r/MurderedByWords • u/CouchTomato212 • Jan 08 '20

Murder Promptly blocked after this

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u/ourtimeforchange Jan 10 '20

Thank you, that is as much of a fair point as I've heard so far. That is not to say I agree in the least because I think those things are worlds apart.

Negging or push pull serves to create tension and fun and so is supposed to be beneficial for both parties when done right.

Being controlling and putting down your partner is detrimental both for you and your partner as well as for the relationship. A case I have heard pua teachers like rsd Owen and Todd V etc explicitly make. Also the old Neil Strauss rule applies here of leave her better than you found her, if you want to talk old school mystery method stuff.

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u/selectrix Jan 10 '20

You're thinking of teasing, which is healthy. The difference between negging (emotionally manipulative) and teasing (healthy) is that with teasing, both parties should be in on the joke.

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u/ourtimeforchange Jan 11 '20

Your are semantically manipulative 😁 I am definitely thinking of negging. She doesn't have to be 'in on it' either. The purpose is to create tension that makes for a good and enjoyable experience for both parties.

Emotionally manipulative... What does that even mean? It's not like it's magic that deceivingly makes her like you against her will. How do people not get this. Like if a girl wants to be with you and gets to, you don't think she likes that? You think she would rather meet someone that doesn't know how to create tension? Game done well is certainly of benefit for all parties. Like if she isn't having a good time, it isn't good game.

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u/selectrix Jan 13 '20

Yeah, she does have to be in on it. Otherwise it doesn't create a good and enjoyable experience for her. Why would it, it's literally insulting.

Emotionally manipulative... What does that even mean?

I suppose it's one of those terms you'll just have to learn for yourself as you get older.

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u/ourtimeforchange Jan 14 '20

Yeah, she does have to be in on it. Otherwise it doesn't create a good and enjoyable experience for her. Why would it, it's literally insulting.

Emotionally manipulative... What does that even mean?

I suppose it's one of those terms you'll just have to learn for yourself as you get older.

I guess the problem is you just don't really understand tension can be somewhat uncomfortable and still be exhilarating.

The question is what it means in this context. Because it's not obvious at all, as you make it out to be.