r/MurderedByWords Mar 16 '23

Murder Seems dead to me.

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u/themiracy Mar 16 '23

I think eventually governments may need to implement some kind of common carrier forced interoperability (much like you can call any phone number from any phone service, assuming you are paying for calling that destination country), and maybe set basic features that the services have to provide in an interoperable fashion, although maybe there would be some things you can't do when you're on a different service. Unless governments do it first. I don't want a lot, but basically just rich messaging with end-to-end encryption.

The points that the second person makes are really good ones and also highlight that messaging is a two-way or multi-way street. You can't just delete Facebook and start using Signal if you can't also get other people with whom you message to do the same.

And it's really hard - we were using iMessage but I wanted to use a non-Apple device, which killed that. Then we moved briefly to Telegram but then Wired did an expose that made me really question that choice. So now we're using Messenger, because it has the end-to-end. None of the popular options are really great, though, I don't like the idea of using Messenger, and Whatsapp looks like it was the winner of a "who can make a UX worse than Facebook" contest. But as the person said, the reality is that messaging is basically a necessity, and is rapidly becoming a must-have in the way phone service or internet service is a must have, except it's a Byzantium.

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u/Camimo666 Mar 17 '23

I don’t want to sound paranoid but i wouldn’t trust any app created by my current government. And some countries don’t have a good relationship between one another, so this might lead to competing apps and the people in those countries won’t be able to communicate with each other. Idk