r/MurderedByWords Dec 17 '24

#3 Murder of Week Is he just stupid?

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u/DogsOfWar2612 Dec 17 '24

Yeah rapists 

Whether male or female 

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u/EishLekker Dec 17 '24

There are plenty of people that enjoy those fantasies without being rapists or wanting to rape in real life.

Also, many with these fantasies want to be the victim. I suppose that by your logic those are rapists too?

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u/Piperita Dec 17 '24

Also there's been some research suggesting that at least some of the people with "seduction fantasies" develop them due to socially-induced feelings of shame about their sexuality (which is why they were so prevalent in romance novels of yore. If women were shamed and made to feel guilty about having sexual feelings, a male love interest who takes the choice away from their in-story stand-in meant they could enjoy the feelings without the associated guilt - hence, "bodice-rippers". The same likely holds true for queer folks too). That's not to say all kinky people are just ashamed or whatever, but there are a lot of shitty social things at play that should be examined BEFORE we start labeling people as being a "bad person" because they enjoy a certain kind of fiction.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Dec 17 '24

I know one person that wants to do things, but would never in a million years suggest those things because of one hang up or another. They'll even say no if you suggest it... but when you push, they'll happily give in while still protesting.

It's definitely not a game I'd suggest to most because you really really have to know a person intimately.