Yea, I think they called the forces in Europe something… Allies maybe? I dunno, can’t remember.
Also, I find it funny that Americans love to harp on the French for getting whooped by Germany when the American occupied Philippines folded faster than Superman on laundry day.
Also they spent 20 years in Afghanistan for it to roll up to the Taliban minutes after they left.
Wars are hard. Wars get lost. If any Americans don’t believe it, check the White House carefully for smoke damage.
Signed, a Canadian and forever ally to the true America and true Americans.
I think the scoreboard revisionist history is sick. Did Americans single handedly save the world with a WW2 victory of Germany? No, of course not. But, I also resent the "we could have won without you" b.s. too. It's disrespectful to everyone who fought. I mean, nobody in this Reddit thread did a damn thing either way. WW2 was over decades before most of us were born.
Truth is, yeah, Americans of voting age are all responsible for the sh..show in D.C. right now. It's a monstrosity. Shame on all of us for letting it happen. We have an administration obvs under the thumb of Putin, turning our backs on current allies for no apparent reason. For that, we definitely owe an apology to the world.
I get ya, just one sticking point: i gave money to the extent that it genuinely hurt to give to opposition campaigns and went through the meaningless exercise of going to vote in TN. Record turnout. No matter. Not even close. Red always wins. Could I have done more? No doubt. But I really was putting in more than it was comfortable to do. I REALLY cannot stand this point in our history. It's got "epically horrible events" stamped all over it. So here we go. Doesn't matter whose fault it was now. We're all in it.
I have a degree in political science. One of the biggest issues in the American system is that it assumes a lack of abundant malice from within. And I guess any system could say that- as when it appears, it is a good sign that the system has failed and it is time to move forward.
However, unlike most western systems, we don't have proportional representation or votes of no confidence. We don't have normalized civic education. We have insane stereotypes and they are propagated by politics. We have a huge left base in the country that has nobody to vote for. We have a massive population that forget that this country was founded on being left as hell, the most in the world. We have tons of people who have grandparents just fucking desperate to come back just to fuck up their jawlines for how they voted.
Without preportional representation, American have the choice of voting right, radical right, or "throwing their vote away.". Ita fucked. Nobody has a voice, and if the system is not completely changed in the next decade I think the United States with either have a new civil war or become a technocrat hegemon.
I live in Detroit. I have so many Canadian friends. My heritage can be traced all over but the central point before here is quebeçois. I love you all, and you have been great to us. Windsor craigslist is fucking horny as shit for some reason. You are right to be suspicious. But goddamn, it takes a LOT to drop everything. If I decide it is too much, please let me move 10 miles south and be a Canadian.
Anyone who says that any country single handedly won the WW2 is historically illiterate.
The best arguments go to the Soviets in Europe and America in the Pacific and even those have major caveats to the support both nations received from each other and the greater allies as a whole.
American here. Unfortunately, and fortunately, countries change over time. Americans fought in WW1/2 on the premise of helping our allies. We weren’t in the thick of it at home like all of our European allies…losing entire family lines in a moment, seeing our homes destroyed, our way of life decimated. Thus, I think that Europeans are thankful for the help from countries such as the US and Canada and Australia (and more), not only because they fought to protect freedom but did so without a true threat to our livelihoods back home where it was business as usual. Sending help (troops, weapons, money) to friends in need is the core principle of being an ally. I am hopeful that the existing American political circus doesn’t completely destroy our once “unbreakable” bond with Europe and Canada. They truly have been OUR allies for now over many centuries. Thank you Europeans (and you too, Canadians).
Historically, when the shit hits the fan, France backed us up. And we backed them up. And so it goes with our allies. All the other stuff is just noise.
I couldn't care less that in 2015 the Europeans "hated us brother". Whatever. We go weapons hot they have been there. Same for them. The rest is just a bunch of shit talk. We've done our fair share of it too. So, whatever you say there "brother".
When tanks roll in Europe i hope I never hear our Pentagon issue a statement like "they called us fat and stupid. So we're not gonna help"
However, if that statement were ever to come out of our official channels, it would no doubt be this whiny bitch administration we have right now. Thin skinned, easily manipulated with flattery, and inability to read anything that doesn't start with how great the clown in chief is. Oh his wonderful new clothes. This guy is NOT what we stand for. Brother.
Yeah so being there at the foundation of the US. Fighting, aiding, and supplying us. Recognizing and forming a formal alliance before any other nation. That was so long ago. Yeah - a pretty important time around...oh shit the founding moments and beginning of the US. Grow up? I'm grown. Served in the military. Onboard two US Navy ships way back in the 90s. You grow up. Weak.
What is this I am hearing a Trump justifying destroying an organization we started and used to win the Cold War? For no reason whatsoever Trump is trying to brun down this for his own benefit Trump is a criminal who should have gone to prison decades ago (rap ,froud )god help us!!😱😨😰😳😠😤
Historically we've been drawn into as much of Frances bullshit as they've been drawn into ours. Just recently one of the reasons NATO intervened in Libya was because refugees were flooding into Europe.
Whatever dude. France has been there and the US has been there. The UK has been there as well. It's not revisionist, this is commonly known basic historical facts. You have made no points of any significance beyond people "hated us and called us names."
Maybe America should join us Canadians as our new province? Health care and real beer!!! And the town I live in makes the only Crown Royal on the planet!!!
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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 13d ago edited 13d ago
I’m just here to attest to the fact that you thanked Canada.
Kind regards, your German neighbour to the east.