r/SelfAwarewolves 14d ago

Conservative finally gets BLM

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u/asking4afriend40631 14d ago edited 14d ago

But the conservative likely firmly believes black people are not discriminated against, that systemic racism didn't exist, etc. every black person who was killed by the police did it to himself by committing crimes, by running, or by resisting. And if those don't apply then it was just a fluke, could have happened to anyone of any race. So, nothing was learned this day.

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u/Steinrikur 14d ago

We call this white male privilege. They never learn

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u/certified-busta 14d ago

i used to be a real big piece of shit because i was effectively brainwashed by my parent and this fucking cult

i very easily could've been one of these scumfucks but i managed to figure out that i was being manipulated and i got myself outta there

i still have a lot of deep shame and regret over that period of my life, i try to channel it into doing good and using my position as a cis white dude to advocate for others

some of us do learn, but we need to know it is possible to change

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u/onefoot_out 14d ago

I'm happy you're still here, and trying. Don't stop supporting others that need a hand up. 🫰

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u/certified-busta 13d ago

if i have to spend the rest of my life trying to redeem myself, i'll do so gladly

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u/atatassault47 14d ago

i still have a lot of deep shame and regret over that period of my life,

Im sorry. But you realized bad people were trying to program you, and you escaped. That's awesome. But dont beat yourself up over it. Free will doesnt exist, we're just flesh robots, and you cant hold yourself accountable when someone was constantly pushing your buttons to cause you to act in certain ways.

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u/certified-busta 14d ago

i like the expression "it's not my fault but it is my responsibility"

i was exploited and manipulated, but i still feel like it was a fundamental failure of character on my part

i feel like i should've been stronger, better than that, like i let down people who needed me to be better

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u/creamalamode 12d ago

The ability to see fault in what you were taught shows that you are willing to think critically. I'm sure we've all had views that have changed over the years that we aren't exactly proud of. I'm proud of you for your willingness to understand multiple viewpoints.

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u/EnvironmentalHour613 14d ago

They can only be made fun of.

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u/az_catz 14d ago

When our response to any criticism is to further embrace fascism, then it's fine.

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u/seafoodboiler 4d ago

Oh there are plenty of conservative white women with this mindset as well.

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u/McdoManaguer 14d ago

Yes you can see it on ANY police brutality video, which admittedly happen to both white and black people (more to black people tho and usually much harsher). But holy shit the comments are just a complete whiplash when it comes to the VICTIM OF THE POLICE BRUTALITY being black.

They look at Daniel Shafer and are rightfully completely outraged but then they hear about Brianna Taylor and lose their shit about her being a drug addict that hangs out with criminals.

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u/Marsuello 14d ago

I have family who will say racism towards black people doesn’t exist, then proceed to watch Fox/newsmax and call any left leaning black person that comes on the n word. Also they like calling black history month the n word month. So yeah, these people are idiots

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u/IlGreven 14d ago

But I firmly believe Tesla drivers are not discriminated against, that systemic bias against Elon Musk doesn't exist, etc. every Tesla driver who was shot by protesters did it to himself by being a Nazi, trying to kill them first, or simply being a jackass. And if those don't apply then it was just a fluke, could have happen to anyone driving any car.

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u/tooobr 14d ago

You're already advancing the conversation past where they are.

I would at least respect the honesty of someone who disagrees with BLM or civil rights or DEI because they genuinely do not think that discrimination and systemic oppression meaningfully exists.

They should just say that, if they actually are confused or disagree with those ideas. Good luck arguing it, but its at least a straightforward stance. Its coherent. De facto racist and wrong, but coherent.

They are not even past the point where they can accept that attempts to help underprivileged people compete fairly is NOT a way to secretly punish white people.

No properly implemented DEI or affirmative action scheme should disqualify you from consideration from a job you're qualified for. No person should be given an interview on the sole basis of their race. Conversely, nobody should be excluded on the basis of race. Simple, really. That is, if you actually care about merit and think an inclusive, diverse society is beautiful.

I think they're just scared to compete on merit rather than the pool of candidates being artificially restricted because of longstanding, demonstrable exclusion.

I think its mostly just smoke to cover their discomfort with going full mask-off and saying "discrimination is the cost of doing business, we won, you lost, rules ain't changing now. I am not interested in competing fairly on merit."

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u/Radiant_Quality_9386 2d ago

I would at least respect the honesty of someone who disagrees with BLM or civil rights or DEI because they genuinely do not think that discrimination and systemic oppression meaningfully exists.

Willful and violent ignorance isnt honesty

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u/McCaffeteria 14d ago

Then we apply the same logic to the cyberturds. They all did it to themselves by self destructing, and if they didn’t then they deserved to be trash compacted anyway.

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u/FROGxDELIVER 14d ago

Statistics are your enemy

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u/Suttonian 14d ago

No, they aren't.

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u/FROGxDELIVER 14d ago

This is a good watch about the subject. I'm open to hear if or how the professor is incorrect though. He sites the Washington post, US Census, and a few others, but researchers can skew data

https://youtu.be/FBpPSVQHSmk?si=2wM-spnc5lX22B8W

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u/Suttonian 14d ago

The video demonstrates it's not as bad as many people imagine. However, I don't think it's necessary to prove the professor incorrect to demonstrate that discrimination is real because there are plenty of statistics that do demonstrate it (that are not talked about in that video).

example: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-0858-1

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u/FROGxDELIVER 14d ago

I don't think anyone would argue that discrimination exists and that it's bad. However, if you're talking about systemic racism then that's much harder to prove.

When certain races do more of the serious crimes like murder, I think it's logical that certain races face more scrutiny. It's the small bad apples that ruin it for the rest. For example, here:

https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/

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u/FROGxDELIVER 14d ago

What's interesting I found from reading ur article is that Hispanics were less likely to be stopped, and in my article, they're less likely than whites to commit violent crimes.