r/MurderedByWords Aug 05 '19

Murder Murdered by numbers?

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u/terryjuicelawson Aug 05 '19

Also stuff like half of them being suicide. It is still a massive number, and is such an easy way to kill yourself a good thing?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '19

It's amazing how many people who defend gun ownership simply ignore suicides as if they don't count.

Guns increase both the rates of incidental, unplanned attempts, and the success of those attempts, because they're such a lethal method.

The category of people that try suicide on a passing whim but would have the best changes at improving their mental health and lead a otherwise happy life

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u/AwesomelyNotAwesome Aug 05 '19

Do you not believe people have the right to do with their own body as they please? And how does making it harder for a person to kill themselves justify disarming me from the number one effective method to defend myself, my loved ones, my property, and my freedom?

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u/xDared Aug 05 '19

Do you not believe people have the right to do with their own body as they please?

You don't need guns to kill youself.

And how does making it harder for a person to kill themselves justify disarming me from the number one effective method to defend myself, my loved ones, my property, and my freedom?

Because it makes it harder for any person to get killed, including your loved ones. Also, better hope those loved ones don't have any mental health issues that you may end up not knowing about, cause if they find those conveniently placed weapons it won't end up well.

It's also mentally much easier to off yourself with a gun than a knife, so just because someone will do it with a gun, doesn't mean they will stab themselves.