Edit: I had a comment ask for evidence based examples but deleted the comment before I had the chance to answer,. So, here is come examples. Note, some of these examples are before 2000, but I find that they still apply.
There are plenty more examples. Google Scholar and JSTOR are some great examples as to where to find some journals about it. JSTOR offers up to 6 free articles a month, I find it very useful for research at university.
Remember, being ignorant is a choice.
Edit 2: The wonderful u/theresamouseinmyhous shared this link about more history of institutional racism. There are 14 parts with the podcasts lasting roughly 45 minutes to an hour. Thanks for the suggestion!
That's not what is being done here though. Its blurring the lines by claiming institutional racism defines any and all racist acts. Its anti-intellectual oversimplification to justify racist abuse.
I 100% agree institutional racism is very real and very present. But you can't define every individual relationship and interaction by the average racial dynamic of the races of the participants. That's mirroring racist ideology.
Nah I was kind off in that I didn't realize the OP was actually talking specifically about institutional racism.
I just get frustrated when people (such as some in this thread) deny individual racism and individual power dynamics exist or that they can go against systemic norms. But there are plenty who deny systematic racism exists which is insane given the data as well so I understand your clarification.
It’s important to also realize that individual racism becomes institutionalized when racists gain power. Such as my example of Robert Moses purposefully creating low hanging bridges so inner city POCs couldn’t visit parks. Or how white suburbia was created in Levittown and town codes and redlining kept black families from becoming homeowners and leaving cities. Someone has to make these laws and regulations. It doesn’t just magically appear.
It's easier to deny than to educate yourself, no one want to admit that they were wrong. I understand your frustration. White people don't want to be portrayed as the bad guy years after slavery and segregation has ended but continue to benefit from the lasting effect that it has.
Its anti-intellectual oversimplification to justify racist abuse.
And rejecting a fundamental definition in the academic field of sociology isn't anti-intellectual? Unless you're a scholar in that field, you really don't have a leg to stand on besides "waaaah, the definition makes me feel bad."
Yeah sociologists don't have a consensus that there is only one type of racism and that it perfectly fits your narrative. Nice try though.
"waaaah, the definition makes me feel bad."
I'm not even mad. Racist abuse does make me feel bad.
Unless you're a scholar in that field, you really don't have a leg to stand on
I appreciate that this is a backwards way of recognizes you are wrong. Just deflect to credentials and appeal to authority. Can't argue against basic critical thinking so go for the fallacy and cringey fake quotes. Very woke.
Believing scientists is performative wokeness, and your gut feeling about a definition is equally valid as a sociologist's. Now those are the kinds of fiery hot takes I came into this dumpster fire of a thread to see.
fiery hot takes I came into this dumpster fire of a thread to see
Yes, you are so above it all. Actively arguing against critical thought and logic while paying lip service to it. So wise.
Deflecting the conversation away from actually discussion the definition into this red herring and argument from authority fallacy with no real basis in authority. So woke.
Thank you for enlightening me with your narrow understanding and attempt to dumb down a massive field of study into simplistic politicized rhetoric and talking points. /s
What you CAN do, however, is understand that all of our individual interactions take place within the greater context of our society. This is why "racism" against white people isn't actually hurtful - as the dominant class of people, racism's implicit threats aren't threating. Conversely, racism about black people inspires police shootings, lynchings, etc.
This is why "racism" against white people isn't actually hurtful
This is false via oversimplification. You are essentially claiming there can be no exceptions ever in the vast and varied human terrain. It maybe less impactful in some forms. But an individual racist act depends on the individual power dynamic AND the systemic power dynamic.
I'd like to hear your argument how the fist or a brick being used in a hate crime has less force if the victim is white for example. Or even how being fired because of your race is different than your new boss has no impact if you are white. It just doesn't stand up to critical thought.
Systemic racism is a real. But individual racism is also real. Ignoring one or the other is just living in fantasy land.
Where I personally think this stuff goes wrong, is that a lot of these theories come with the idea that they're somehow removed, that they're neutral observers, so to speak. So the idea that these theories come from the same systems of racism/sexism/etc. is never really explored, and it's a place where I think we need to go.
The concept of monodirectional identity-based power dynamics is something based off of racist assumptions of powerlessness and agency. Then you put on top of that the assumption of lower socioeconomic class (And quite frankly, I would argue that in the West this is THE big racism that exists in our society), and you can quickly see how this stuff is a problem.
I'm not saying that there's not actual systematic racism against minorities. Far from it. But we have to acknowledge that these theories often come from a place in our society that has long enforced and encouraged these divides and bigoted ways of thinking...academia...and is probably the first to require massive amounts of reform.
Congrats, you found an example of prejudice. Good work!
Black people migrated to city centers to avoid being lynched, are overpoliced and over sentenced and murdered by police, and one white kid got beat up once. All the same severity!
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u/skullsquid1999 Dec 11 '19 edited Dec 11 '19
Institutionalized racism is very, very real.
Edit: I had a comment ask for evidence based examples but deleted the comment before I had the chance to answer,. So, here is come examples. Note, some of these examples are before 2000, but I find that they still apply.
Political Inequality
Employment Inequality
Effect on black health.
Effect on black education.
There are plenty more examples. Google Scholar and JSTOR are some great examples as to where to find some journals about it. JSTOR offers up to 6 free articles a month, I find it very useful for research at university.
Remember, being ignorant is a choice.
Edit 2: The wonderful u/theresamouseinmyhous shared this link about more history of institutional racism. There are 14 parts with the podcasts lasting roughly 45 minutes to an hour. Thanks for the suggestion!