r/ShitAmericansSay 4d ago

Ancestry American and Proud to be Swedish

My boyfriend sent this to me and I thought it belonged here.

What did the song “awaken” in you? And how the hell are you American and Swedish? (For ref- they said in other comments that they are from the USA and have never been outside the country)

It’s a fire song btw- and it’s in Swedish. They have an English version, but he and his friend like to listen to it in Swedish and I leach off his YTmusic lmao and their Spotify…

10/10 Sabaton is an amazing band 🇸🇪 💛

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u/BelowXpectations 4d ago

Sorry dude, you are not Swedish any way, shape or form. And we are truly thankful for that!
Now stop tarnishing our good name and go back to your bag of Cheetos.

/All swedes

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u/BelowXpectations 4d ago

I disagree. Malmö is a quite nice city that has gone from a dull industrial city to a much more modern and upbeat city in the last 30 years.

Sure there are some shootings (i guess that's what you refer to, or are there other things?; Do tell). But that's not all that Malmö is and definitely not all that Sweden is. Besides, it's not like Denmark doesn't have it's own issues with biker gangs, etc. Not to mention that Paludan is danish and the cause of a lot of problems in Sweden.

When people talk about "former glory" it always gets me worried. I don't even understand which period you mean? 17th century when we occupied Denmark? :) I'd rather wish for a good future then some "former glory" for anyone, as we have all evolved as a society over time. I really don't want to return to any period of time in the past and loose that progress.

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u/RainonCooper 4d ago

I agree with the Swede on this one. Between Denmark and Sweden I feel like we’re both currently doing fairly well

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u/pannenkoek0923 4d ago

Hvornår besøgte du sidst Malmø? Det er et meget charmerende by og ret sikker. Dens ry er i høj grad propaganda. Alle byer har nogle usikre dele

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u/BelowXpectations 4d ago

Tack nabo!

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u/Amahagene1 4d ago

Dont bring Sabaton into this, they are crazy enough 🤘😎🤘

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u/1zzyBizzy OG Harlem 4d ago

Wait is fried pickles actually a thing or is that just an expression

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u/mtaw 4d ago

Apparently it's a thing in the South. Can't say I've noticed it even though I've visited a number of southern states (all the ones on the Atlantic coast) Ironic he's saying he's as American as a thing they don't eat in most of America.

OTOH Americans also like to say "as American as apple pie" which is just bizarre since practically every country in Europe (and parts of Central Asia) has had some version of apple pie since well before the USA existed.

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u/NeverendingStory3339 4d ago

In which case, American as apple pie = American as an American who insists they are Swedish really

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u/DazzlingClassic185 fancy a brew?🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 4d ago

The American apple pie, which it turns out is actually British!

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u/Bdr1983 3d ago

I've been to the US quite a few times, and 1 deli I used to frequent offered 'Dutch apple pie' which in no way looked or tasted anything like an apple pie from the Netherlands. The owner asked 'and how would you know, you've ever been there?'
Well yeah... I live there.

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u/rymic72 4d ago

It’s actually a thing. I had them twice on a visit years back and they’re rather good if you enjoy gherkins.

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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Groningen💚 4d ago

No idea, but it honestly sounds better than our Dutch chocogurk.

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u/kroketspeciaal Eurotrash 4d ago

Godvernondeju! Moet je die nou écht benoemen?!? 🤮

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u/1zzyBizzy OG Harlem 4d ago

Ja echt he, gadverdamme gast… doet me ook denken aan de crompouce 🤢

Anyway this comment section is

G E K O L O N I S E E R D

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u/Bdr1983 3d ago

Gast, moet je ons nou weer voor lul zetten?

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u/_Vae_Victus_ IT'S NOT AUSTRALIA GODDAMMIT 4d ago

Spoel je mond met zeep, ketter.

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u/Szarvaslovas 4d ago

Fried pickles are real and surprisingly tasty. One or two of my favourite pubs in my town in Hungary sell it and it’s great.

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u/zeelandicum 4d ago

Disgusting is what it is.

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u/Jack-Rabbit-002 4d ago

I'm glad someone's asking the real questions because I couldn't get past that either 🤢

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u/International-Cup897 4d ago

Jävla U-land

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u/JamesDeezNutz 4d ago

I ate some Swedish meatballs and went to IKEA today. Then I played Minecraft. I’m proud to be Swedish

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u/krgor 4d ago

Mein Kraft? You must be German.

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u/ckn 4d ago

good greif, i'm an American who got a Swedish citizenship and learned the language and I genuinely dislike those "oh i'm swedish people"

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u/Shastlz84 4d ago

How much do we wanna bet they don’t understand a word the song says

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

Oh, they definitely don’t.

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u/Corvidae_DK 4d ago

"I show my strength through strife/war" might be the part that resonates with them...

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u/Spare-grylls 🏴‍☠️ 4d ago

It awakens my desire to assemble flat pack furniture

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u/Bdr1983 3d ago

I get that when I hear Valhalleluja

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u/janus1979 4d ago

And I'm quite sure the actual Swedes will thank you for your service!

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u/mtaw 4d ago

I'd imagine Sweden responding: "We'd really prefer if it awoke your desire for universal health care, extensive parental leave for both parents and affordable day-care, since we tend to care about that stuff a lot more than things that happened 300 years ago."

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u/timkatt10 Socialism bad, 'Murica good! 4d ago

Why that would just be socialism.

  • Some USAian

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u/Pontius_Vulgaris 4d ago

Communism!

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u/Remruna 4d ago

Yeah, that's definitely what this means;

Jävla jänkare, dannebrogens skugga är mer svensk än vad du är. 

Definitely me thanking this "American-swede" in swedish... which I am sure he speaks. 

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u/Corvidae_DK 4d ago

Bland lige vores flag uden om det her :p

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u/Remruna 4d ago

Sorry, not ment as a disrespect towards you our your lovely flag.❤️  I just needed an example of something 100% not swedish, not even in the slightest still being more "swedish" than the yank. 😅

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u/Tilladarling ooo custom flair!! 2d ago

Sibling squabbles 👀🍿( 🇳🇴)l

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u/janus1979 4d ago

I wish i was multilingual.

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u/Remruna 4d ago

Translation; "fucking yank, the danish flag's shadow is more swedish than you are". 

 Not my best burn I admit. 

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u/janus1979 4d ago

However, still true nonetheless.

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u/DeadNinjaTears Europoor 4d ago

Oh brother 🙈 it doesn't awaken anything at all. #stopculturalappropriation

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u/Savage-September ooo custom flair!! 4d ago

So funny when Americans do this.

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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste 4d ago

If a Sabaton song doesn't awaken something in you, then you're probably dead.

That said ... it's just music, man. It doesn't communicate with the ghost of your ancestors residing in your blood, or whatever. You're still an American, calm down.

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u/nurgleondeez balkan trash 🇷🇴 4d ago

I listened to Shiroyama once and now I am a full blooded japanese samurai.

I have 0% japanese ancestry,I can't ride a horse and I would probably kill myself by accident with a katana.But damn,that song really makes me want to die for the Shogunate

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u/jolle2001 4d ago

I listened to Shiroyama and became Saigo Takamori

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u/HonneurOblige 4d ago

We're all Swedish when it comes to the masculine urge to see Carolus rise.

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u/OcculticUnicorn Cheesehead Dutchie 🧀🇳🇱 4d ago

While assembling furniture.

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u/Halfdwarf 4d ago

Not all. Free women and men of Skåne will never bow down before a swedish king. Snapphanarna shall rise again! 😁

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u/Aremeriel 3d ago

Norway wants Jämtland and Härjedalen back ... Yes, that was before Charles XII.

When he tried to invade and occupy Oslo (then Kristiania) a canonball got stuck in a wall. When the building was torn down and rebuilt, they stuck it back in the same place ... :D

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u/Seidmadr 4d ago

So! In the next round, do we assume the revolt will end by Denmark burning the Scanian countryside again, and Stockholm sending food?

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u/Halfdwarf 4d ago

In the next round we declare independence from our colonizers. Freedoooom!

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u/GamerALV 4d ago

SABATON SPOTTED

hell yeah! :D

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

Lmao- this and The Last Stand are the only ones I’ve listened to. You’d have to take that up with my boyfriend (I’m really excited for him cuz he recently got his citizenship and got married to his husband and I refuse to shut up about him)

He’s at a Rodeo and sent me pictures and said “Am I American enough yet?”

I love this man 🏳️‍🌈

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u/GamerALV 4d ago

Understandably so, he sounds like a great guy

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u/Glittering_Cut_4094 4d ago

Americans be like: I’m basically Italian because my great-great-granduncle once ate a pizza

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u/xzanfr 4d ago

You can appreciate a culture without pretending to be from it.

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u/_mocbuilder 🇩🇪Rearmament is my *passion* 4d ago

How dare you disrespect Sabaton with this cringe, ancestorial fuckery. Although it does awaken something in you, because its good fucking Music. Yes, Sabaton can make you feel Patriotin for another Country, doesnt make you swedish you cunt.

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u/YogoshKeks 4d ago

I think the US is just a made up fantasy place where mysterious blood magic really does work.

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u/Theresafoxinmygarden 4d ago

SABATON GANG RISE UP

I WAS CHOSEN BY HEAVEN!!!

SAY MY NAME WHEN YOU PRAY TO THE SKYYYYYYY SE CAROLUS RISE!!!

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u/GamerALV 4d ago

WITH THE LORD MY PROTECTOR

MAKE THEM BOW TO MY WILL

TO THE SKIES

SEE CAROLUS RISE

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u/Square_Ad4004 4d ago

Quiet down, or I'll tell your mums.

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u/Theresafoxinmygarden 4d ago

ALL THAT'S THINE SHALL BE MINE THERE'S NO STOPPING ME!!!!

ALL OVER EUROPE MY RULE SHALL BE QUESTIONED BY NONE!!!!

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u/Square_Ad4004 4d ago

Yes, yes, we've all been thirteen and excitable once, we get it. You're super into this band, they're like super awesome and cool and everything, we get it, but that's no excuse for multiple exclamation marks.

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u/Aegishjalmvr Only here to laugh at stupid americans 3d ago edited 3d ago

The use of multiple exclamation marks is a sure sign of a diseased mind...

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u/Square_Ad4004 1d ago

I was also reminded of Sir Terry. :)

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u/FroztyBeard 4d ago

My response to that: Oh you are swedish? Write the lyrics in Futhark for me

/ A swede

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u/404enter 4d ago

My rule of thumb for nationality is first country is the country you were born in, second country is the one you live in.

Example: Irish Frenchman. Someone born in Ireland, who currently lives in France

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u/Sorbet_Sea 4d ago

Looks like almost every (Caucasian?) American wants to claim another nationality (and please don't start arguing that those lunatics are claiming a cultural heritage and not a nationality).

STOP pretending you have fictitious nationality when:

1 you don't have the passport/ID card of said country

2 you don't speak the language

2 you have never been to that country and know nothing or very little about its customs, History and so on...

and for the record: I was born in South Korea, got adopted by my European parents and can rightfully claim back my Korean nationality but:

- I don't speak the language and can't even pronounce the basic sounds correctly

- I know nothing about the customs, business culture and so... (and have 0 wish to learn as I will never go to that country)

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u/Legitimate-Site8785 4d ago

My parents are Cuban, but I'm American. However, here in America, if you're not white, people will ask "where are you from?". And 9/10 times if you say the state you're from, they will still follow up with, "but your parents". That being said, I know and have known plenty of Americans who's family's are entirely from another country (Latin American countries mostly), who are for what it's worth, the closest version to being FROM that country you can get while technically being an American. For example, Spanish was my first language growing up, my parents were the first in the family to learn English fluently. None of us served in American wars, and for the most part stayed in Latin enclaves as, for our family as Cubans, they had to be claimed/sponsored by Cubans living in the U.S. already to be able to come over. There are things that I had to learn a lot later in life as an AMERICAN. Eye opening moments at bars when everyone is singing the same country song that I've never heard in my life.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, there are 100% plenty of Americans who love to claim a nationality (or shit even Native American heritage down the line) yet don't know a fucking thing about this other culture. I mean not even a fucking inkling of it.

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u/Far-Garage6658 4d ago

He is not swedish if he doesn't watch eurovision.

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u/BoltersnRivets 4d ago

Sabaton is the kind of band that gets you feeling patriotic not only for countries you have no connection to, but countries your country has fought against. they just know how to write songs that get you hyped for what they're singing about

every time it comes on in my playlist Valley of Death has me rooting for Bulgaria against my own country LMAO, not that I'm particularly patriotic but Sabaton just evokes that feeling in its fans.

"Their attack is coming fight them back
Bulgarians holding the line
Facing wave after wave, will never surrender
Again, again, again, again!"

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u/GamerALV 4d ago

"They attack, Bulgaria held them back

Unleash their counter-barrage

Let it rain, artillery pounding the trenches

No surrender, fight them 'til the end!"

Absolutely love that song and the band <3

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u/Ecstatic_Effective42 non-homeopath 4d ago

We see you.

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u/Remruna 4d ago

🎶 you are not swedish unless you are born and raised here, get it into your heaaaaaaaaaad...🎶

Distant swedish ancestors does not make you swedish. Your name can be Sven Svensson, eat fika every damn day and even speak swedish it  🎶doesn't make you swedish.....🎶

But fuck yeah, Sabaton is the best 🤟

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u/Flashignite2 4d ago

Just because you have ancestors far down the line who moved to America doesn't make you that nationality. By the same logic I'm part british and part german only 5% each but still. Never seen myself as any of it since I am born and raised here in Sweden. I might even be part Danish since I live close to Denmark and this part was Danish at one point in history. Even further back I (like every human) have roots in Africa, but I am not African in any way.

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u/ClientClean2979 4d ago

Schizophrenia its a wonderful thing in the right hands !

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u/slimfastdieyoung Swamp Saxon🇳🇱 4d ago

I listend to Entombed and At The Gates the other day and I boudht a piece of furniture named after an Abba member. I'm proud to be Swedish!

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u/Ok_Pen_2395 4d ago edited 4d ago

I’m norwegian and I feel absolutely nothing, thank god. (But keep håkan and everything astrid lindgren away from me, makes me wanna eat overrated crayfish and sing stupid songs)

(Disclaimer: only swedes are allowed to bitch back, everyone else step back.)

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u/The_Ugly_Fish-man 3d ago

I like the smoking snakes music

(BRAZIIIIILLL CAMPEAO DO MUNDO NUMERO UNOOO)

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u/weltwanderlust 2d ago

I also like to listen to Wardruna. Helvegen touches me in a special way (don't ask me to show on a doll where, I won't)

That doesn't make me a Norwegian.

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u/AssTonPotato 2d ago

Ok, yall, I know we love Sabaton, but can we try to keep this on topic? I don’t wanna get in trouble with the mods haha

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u/El-Sopas-CAP 2d ago

Oh, so if im a Spaniard and I listen to Albanian music, therefore, I am a proud Albanian.

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u/sum_r4nd0m_gurl 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Nah666_ 14h ago

American: im from swedish

Me: oh... fantastisk, Hvor bor du??

American: what??

Me: ahhh.... Amerikan :/

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u/Brave-Town6273 4d ago

So my last name originate from a Nordic name obviously my family has some Viking descendants but the only nationality I am is what my parents are and where I was born Welsh and English otherwise I’d be every bloody nationality under the sun even though I only have English and Welsh traits and only speak English and welsh

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u/Reynolds1790 4d ago

I have to agree, Sabaton are an amazing Swedish band, and my favorite, umm they have songs about people from Germany, America, Britian, Belgium. France, Australia, Canada, Sweden. etc

However after listening to them, I must be all of the above, and all at once

some of my favorites, not necessarily in order of favoritism

Franz Stigler from Germany

The winged hussars from Poland

Francis Pegahmagabow First Nations from Canada

Bull Alen from Australia

Albert Severin Roche from France

Carton de Wiart from Belgium

Audie Murphy  from the USA

Milunka Savić from Serbia

The Swiss guard from Switzerland

Lawrence of Arabia from England

Carlos rex, Charles the XII of Sweden,

Al of these have Wikipedia entries if you are interested.

As a Swedish band they also have a few songs about Vikings as well, to get those Viking genes flowing

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

Yes! We stand for Sabaton! Not for this particular Merkican dumbnut

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u/CommunicationNeat498 4d ago

I've seen Sabaton at a festival once. The shit that the singer talked between songs was leagues better then the actual songs tbh 

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u/fodahmania 4d ago

Sabaton is a dog whistle for nationalists. They also played a show in occupied Krim that was organised by Putin connected far-right biker gang the Night Wolves.

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u/no_fucking_point More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 4d ago

Nothing worse than a Sabaton fan.

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u/GamerALV 4d ago

Nothing better than a Sabaton fan imo, every community has rotten apples like the ones in this post. Just because a couple people are like this doesn't mean the whole community is. In fact, after having been an avid Sabaton fan for several years, their fanbase has always seemed kind and supportive as far as I've seen. If you're not very invested in their music and don't spend time with the community, I can imagine that you can occasionally see Sabaton fans being bad people because they stick out though.

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

What?! My bf loves Sabaton and I think he’s pretty cool

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u/OcculticUnicorn Cheesehead Dutchie 🧀🇳🇱 4d ago

Because most of tbe time the Americans have never been to their so called 'lineage' country. They don't understand how life, culture and mannerisms go. Just because some ancestor came from there doesn't mean anything. Europe is a melting pot too, the difference is we don't go by ancestors, grandparents are closest but after that? Nah. We go by how we are raised.

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u/OcculticUnicorn Cheesehead Dutchie 🧀🇳🇱 4d ago

From this reply alone I can see you've never been here.

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u/Corvidae_DK 4d ago

Because they don't understand the difference between Lineage and culture/nationality.

They love to claim heritage from all sorts of countries they know fuck all about while screaming how "murica" is the greatest country ever.

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u/Corvidae_DK 4d ago

Yeah I'm totally gonna take a conservatives word for that.....

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

Hey you will use anything but the metric system. IF YOU MAKE THE DAMN MOON ARGUMENT I AM GOING TO SCREAM

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

What I don’t understand is why these AMERICANS would rather claim another nationality and culture rather than be… American? As an American, I don’t get that.

I’m surrounded by people who aren’t originally (idk if that’s the right wording) American, and they are more proud of this hell-hole than most “patriots” any other day. My boyfriend is Welsh, his husband is Chinese, and our friend is Russian. Two out of three of them (bf’s husband isn’t this adamant) would probably go to war for the US if it weren’t for the way the politics turned (not gonna get any more political than that).

Sorry for the rant it’s just so confusing to me.

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

I’m confused about Americans not wanting to be American.

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u/AdmiralPegasus Aotearoa 4d ago

You say this as if you think the United States is the only multicultural country in the world, and the only one with a concept of a Chinatown. There's one in Westminster in London which used to be in the East End before it got damaged in the Blitz. They've also got 'em in Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, and Manchester, and they've been there for as long as yours have. Even Berlin has one.

Many other countries, particularly other post-colonial ones, have all of those traits, but none of the rest of us do this weird shit where we insist upon genuinely being the same nationality as our heritage and go to other countries and get disappointed when the locals don't welcome our presumptuous arses "home." My parents and grandparents are all English, I have never in my life called myself English because I'm not feckin' English and I've never set foot anywhere in the UK, let alone in England!

It's not that you're "proud of your heritage" that pisses us off. It's that you're presumptuous dickheads stepping on our toes yelling about how amazing your heritage is when you almost universally know fucking nothing about it other than offensive stereotypes, who then yap about how amazing you are for caring about it when you're just being knobs and patting yourselves on the back as usual.

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u/Corvidae_DK 4d ago

Gotta love that good ol' Murica-splaining...

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

I am American, but claiming a nationality that isn’t yours is not ok under any circumstance. If you’re not Swedish, you’re not Swedish. Simple.

Oh, WAIT! You don’t agree that this is cultural appropriation, do you?

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

No no- if they were from Mexico, and came to America, they are Mexican American

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u/Reynolds1790 4d ago

There is nothing wrong with doing genealogy and being proud of your ancestors.

I have Irish, Scottish, and English, ancestors, some of my Scottish ancestors came through Canada and some of my English ancestors had a long stop over in the USA for over 150 years, before moving on.

I just call myself Australian. Not an Irish-Scottish-English-Canadian-American Australian.

The countries that my ancestors left for in the 1600's, 1700's, 1800's and 1900's are not the same as their modern counterparts. Sure I am interested in the history of the countries they came from, or had long stop overs in, but I do not identify myself with these countries.

I do understand for example, that an American claiming to be an Irish-American, do in most cases mean that they are American with Irish Ancestry. However at least according to social media, you get those who claim to be Irish-American, and then claim to be more Irish than the people who actually live in Ireland.

By that reasoning, I could claim to be more American than Americans, who are actually living in the USA because I have some American ancestors. And that is just plain stupid.

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u/Exciting_Taste_3920 4d ago

Why can't non-Americans just accept that when an American says he is Swedish (or any other nationality) what he actually means is that he is of said heritage? Can we just move on?

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u/Nekyia__ 4d ago

No, because they're fucking American.

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u/AdmiralPegasus Aotearoa 4d ago

Because that's not how language works, and it's not how the vast majority of y'all who are vocal about it practically discuss the matter either.

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u/Exciting_Taste_3920 4d ago

I am not an American

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

Ok, and?

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u/AdmiralPegasus Aotearoa 4d ago

Cool. It's not how the vast majority of them who are vocal about it practically discuss the matter either.

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u/AssTonPotato 4d ago

As an American, no ❤️🤍💙 Because, unless they’ve got dual citizenship or something, they are not that nationality. It’s borderline cultural appropriation.

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u/Erkengard I'm a Hobbit from Sausageland 4d ago

"I have swedish heritage". Bam. There. Easy to understand and no lazy US lingo needed.