r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Tim Walz is not holding back

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u/Dornith 1d ago

Is there a source for this whole "no primary" claim?

There were definitely Democratic primaries in Missouri.

Is it because suggesting that if there were primaries and the people voted for the democrats candidate that said candidate would have won?

Republicans were all geared up to go against Biden. They had 6 years to prep and had their whole campaign ready. An incumbent president basically always wins their primary, no it was a safe bet.

Biden dropping out ruined all their plans. So they threw a tantrum and said Biden should be forced to run. Which is a stupid fucking argument; especially when you consider that they said he should step down.

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u/Quiet_Ad5539 1d ago

Okay, so I was missing information. I've been noticing the "no primary" comments a lot the past few days and I just didn't understand.

I hadn't really considered that there wouldn't be primary elections because Biden (in theory) would have run for a second term. Thank you

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u/Dornith 1d ago

To be clear, there 100% was a primary in every state. The idea that there wasn't is misinformation. It is completely possible (however improbable) that Biden would have lost the 2024 primary.

The only thing that is (tenuously) questionable is whether or not the front-runner is allowed to step out of a primary.

It's the front-runner specifically because losing candidates dropping out of the the race and signing their votes to someone else has been the norm for my entire lifetime and no one questioned until 2024.

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u/Quiet_Ad5539 1d ago

I reread your comment after leaving my reply and realized you did state that there had been primaries.

So it's wide spread misinformation that deserves to be downvoted. I understand now.

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u/dirty_cheeser 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, but the primaries were not serious primaries. Biden ran against people like dean phillips and Biden didn't show up to the debates. There was almost no media coverage.

What people mean when they say there were no primaries was that it was no competitive primary, they just ticked the boxes to fulfil the procedure. If the dnc wanted to run a competitive primary, they could have invited the serious contenders to run but then chose not to.

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If Biden decides to run for re-election and there is a primary challenge, DNC executive director SAM CORNALE told us: “We’re with Biden. Period.”

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edit2: Dornith. You didn't contest anything I said, this is essentially admitting your previousl comments were full of shit. Im not being hypocritical and I have none of the positions you assumed so you are attacking a stawman. And was this comment really block worthy?

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u/Dornith 1d ago edited 22h ago

Biden didn't show up to the debates.

You man kinda like Trump?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-skipping-republican-debates-dominating-primary-polls/story?id=104703039

No one questioned his nomination.

And why were all the Republicans demanding that Biden be the nominee if supposedly the primary didn't count?

Your take is hypocritical and doesn't even follow it's own internal logic.

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Tell me, when exactly did it become "illegitimate" for a candidate to drop out of a primary? Because until last July, not only was it "legitimate", it happened in basically every primary.

Not only that, but Republicans were calling on Biden to drop out of the race. Y'all are just bitter Democrats called your bluff.

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u/lifeisalime11 22h ago

Did you mean the primary in 2024 where Biden took the vast majority of votes? And Kamala wasn’t even on the primary ballot? You call that a legitimate primary win for Kamala?