r/MurderedByWords • u/james_dykeson • Aug 05 '19

Murder Murdered by numbers?

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u/JustASexyKurt Aug 05 '19

In before “LONDONISTAN, ACID AND KNIFE CRIME, NOT FAIR JUST TO COMPARE US TO SIMILAR COUNTRIES”

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u/AwesomelyNotAwesome Aug 05 '19

This but unironically. It is incredibly unfair to compare the US with it's vast geographic size, cultural division, demographics, and crime rates to a country like the UK.

Similar countries

lmao. Compare comparable cities, like New York and London. hmmm. Really gets the old almonds activated.

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u/you_lost-the_game Aug 05 '19

You really wanna go down this road?

What has geographic size to do with gun violence? I mean, it would kinda make sense if the population density in the us was higher but it isn't.

You bring up different crime rates as a reason to why not compare the US to the UK when talking about crimes rates? Are you for real?

cultural division, demographics

While this is just dog whistle for "the US has so many blacks and hispanics and that's why they have so much crime" it's bullshit whatsoever. A colonnial nation as the UK surely has more cultural variety than the US. The 4 countries making up the UK are reason enough. Not to mention that the UK is still part of the EU so there are people from all over europe living there.

You lose this argument everytime. Anytime.

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u/AwesomelyNotAwesome Aug 05 '19

Geographic size has to do with the cultural variety between say urbanite California vs Rural Wisconsin. These two are incredibly different, and lumping them together is being disingenuous.

Compare city crime rates, and the divide isn't as large as perceived. Again, see above.

Yeah, that is literally what it means. And your definitely right on the UK being diverse, guess who's committing the most crime..

Lmao. Sure lost this one huh.

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u/you_lost-the_game Aug 05 '19

Geographic size has to do with the cultural variety between say urbanite California vs Rural Wisconsin. These two are incredibly different, and lumping them together is being disingenuous.

Your point would make sense if the UK had nearly no rural population.

Compare city crime rates, and the divide isn't as large as perceived. Again, see above.

Regarding your comparision of crime rates in cities: The thing about lodon surpasing new york has already been debunked as inaccurate. In depth: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/03/20/lies-damned-lies-and-statistics-why-londons-murder-rate-is-not-higher-than-nycs/

Furthermore, crime rate isn't equal to violent crime rate or homicides. You can look up homicide rate of major US cities. Here's an not up to date version: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/18/world/london-us-cities-homicide-rates-comparison-intl-gbr/index.html

Ironically, San Diego with a high population of hispanics has one of the lowest homicide rates.

And the thing about cherry picking a certain crime statistic sorted by ethnicity is that it works both ways. You may want to look up which group of people is most responsible for domestic terrorism in the US.

Sure looks like "winning" to me.

And hey, you have forgotten your trump (pun intended) card: trucks of peace. I'm waiting.