r/MurderedByAOC • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 2d ago
AOC leads Schumer in head-to-head New York primary matchup by double digits
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/04/schumer-aoc-poll-primary-new-york-030621586
u/SnooRadishes8848 2d ago
LFG
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u/trebory6 2d ago
I too am looking for game. Anyone on Helldiver's tonight?
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u/TheRealClovis 2d ago
SES Fist of Family Values reporting in
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u/trebory6 2d ago
Wait, did you look that up or is that really yours too? That's literally the exact name of my ship too. hahaha
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u/Inkstr0ke 2d ago
Helldiver Dale Earnheardiver of the SES Distributor of Democracy reporting in. 🫡
(Edit: if only the game allowed me to name my ship the SES Intimidator…)
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u/slappy_mcslapenstein 2d ago
Good. Chuck Schumer is a pussy ass bitch who should have been voted out of office years ago along with a lot of the democrats' old guard.
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u/dan_pitt 2d ago
Schumer is a darling of the israel lobby, and they dislike AOC. The pro-israel trolls are already spreading lies about her on bluesky.
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u/engineeringsquirrel 2d ago
Old guard needs to fuck off. They just rolled over and took it with the last round of senate confirmations without any sort of fight.
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u/000100111010 2d ago
Democrats have been rolling over and taking it for decades. Without people like AOC and Sanders they would be completely useless. Worse actually- complicit by inaction.
"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"- US Democratic party motto.
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u/eatsrottenflesh 1d ago
Come on now, isn't that a little harsh? They tried nothing and they're all out of ideas. /s
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u/0xffff0001 2d ago
AOC for president!
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u/Jibber_Fight 2d ago
The DNC would probably go against her. Cuz ya know. They’re old morons.
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u/Vladd_the_Retailer 2d ago
Fuck the DNC then. She can run independent. Bet she’d win too.
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u/Jibber_Fight 2d ago edited 2d ago
No. Then a Republican would win. That’s our country. I’m not saying she shouldn’t run but just saying that it would make me extremely nervous that the DNC would not help her cuz they enjoy the establishment also. She would be labeled a socialist. The media would be against her as well. People hate women. Even other women. It would be an election run of epic stress to everyone. Kamala couldn’t beat fuckface because of the absolute shit people in this country. AOC would hopefully get the idiots who don’t vote out and get the younger generations to vote. But that is also easier said than done for a young woman running for president.
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u/laivindil 2d ago
Imagine how it went for Bernie, but with sexism thrown in and that's what I unfortunately see for AOC. Because I see her as the one to take the torch from Bernie when he retires from politics.
I was excited for that when he ran, hopeful for that time to come when we got Biden and Kamala instead, and after kamala's loss, kinda hopeless for AOC's chances. Because the country seems to be moving further away from the Bernie and co. Maybe we're going to eat enough shit over the next few years that democratic socialism becomes enticing, but we're probably going to just beg for more.
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u/ahyeahdude 2d ago
Even without a third party splitting the vote, the Democrats still lost in 2024.
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u/Semi-Pros-and-Cons 2d ago
I think it has more to do with them serving the same kinds of owners that the Republicans have. The US government exists in order to make sure that billionaires and large corporations get more money. That's its only real purpose. The Democratic Party in general is the center-right version of that, and the Republicans are the fascist version.
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u/xwolfionx 2d ago
I’m down for that. She wouldn’t be scared to call out a republican candidate on stage. Fuck decorum, I wanna see AOC murder candidates on stage with logic.
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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c 2d ago
I have never seen a senior statewide officeholder deep fry their career more quickly than Chuck Schumer has here
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u/AlternativeWalrus831 2d ago
AIPAC is gonna go INSANE. Good.
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u/starliteburnsbrite 2d ago
I wouldn't be so happy about that. Last primary season they poured money into defeating progressive challengers and were very successful, getting several incumbents tossed from Congress. AOC not having a job in Congress because AIPAC buries her would not be great, just sayin.
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u/thot-abyss 2d ago
Not just AIPAC but Blackstone too (the founder of BlackRock) which is his top campaign contributor.
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u/beeemkcl 2d ago edited 2d ago
RESPONSE TO THE ORIGNAL POST AND THE THREAD:
What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.
AOC would have beaten US Senator Chuck Schumer in 2022 and they both knew it. It's why US Senator Schumer was being more progressive than he usually was.
AOC would have beaten US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand in 2024 and they both knew it. US Senator Gillibrand was openly concerned about her seat until AOC announced she wasn't going to primary US Senator Gillibrand.
All quotes from: Poll: AOC leads Schumer in head-to-head New York primary matchup by double digits - POLITICO
It is unclear what the Schumer-Ocasio-Cortez poll could mean for the New York primary in three years, however, with surveys this early rarely being predictive. Ocasio-Cortez has also been noncommittal about a potential Senate run. Schumer has filed paperwork to run for reelection.
Frankly, this poll isn't at-all interesting to me. I'd more far more interested in a poll regarding the Governor of New York race in 2026.
AOC is on US House Energy and Commerce:
House Committee on Energy and Commerce - GovTrack.us
The House Committee on Energy and Commerce has legislative jurisdiction on matters related to telecommunications, consumer protection, food and drug safety, public health research, environmental quality, energy policy, and interstate and foreign commerce. It oversees multiple cabinet-level Departments and independent agencies, including the Departments of Energy, Health and Human Services, Commerce, and Transportation, as well as the Environmental Protection Agency, the Federal Trade Commission, the Food and Drug Administration, and the Federal Communications Commission. (source)
The only US Senate Committee more powerful is US Senate Judiciary and AOC isn't a lawyer. She doesn't need the US Senate to get more media attention. The US Senate would be a demotion for her unless it's guaranteed she'd be US Senate Democratic Leader. And it's more likely she'd be US Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Finally, it's better for AOC to run for POTUS in 2028 than run for US Senate. If she wanted to be a US Senator, she could have run for US Senate in 2022. Or 2024. She didn't.
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u/NYCinPGH 2d ago
She doesn’t need to be a lawyer to be on Judiciary. Al Franken served on Judiciary, and he was one of, if not the, best members of that committee. You just need to be sharp, so your research, and hold them all to the same high standard.
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u/Fitz_2112b 2d ago
As much as I love her and would vote for her, its been made VERY clear that a large portion of the country will just not vote for a woman POTUS, and especially not a brown woman POTUS. She's got plenty of time.
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u/LilliaHakami 2d ago
I genuinely don't believe that it was women so much as Hillary Clinton being incredibly unlikeable and unpopular, and then Harris running initially on progressive statements, but then going full neo-von and running a 90s republican campaign. Dems can't win by running as Republican-lite and arguing the other side is racist and out to destroy your democracy (even if it's true). Especially, especially when everyday people are struggling under the extremely low buying power of the end of capitalism and rise of technofuedalism. Like, people are struggling and your running around with the cheyneys talking about tax breaks for small businesses. People just realizing that the Dems won't break economic ranks with the Republicans so they just didn't show up.
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u/Ct94010 2d ago
I had a hard time believing the statement “America isn’t ready for a female President”. THEN, before this election, some undocumented Latin american laborers working for a contractor in my house opened my eyes when I asked if they were worried about Trump. They answered that they supported Trump (and said he will just deport the criminal undocumented workers, not people like them) and explained, “it’s not good to have a woman President because they’re not strong like a man”
Now I get this is anecdotal and they’re not even voters, and maybe not the most informed, but if these guys weren’t supporting Kamala even at the risk of getting deported, to me it indicated how how deeply still to this day misogyny is ingrained in American (and maybe Latin immigrant American) culture. (And I acknowledge that Mexico just elected a female President).
I used to say folks who wouldn’t vote for a woman aren’t really representative of how the nation thinks. Now I think that I and other men who are receptive to female leadership are the exception rather than the norm in American politics, particularly outside of the college educated demographic. Sadly. Maybe this will change, but seems like the Elon-Tate culture is growing among the young males in this country so I’m not as optimistic as I used to be.
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u/Fitz_2112b 2d ago
Now I think that I and other men who are receptive to female leadership are the exception rather than the norm in American politics, particularly outside of the college educated demographic.
Not only the college educated demographic, but also the coastal demographic. I am in NY and the men I know here, even not overly educated, would be more likely to vote for a woman POTUS than some independent from Ohio
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u/Nixianx97 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yet Latinos had no problem to hide behind AOC while she held seminars to protect their asses and rights against ICE and got threats from MAGA in return like she already hadn’t enough of those already.
How is this whole “women are not strong like a men” going now the man they wanted so much is just tossing whoever he likes into prison camps?
Honestly if she runs and those people dare to even think the same shite again. They deserve nothing.
Also sorry but saying that a Latino woman that is literally one of them and pretty much beloved by their community would get the same treatment because of some rotten mindsets is kinda silly.
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u/DenikaMae 2d ago
That kind of feels like that’s still misogyny, just the “Poor thing, Mommy will make it all better.” version of it.
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u/Nixianx97 2d ago
So she shouldn’t run because some guys have mummy issues? And we have to wait until they get over those issues to go forward as a country? What does this even mean?
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u/DenikaMae 2d ago
Oh I was just explaining the phenomenon, I didn't say she shouldn't try or that I don't support her 100%.
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u/mehtab11 2d ago
No need to spread misinformation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/25/elections-race-gender-split-ticket-data/
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u/think_up 2d ago
Recent research suggests that Democratic primary voters share this anxiety: They tend to view White men as more electable than women and minority candidates. We lack the data to conclusively confirm or debunk their concerns — at least on the presidential level.
But we’re talking about the presidential level.. and we’ve now twice rejected a female candidates both times they ran.
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u/mehtab11 2d ago
I see no reason to make the assumption that federal elections are more racist/sexist than state races in the Deep South. If anything the opposite seems more intuitive.
And making conclusions off a sample size of two rather than the entire data set of ~200 house races is irrational imo.
I would agree that we don’t have definitive data that being a women/minority doesn’t come with a disadvantage, but the little data we do have seems to suggest it is neutral or even actually helps.
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u/Fitz_2112b 2d ago
I see no reason to make the assumption that federal elections are more racist/sexist than state races in the Deep South. If anything the opposite seems more intuitive.
Some middle of the road, midwestern guy is not likely to vote for a brown, Coastal woman, no matter what her position is. Sorry, but thats just reality at this point. As a liberal NY'er, I'm all in, but I'm also pragmatic.
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u/mehtab11 2d ago
In house race elections in the Midwest they voted for women and minorities at the same rate or higher than white men. Your assertion is based entirely on your preconceived biases and not reality.
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u/Fitz_2112b 2d ago
And yet, here we are, stuck with trump
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u/mehtab11 2d ago
Again, sample size of 2 vs 100s. I would’ve gotten kicked out of my university if I tried making your argument.
Let’s just use basic common sense. Can you think of any confounding variables in a presidential election? Do you think maybe the economy and the candidates policies had more to do with the outcome?
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u/Fitz_2112b 2d ago
Comparing a national presidential election with 10s of millions of potential voters to a local congressional or state office race with a max of a few hundred thousand voters is not an equivalent comparison
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u/Embarrassed_Jerk 2d ago
Chuck, the Democrat senate minority leader, polling behind someone who hasn't even announced that she is running for that race yet.
Chuck should just retire and spend his time doing what he loves; chatting up sweaty republican men in the gyms
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u/yipanqui 2d ago
2028 is a long time out
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u/randomcharacters3 2d ago
Where Schumer would be running to be in office from the age of 77-83...he shouldn't even be running in 2028 but bowing out gracefully seems unlikely.
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u/FrostySumo 2d ago
Good this is the kind of polling we're going to need before the DNC DINOs acquiesce control of the party to AOC. Much like Obama you have to make her so popular that she can't be ignored without significant political peril.
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u/beatfrantique1990 2d ago
Her win would be an important step towards creating a real populist left wing movement in this country. The energy is real and there! It's up to young progressives to channel it.
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u/Semi-Pros-and-Cons 2d ago
As someone who lives in New York State but nowhere near New York City, I'd be very happy to have her as my senator. I'd even finally register with the Democratic Party just to vote for her in a primary (I never registered with any party).
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u/Strat7855 2d ago
I've been extremely skeptical of the what-ifs for her next move, but this one makes total sense. Gillibrand is vulnerable, too.
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u/yolotheunwisewolf 1d ago
We are probably about to see Democrats do the most corrupt thing that they have ever done
The biggest issue is that a huge part of them got backing from Israel and AIPAC
Allowing them to stay there for the little guy while still ultimately turning a blind eye to Palestine
It finally cost them and they have been outed as just as bad as Republicans when it comes to moving the country forward toward human rights
Primary and the majority of them is the way forward with more progressive and popular candidates
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u/ExcellentTeam7721 2d ago
For real. Enough. And I'm over this "Israel always" bullshit. Fuck Chuck.
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u/fauxregard 2d ago
Great news. Schumer recently said his job is to keep the left pro-Israel. I like my politicians to know their own job descriptions.
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