Nobody gets "pushed" into having sex by words, that's not how human behavior works. If that would be so easy wouldn't you think that specific people would be less dissatisfied? If you could just insist and it would happen, wouldn't you think that would all be easier then?
"Not taking 'no' to mean 'no'" is based on how the "no" is transmitted and expressed. How is the intonation, what is the body language, is it jokingly? Testing? Demanding? Words and signs are not that simple as words only get meaning via non- and para-verbal cues - that's how comedy works as well btw. Heck, reddit has a whole sign to identify sarcasm. In reality a no is not a no "in specific situatiosn". But there are clear negative "nos" and those are also taken as that. Nobody gets trained to push again, if someone clearly shows disinterest and ignores you. That's also part of the PUA field - identify when it's a waste of time, as it's a numbers game. Trying hard to pick on that one girl which clearly showed disinterest is not part of any PUA approaches.
It's taking rejections lightly and move on quickly - it's not "Not understanding rejection", it's the opposite. It's weird how people can forcefully misinterpret that as it is clearly communicated everywhere: it's about not taking rejections so hard and move one. "Moving on" is the identifier which should tell even the darkest bulb that it doesn't mean "keep on pushing if there is no sign of interest".
You willfully misinterpret that part to strengthen your narrative.
Please stop diminishing the value of the term rape with inflationary using it for all kinds of normal human behavior that you dislike.
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u/sobrique Jan 08 '20
The other parts of the PUA community include not taking 'no' to mean 'no' and continuing until they give in. Also in exploiting alcohol.
It's not violent sexual assault down a dark alley, but it's very definitely pushing towards getting sex from a person who's not fully consenting.