r/MurderedByWords 14h ago

Tim Walz is not holding back

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u/TechnologyRemote7331 13h ago

The fact Harris’ campaign muzzled Walz when he could have been saying shit like this the whole time was a big fucking mistake. Christ, why wasn’t HE the god damn nominee?!

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u/Financial-Maize9264 10h ago edited 10h ago

Walz WAS saying shit like this throughout the entire campaign and got plenty of press, or did you forget the whole "weird" thing? Front page of reddit couldn't get enough of his quips. If the campaign ever "muzzled" him, it was only after he bombed his debate performance and let Vance make him look like a blubbering idiot.

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u/FlyingSagittarius 9h ago

He wasn’t allowed to talk to the press halfway through the campaign.  He was really only allowed to smile and act like Kamala Harris’s backup dancer.

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u/cape2cape 8h ago

Then why did he talk to the press?

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u/sniper91 9h ago

The “weird” messaging from him started before he was picked for VP, and it ended right around when the campaign decided they needed to trot out the Cheneys for some reason

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u/Obscene_Baked_Bean 9h ago

It was a crazy maneuver by J.D. Vance. He acted all fake nice and agreeable and Walz couldn’t cut through it. Now he is back to being rude and condescending so you can tell it was a one night play to throw him off his game.

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u/illapa13 8h ago

Because Vance is a professional when it comes to debating. I went to law school and Vance was doing very tried and true debate team strategies which obviously work on someone who isn't an expert.

Basically you start off every single statement by pretending to agree with your opponent just to undercut them in the second half of your statement. But since you came off as amicable and complementary in the first half of your statement, if your opponent comes after you aggressively, they will look like a rude asshole. It's a pretty good trick but it doesn't work on other lawyers it's literally just using his law school training to verbally beat up an amateur debater.

Vance is basically a snake oil salesman. No substance but great speaking techniques.

If Vance had tried it on Kamala she would have ripped him to shreds because she's a lawyer.

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u/sniper91 9h ago

Walz doesn’t have a debate team background, Vance does

Walz would likely do better in a debate against Trump, but it’s definitely a weak spot for him

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u/Atkena2578 8h ago

He would be demolished by Trump, not because Trump is a good debater or says anything true or smart, because he doesn't. But the gish gallop/reverse gallop "skills" he spews on stage would have made it hard for Walz to finish a single sentence or argument.

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u/sniper91 8h ago

Thing with Walz that’d work in his favor is his history as a public school teacher

He’s definitely dealt with a lot of idiot kids with stupid things to say; this would be his chance to actually speak his mind at one of these dumb assholes