 24d ago
I remember in World beating AT Lunastra was damn near impossible. Couldn't do it solo, groups constantly wiped in multiplayer.
Got lucky with sos random, one of them was running max wide range, free meal and speed eating.
You got hit, you stayed down as long as possible and you were full health again before you got up. The guy did zero damage and was basically a walking health potion.
It was the only time in ~1400 hours of Worldborne that I used the return to camp with current party option. The group stayed together until all of us had enough tickets to make the full armour set and the layered set too.
While it's not a playstyle I would generally recommend it can be effective.
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u/Velvache 24d ago
Honestly its not even that bad in wilds considering 1 slot decorations are contested by like nothing. Im actually just running mushroom 2 without wide range just to buff myself up and eat blue mushrooms cause they heal you so fast compared to pots.
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u/InsomniacWanderer 24d ago
Now that defensive skills are separated from offensive ones, there's way more reason to run wide range and mushroomancer than ever.
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u/ohtetraket 23d ago
We have armor and weapon decos. Something like Weakness exploit is still an Armor Deco. Lots of offensive skills in Armor honestly.
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u/Darth_Chain all the rise doots. 24d ago
I generally run this and i carry literally every buff i can. i get into a match with a healing horn and as soon as all the allies are around me its buff from the horn then in order, immunize, mega demon drug, mega armor drug, demon powder, armor powder, dash juice. After thats done i am under the monster playing my horn like its the opening to "through the fire and flames" and if i see some so much as step on a thumbtack im playing a healing song. this is with max wide range, item prolonger, and free meal. do i do damage? not really. do i attack? oh hell yes. will you cart? no unless im having a stroke personally or you REALLY shouldnt have been standing there.
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u/new_start01 23d ago
I used to run this! But with SnS so that I could quickly drink a pot mid fight, gotta get that DPS in!
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u/Restaldte 24d ago
Thats the power of friendship and mushrooms
My favorite multiplayer build
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u/Global_Thought_6252 24d ago
God yes - It's why I'm running a para-bow build for MP. I can plink away at a distance and stack para to create openings (dragon piece especially seems to really tick the build up), drop heals and buffs for the team, and trigger wounds to give my teammates time/openings if needed
I've come to the realisation that a comp of two hard hitting melee supported by hunting horn and a ranged weapon is an insane combo in this game
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u/ShinaiYukona 24d ago
Conga bow with exhaust deco is fantastic for support.
Exhaust stagger is free DPS
Paras, free DPS
Tracer arrow the head and the exhaust can stun instead
Power coating if you're fighting something long where your DPs are getting insane value.
Blast if it's a small critter.
It's the closest we'll get to support gunning this game. Really do miss having a wide range horn that I could blast my armor / demon / recovery shots into though :( maybe they'll unfuck bowguns in the future
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u/Xenric 24d ago
Fuck, here I go switching weapons again. Got a build?
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u/ShinaiYukona 24d ago edited 24d ago
I don't have anything specifically setup for it. Just a generic set because I'm too lazy to optimize it.
Wildwood (Blast 3 + draincoat + paralyzer)
G. Ark B (flayer + shockproof)
G Ebony B (2x part breaker)
G Ebony B (2x friendship)
G Ark B (2x friendship)
Udra B (flayer + friendship)
Chain charm 2The full set above nets you:
Blast Attack 3/3
Special ammo 2/2
Para attack 1/3
Charge Master 1/3
Exhaust functionality 1/1
Flayer 5/5
Wide range 5/5
Burst 4/5
Part breaker 3/3
Divine blessing 1/3
Earplugs 1/3
Windproof 1/3
Shock absorber 1/1
Burst boost 1
Decimator 1The idea here was to get some easy blast damage (takes like 3 shots to get the first 150 proc), go into para which usually is achieved before the first full coating is gone. Exhaust until stun accomplished, after which I never touch this again.
You can do poison if it's susceptible to it, but it's not very helpful tbh.. only really pull it out if I'm doing a group hunt and soloing a monster.
Part breaker because our DP can sever tails.
Our status is amped by charge Master via DP, bonus special ammo also makes our DPs hit hard.
We're doing this build to support, so wide range lets us chug pots or armor/demons to buff allies. Bow has a relatively quick sheathe naturally and our distance means we can generally pull out a pot and heal the team before they even safely disengage.
Earplugs isn't all that helpful tbh.
2nd wep is a rathian LBG with attack decos until I find a pierce deco. Our armor setup is generic DPS so this is a solid backup, but this is more so I can force myself to adjust to the new LBG that I hate. Lol
Edit: I am considering swapping the blast deco for sleep coating. But I'm not convinced the game in this state really needs THAT much CC from us lmao.
Don't forget you can fire a focus shot at individual wounds to cause stagger windows that follow into a DP. If you have a status coating on, always aim that down their head to the largest limb(s) possible.
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u/Lux-Fox 24d ago
Why flayer? It doesn't work on any focus shot or dragon piercer. I believe it also doesn't work on the other dragon skill either and maybe more.
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u/ShinaiYukona 24d ago
To pull off KOs you'll be using your charged dash to pepper a monster's head with exhaust. These attacks benefit from flayer. Not every attack you make will be dragon piercer, though in some fights you will be predominantly doing DPs (jin).
However, as mentioned it's a generic damage set and my alternate weapon (lbg) does benefit afaik.
I have been running this set since the 2nd day of the game before flayer mechanics were discovered. I do not personally care to min max it. There's no content I feel that I'm underperforming in or struggling. Majority of hunts I do solo take under 8 minutes. Most group hunts are faster
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u/Lux-Fox 24d ago
Which skill are you referring to with "charged dash"?
I most of my fights I'm doing close range coating within range, using dp aiming straight down the entire body and using dash/dash jump (flying swallow shot) or perfect dodge to reposition quickly and continue firing straight down the body. I do have part breaker 3, so my main goal is making sure the shot makes it to the tail even if I can't necessarily get the head too, I'll get most of the body.
I'm also using flinch free 3, it seems to help me get off more shots so I have less time on the ground if I make a bad call on my timing.
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u/ShinaiYukona 23d ago
With the bow drawn and aimed, doing a dodge charges your bow 1 stage. Normally at lv3 your next shot resets back to lv 1 charge. Unless you follow it up with a "charging sidestep". This lets you maintain lv3 charge for multiple shots, very useful for status application.
But yeah, typically I'll do a few exhaust shots to head, maintain 1 or 2 of them via charged sidestep to position for a dragon piercer. Not sure if wilds has charged dragon piercer like World did. I'm leaning towards no personally.
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u/Mejai91 24d ago
My girlfriend got addicted to hunting horn. We just duo everything with our Palicos and me on swaxe or hammer. It honestly feels like cheating.
I’m hoping we get humbled at some point
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u/fallenKlNG 24d ago
I wish I could get my gf to play this with me, but we only have a PS5 and there’s no couch co-op.
I’ve been using the charge blade but currently trying to switch over to hunting horn. I’m pretty early into high rank, but it feels awkward trying to make the switch now. Any recommendations on which horns/skills to use?
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u/Gerudo_King 23d ago
"Two hard hitting hitting melee supported by hunting horn and a ranged weapon"
So you mean 3 Hunting Horns?
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u/barugosamaa 23d ago
I never cared about Shrooms build because I needed Deco Slots and Armor Skills for more important stuff.
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u/Bgrubz83 24d ago
Haha yea I run shroomfriend on my GL/HBG run to group much shrooms share buffs then start wailing till time to next area repeat
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u/Worgalphihndor_ 24d ago
I remember trying to fight Arc tempered Val Hazak to get the tickets to make the Death Stench layered armor...
I could not get a party together to beat it eventually we had a guy show up the horn who basically spent the whole game applying buffs and healing.
It was the first time I beat AT Vaal and I LOST IT people like this are gems
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u/Implodepumpkin 24d ago
They should just let some people play as a palico to support
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u/mint_does_things 24d ago
I'll never stop hoping for Prowler Mode to come back <3
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u/Mr_Ruu 24d ago
my copium is the Portable team (responsible for Rise) will reimplement wackier weapons, one of which would be the Prowler, and balance it so it isn't gimmicky
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u/ThisBuddhistLovesYou 24d ago
Prowler was so broken early MHG (unsure about Ultimate). I think it was like 2-3 carts for it to count as 1 cart by normal hunter, and the boomerang was actually best DPS in the game with the right loadout.
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u/lordatamus This is my BoomStick 24d ago
You could lose all but one acorn, run to camp, sleep, then run back out and never have 'fainted' according to the game. Boomerang would land multiple hits coming and going, so upto like 4-6 hits depending on postioning... unlimited traps and tranqs and healing items depending on the build.
I had an Ultimate Pali-bro that could full heal, trap and Tranq alongside having the big bomerang for insane damage...
Granted it took a bit of setup and manipulating training/hunting to get the levels and skills you wanted, but once you had that? you could easily have a team of three cats that would annihilate monsters under 5 minutes.7
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u/mint_does_things 24d ago
People gripe about them, but sometimes all you need is a corner horner.
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u/CaptainBarbosa93 24d ago
Man, I like barely ever reply to comments, but "corner horner" really got me. Thanks for the laugh.
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u/mint_does_things 24d ago
Lol, I can't remember who at this point, but I definitely got that term from someone in this sub a long time ago.
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u/Ketheres Discombobulate 24d ago edited 24d ago
It's at least a decade old insult towards people doing nothing but dooting in the corner (not even providing heals or buffs with wide range. Though even healer builds like that would ideally still fight the monster between heals). I very much do not approve of people just leeching like that, since spamming songs in the corner does nothing but keep the songs refreshed. A corner healer is something I won't complain about though.
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u/adinfinitum225 24d ago
I can't even imagine doing that in this game. The songs last long enough that you can throw some echo waves in there, and if you're grabbing the notes for a healing song then might as well hit the monster while you're doing it.
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u/Nivosus doot doot 24d ago
I don't like corner horners. They give us a bad name. Learn to play or play solo. Simple as that.
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u/mint_does_things 24d ago
Hey man, I know a lot of people don't like them, but sometimes it's really helpful to have someone dedicated to healing and curing statuses. I'd only recommend it in a premade group that knows what they're doing, though, and only against mons like Val who are constantly causing afflictions.
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u/iAbra454 24d ago
A good hunting horn can still engage with the monster while supporting the team
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u/SavemySoulz 24d ago
I love using the rathian hunting horn, solo or in a group. The fact that it has poison to deal with hyperactive monsters, a blunt melody for extra ko and melody of like for when you need that tight spot healing it feels like a cheat code. Always felt like I was cruising on easy mode with that weapon.
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u/mint_does_things 24d ago
For sure, 100%. I'm not here trying to extol the virtues of corner hornering, lol
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u/Oldmangamer13 24d ago
Yup and I know its different sorts of games but other types of game where you party will sometimes have what they call a zdps build. IE zero dps. They are just there to buff the others.
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u/JE_Exa 24d ago
Oh man, the first time I beat Fatalis, there was a dude just running around on the elevated part before the gate, running back and forth with Wide Range and Free Meal chugging Potions like it was going out of fashion. Hero.
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u/chang-e_bunny 24d ago
Does Wide Range even reach down there?
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u/guri256 24d ago
Most of the field. It’s absolutely hilarious. In the second half of the fight a good healing build can actually heal faster than he does most of his damage as long as someone breaks his head a single time.
Even the attack where he hovers in the air and shoots out a giant cone of fire can be tanked as long as his fire isn’t blue.
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u/Matthiax 24d ago
Played HH for worldborne and now wilds. Always packing wide range and free meal for you folks
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u/DrParallax 24d ago
In Iceborne I was farming Valkhana and always put it as an open multiplayer session to speed things up. The bad thing was we would fail the mission about 30% of the time to one person carting a lot. I switched to wide range HH and still fought the monster, but also kept everyone alive. Almost never failed a hunt after that, and the hunts went even faster than normal with everyone always healed and having attack up constantly.
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u/spartancolo 23d ago
When I got the support set in world and was bored I used to run vaal and raging brachy to help people kill it. That build makes it sooooo easy
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u/ironchefdominican 24d ago
LOL! At least he didn't get carted. Two people joined my tempered gore hunt, got carted each, then just left.
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u/ShamooAran 24d ago
I've only tried the fight twice and both times one of my randoms got triple oneshot ☹️ like bro you were not ready for this, quit ruining my hunt
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u/boobers3 23d ago
I can't get mad, sometimes Tempered Gore just gets you. I just had a run today where Gore reared up and 1 shot the entire team, instant hunt failure. I couldn't do anything but laugh.
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u/ironchefdominican 23d ago
i wasnt upset, there are some moves it does that are really quick and will catch you off guard. I ended up completing it with the supporter hunters.
I was just annoyed they left. Like stay and try to finish the fight.
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u/Burntoastedbutter 23d ago
I had a game today for a tempered gore Hunt, and 3 people got stomped at the SAME TIME. I already fainted once prior, so that was an immediate mission failed LOL
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u/el-guapo0013 24d ago
206 without horn? How much fucking mats did he bring to keep making potions and drugs?
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u/beepbepborp 24d ago
the power of the mushroomancer build, my friend. mushrooms, so many mushrooms
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u/mjrballer20 24d ago
Thanks! That helped!
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u/BitingArtist 24d ago
You know as sword and shield you can do this because you can use items with your weapon out.
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u/elysecherryblossom 24d ago
idk if it's different in wilds but i usually still sheathed anyway bc it was quick af on SnS and using items with your weapons out prevented you from being able to run like when you normally use them so u could get bonked a lot by faster monsters, obv for items that make u stationary anyways like a whetstone or traps it doesn't really matter
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u/Restaldte 24d ago
I do this with a gunlance because quicksheathe exists and wide range mushroomancer is too much fun carrying randoms with
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u/Tao626 24d ago edited 24d ago
When I was playing Rise again with my partner on the lead up to Wilds, we would make a private lobby for two people.
Occasionally, when setting a quest up, one of us would do it wrong and accidentally make it public. No matter what HR/MR we were (started fresh), the ONLY person who ever seemed to join was the exact same horn user.
What did he do? Stood at the back playing songs and getting smacked by the monster. 50/50 chance that when we fucked up and he joined, he was going to triple cart us.
Hunting Horn holds this special place in my heart where I would always like to have one in the party, but too often it ends up being some useless "member" that just stands at the back playing solos and not actually helping as though it has no offensive moves. This has happened in every MH game for me. A competent HH user is amazing, a bad one is the worst.
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u/Delicious_Pancake420 23d ago
You actually found one? A mystical corner horner? I only ever heard of it but never encountered one myself. Its an entire meme in the hunting horn community and they heavily disapprove of that playstyle in general.
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u/HAT3xTH3xGAM3R Tacklemonster 24d ago
the power of friendship and mushrooms cannot be understated. im a GS main and have mushroom 3/friendship3 fitted into my build
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u/Maverick_Reznor 24d ago
I played with someone last night who just kept the party healed through the entire fight as well. I never thought I would tank and spank Tempered Gore, but here we were throwing caution to the win cause we just kept getting healed. Quickest tempered gore hunt ever.
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u/VerticalCenturion 24d ago
People really sleep on wide-range and its applications
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u/TenseiA 23d ago
It's also really fun! I've been using a Support SnS build with the Lala Barina weapon. I get to keep people alive and then trigger paralysis a few times when the fight's going well. It's super good.
Had a Lance, a Dual Blade, a Hunting Horn (not sure which one, but it was offensive buffs focused), and then me as a healer. It was basically a MMO party and we kicked major ass lol.
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u/VentusMH 23d ago
Wide Range HH/SnS goes hard, being an all round hunter (Defensive/Offensive/Support) is extremely rare and if the person can keep its own weight against T. Gore… yeah that hunter is a beast
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u/CorporateSharkbait 24d ago
I did this for my friends in a lower level hunt since all my gear is higher level. Brought the rathian horn and my para dbs. Would buff and heal then occasionally jump in to paralyze. My current record is 54 buffs I need to up that game
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u/Primary-Key1916 23d ago
This is a legit thing. I love them and I played a bit heal/support in world myself
Free meal, wide range, recovery up, something something shrooms. Pockets filled with everything that Buffs abd heals and stuff that paralyzes and sleeps enemies.
Your group won’t get Carted. They can focus on damage all the time
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u/Expensive-Amoeba6032 23d ago
My mom has been running a full support wide-range build since World (no horn; mainly using SNS and not attacking lol), all she does is put up a Ghillie and provide buffs and heals to the team all throughout, normally while my dad and I slay out. It's so cool to see more people with this kind of playstyle tbh
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u/Tseiryu 24d ago
Leech's never understood the corner healer love like having lifepowders and maybe running wide range on some sets is fine but if your not doing anything except corner camping and spamming potions i just don't you there my palico can do the same and contribute more
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u/DyslexicBrad 24d ago
It's true, healers should be green dps. After all, dealing damage is damage mitigation.
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u/tnsaidr 24d ago
At least he did something. The other day was in a group for tempered ark.. When I joined the hunt, the LS guy carted , when I got to the ark , he wasn't there so I thought, maybe changing items or whatever.
Many minutes later, noticed he still wasn't there, (someone had joined the fight and I thought this new person was that guy)) , the both of us took down the mob and the ass appeared. The speed he got there meant he probably followed us around
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u/blueasian0682 24d ago
With non offensive skills now not limiting dps builds on your armor slots, this is very much accessible for mushromancer and wide range builds.
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u/IllState5161 24d ago
This is the power of SnS Mushroommancer. I can run around, buff myself, everyone around me, and do good damage with good mobility.
I am The Medic.
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u/darkflamelagiacrus SPINNY WITH SWAXE 23d ago
bro just said: "no horn needed.....domain expansion infinite heals and buffs"
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u/ItsScootyBro Heavy BG Main 23d ago
Support HH member checking in. I love being a support person.
Running around with so many heals, buffs, and two different horns LMAO.
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u/BackgroundBarber7137 23d ago
I think his ronso brethren broke his horn then he spec'd into the thief tree to support by using items... Poor hornless.
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u/Ninja_Jho 23d ago
Give that individual a cookie. I'll take a lazy buffer over a freaking crown chaser!
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u/Niceromancer 24d ago edited 23d ago
Unfortunately Thor has started to directly encourage corner healing using mushroomancer and wide range.
People please do not corner heal, or seikret heal, or whatever the fuck it is.
Your buffs do not make up for your lack of damage, and you do not make your team immortal or immune to one shots etc.
Get in there and hit the monster.
Edit some people have taken this as me saying not to heal and support.
I personally have a wr/mushroomsncer set myself i use to support my team. Unlike corner healers I still get in and fight with either sns for para/sleep or horn for attack up L etc
But I'm still hitting the monster, still contributing damage, spamming traps, pods etc to give my group openings and break people out of bad situations like pins.
What I'm not doing is sitting on my seikret for a significant part of the hunt bragging how I make everyone else stronger. Cause everything i do to make others stronger also applies to me.
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u/Berrythebear 23d ago
If you are dying to the one shots from full health that’s a you issue. I’ve literally never seen anyone complain about having a dedicated healer in MH in 15 years of playing until Thor started doing it.
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u/Niceromancer 23d ago
Horse shit people have been saying corner healing is bad since horn was added.
I didn't say healing was bad I said corner healing is bad.
Staying out of the fight and not engaging with the monster is a significant DPS loss.
always has been, the buffs a full support horn player provides do not make up for the loss of damage from that player not hitting the monster, and any hunter worth a shit is already bringing demon drug and armoskin anyway.
If you want to buff and support the team with wide range and horn skills I'll gladly welcome you. And if you feel you need to be away from the monster to apply the buffs safely that's fine too. But if I see you sitting on your ass away from the monster doing nothing else I'm kicking you from the quest.
Get in there and fight. Don't sit outside the fight and hide.
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u/Kuwabara03 24d ago
Those are rookie numbers even for someone buffing and fighting simultaneously
What a weird playstyle lol
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u/chang-e_bunny 24d ago
Over on r/huntinghorn, we can put up 200 in a 5 minute hunt!
It's easy if you have a horn that can spam something like health recovery on loop. 1 echo bubble to set up the first one, then two flourishes to queue up another 2 health recoveries. That's 6 heals every 10-15 seconds or so. Does the game multiply it by the number of teammates?
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u/edgy-meme94494 24d ago
Mfs who are a support sword/shield and use horns are fucking legends and always deserve the respect for the work they do, legit always make hunts so easy because of em
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u/legacyxi 24d ago
I like running a support build on my hammer to force people to buff up. Sure I could go full damage build, but it's more fun to see someone about to be nuked and chug a potion to get them through it.
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u/duhCaptain 24d ago
Makes me think of not being able to clear behemoth on MHW until a random with sword and shield and wiggli lichi helm showed up
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u/GrlDuntgitgud 24d ago
What's his build? I want a wide range mushroomancer but atill collecting decos. Not sure if there's a wep/armor for both already. 50 hours in and I'm still a noob in this.
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u/Teguoracle 24d ago
Can someone redpill me on mushroommancer? I've never tried it, but seeing people in here rave over it is making me want to.
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u/Psicrow 23d ago edited 23d ago
I run a dps build but always slot rathian horn as my secondary. For tempered gore and ark, I pop attack up L and Recovery Speed L, place three healing echos then swap, usually to gore bow or HBG. every time the monster moves I reapply horn songs and echos and swap back.
The passive healing means that even after getting hit for 90% they're usually back up to 50% quickly. Maybe more important the echo healing negates chip from accumulating, so shield users never have to back off to heal themselves.
All off this being active for three minutes even after swapping off means I get to run horn as an off field weapon while still being mostly a dps.
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u/Upstairs_Marzipan48 23d ago
Shit, id be worshipping him in chat.
You're telling me I can go buck wild AND get buffs while doing it. Sign me up, makes my main character syndrome happy
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u/RockSkippa 23d ago
Fwiw I’d rather someone fuck off than get carted. At least this dude is healing lmfao.
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u/di12ty_mary 🦎╗ TCS is love. TCS is life. 23d ago
Dude is somehow playing GU Alchemist Mushroomancer. 😂Fucking legend.
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u/hughmaniac 24d ago
If he wasn’t contributing damage, he’s actually kinda griefing. Like, wide range/free meal/speed eating is amazing, and quickly healing others w/ SnS is great for letting them continue their onslaught, but standing in the back doing no damage just makes the fight go on longer than it needs to.
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u/MikeXBogina 24d ago
Y'all playing with other people? Me over here only playing with Alessa, Olivia or Rosso(preferably Rosso).
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u/ChaosDragonFox 23d ago
Same here! Rosso even healed me once during a Nu Udra fight!
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u/MikeXBogina 23d ago
It's so fast how he does it too. I watched him mid shooting a monster to quickly shoot me a heal and immediately continued shooting the monster like it only took a split second to do lol.
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u/W4nT4n 24d ago
How do you actually get enough materials to buff so many times for a group? Like, I guess I could do like... 10? And 5 are those 3+2 group heals from life powder/dust (forgot their names).
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u/Shiverlynn 24d ago edited 24d ago
Free meal (chance not to consume the item on use) and enough mats to craft more (for mega potions you bring a full stack of regular potions and honey then craft on the fly when you run out of your first batch).
I'm a full-time healer in MH, it's my favourite playstyle. I do damage too whenever I can, not just staying in the corner chugging potions. Recently I've gotten enough mats that I can afford to pop a might pill after each potion since I already have the weapon sheathed anyway - nice damage buff for the entire party. Everyone also gets free mega demon/armordrug at the start of the hunt, dash juices, stamina refills when someone mounts a monster, dispelling and detoxifying with nulberries and herbal remedies... It's fun.
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u/KS-RawDog69 24d ago
Free meal is incredible. In World when we fought monster with a tendency to cart I'd be rocking my HBG still but wide range and free meal too. Could keep the group going for a looooong time. Mushroomancer? Forget about it monster, just lay down.
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u/Danny_dankvito 24d ago
Tigrex Armor Boosted Free Meal could give you 75% chance to not consume items
This includes Ancient Potions
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u/CorporateSharkbait 24d ago
Just know that the majority of ppl in this Reddit are not the majority of the community. Honestly some of the generally best online communities I’ve been apart of in game. People are more than willing to help in whatever way works best and share knowledge
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u/Doctorobvious139 24d ago
Bro unlocked the chemist class in monster hunter