Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/thescoop/comments/1jrr0rc/obama_imagine_if_i_had_done_any_of_this_imagine

Context: R/thescoop is one of hundreds of r/news offshoots

HIGHLIGHTS

This clown is what led to Donald Trump x2.

Uh no, racism is what led to Donald Trump x2

If you think racism is what got trump elected and not the democrats ruining America yall run your mouths about the tariffs last time i checked under democrats these last 4 years gas tripled in price inflation is at a all time High and thats before trump was in office aka biden and his methhead son yall loved so much your the reason america is cooked your blind

It’s easy to argue when you just make stuff up. The country was economically strong under Obama. Relationships with allies were strong. He was super moderate in everything. The country was doing really well. You all were just racist.

The country was doing really well by all metrics after Obama. He really cleaned up the recession mess and kept us on an upward trajectory. And I say this as a progressive who voted for Obama but really felt let down by him while he was in office. Economically tho, he def did a good job. Idk how people can even deny that.

O-Blamer 🐒

Try not being a mediocre white so DEI doesn’t affect you 🔥

Just like the a liberal, thinking I am white. Hahaha

Let me guess "1/16 Cherokee on your Mom's cousin's side"

That would be one of your wacky liberal politicians.

Yeah that was a cringe moment for sure when she said that 😆

Reminder that Obama built the concentration camps and signed infinite detention into law literally setting Trump up to take it further. 2 wings, one bird and all that.

Classic, “the other party has done it too” pathetic. Cry about it. Your economy is being dismantled

Well if both parties have done it, then the political apparatus is inert, yet you want everyone up in arms about Trump. Pick a side: logic or TDS

Absolute false equivalency. Trump is doing so much damage, and spitting out unconstitutional EOs like confetti.

Well my false equivalency was in response to the straw man…so address that.

How is that a straw man?

he got away with being a fuckin war criminal, thats more than enough.

even got a Nobel peace prize

its insane to think about the fact that a man who authorized more drone strikes in one year than Bush did in 8 and finished his presidency simultaneously bombing like 7 different countries, got a fuckin nobel peace prize.

he was surfing the crest of the military/industrial wave and all momentum pointed forward. with the congress he had, stonewalled from the get... dude ended up less effective than we hoped but he ain't bad like these folks.

he came into office with a super majority and spent the next years placating conservatives. Also, coincidentally immediately forgot about codifying roe v wade or providing universal healthcare. He started talking about those things again when he no longer had the leverage to get either done.

This fcken hypocrite. Bails out wallstreet, the banks, the globalist elites, and corporations with our tax dollars all while expanding the drone wars, to name two of many things.

Like trump is so great. Loser.

He is doing as we have told him to do. America is back. Enjoy the ride. I know I am.

What timeline are you referencing when you say “America is back”? Back like we were…at what point in history?

Mid-October 1929.

He big mad, bro. Too bad.

Too bad for America.

What Obama thinks and does matters little to me or the rest of America. He had his turn. He should probably spend less time trying to save America and more time trying to save his marriage.

He should just get a mail order bride who doesn’t care if he sleeps with porn stars and grapes other women like a big tough guy right?

Sure. Maybe he will get a woman this time.

Oh mask off with the racism.

Im sorry but there are plenty of things he could have pushed for but he didnt. He had control of house and senate. I love Obama but he was weak as shit too and could have done more. DEMS didnt feel the pressure bc the majority of them are elite rich too. This is a class war not a party one.

Have you forgotten all the good that was attempted that was opposed and blocked by Republicans? It was a repeated cycle for 8 years. He was supposed to do so much more. It wasn't passed. Whatever we managed to get, we're extremely lucky to have. Especially as the Republican president that came after made sure to undo his moves.

He had control of both houses. He could have passed laws that wouldn't be so easily overturned. He could have reformed out voting system. He chose to leave money in politics because it benefited him and even Kampala. They get that money. They dont give it back. They rather be millionaires in a billionaires world than lose power to help the poor.

They didn't have filibuster proof senate, so there was easy opposition to getting his policies passed. You can see how much the republicans gutted the ACA, and yet still bitch about it flaws, that they forced in.

Yeah he said he wouldnt pass without bipartisan support which was dumb. Fuck republicans or needing them to pass legislation. Funny how they have no problem saying fuck democrats.

That’s utterly ridiculous.

No, it's true. Obama was cool but he was also a dyed in the wool centrist neolib and that showed in his policy.

No it’s really not true.

How do you figure or are you simply disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing?

I will repeat my statement. It is simply not true, by just about any measure.

Well damn it, I was pretty sure Barry was just an egotistical useful idiot for the defense and health insurance industries but this insightful commentary convinced me that he's actually George Washington 2.0!! Obama '28!!!

MAGA

So brave for a bot

You really think 70% of America is Bots

Reddit is a liberal filled echo chamber and in no way indicative of actually political views in America. It's funny the Dems call republicans bots, but the majority of bot farming on Reddit is democratic posts because the majority of Reddit is liberal. So they know that gets them the most engagement. It's pretty smart. Kinda like how Facebook has a bunch of republican mom groups with bunch of bots

Majority of the country is liberal..

Keep telling yourself that and we'll see how the next election goes lmfao

This is a literal fact sport lmao, pretty common knowledge or so I thought

Imagine being the president that codified the ability of the intelligence community to propagandize the country, start the modern drone campaigns, and deport more people than any president in history.

Yeah, Obama was just another corporate democrat. Still not a fascist dictator like your boy. With any luck he has overplayed his hand this time. Once MAGA starts to feel the cost of living crisis that is coming the Senate and the House will turn on him.

Imagine believing that attempting to actually find a solution to a looming economic crisis is a bad thing. The economy is cooked whether this hail Mary tariff play works out or not. Covid stimulus expanded the money supply so much that we're still only experiencing expected market corrections. The bad hasn't even started. But blame orange man if that makes it easier to get out of bed in the morning. There's not a single politician that cares about you.

Ah yes, the looming financial crisis they heroically saved us from by starting a financial crisis. Thanks for wreaking my investments and killing my small business!

If you think Trump started any of this, you don't know how anything works.

Trump’s tariffs absolutely caused this, enjoy the new recession

I don't even like the guy, but he didn't start this. He reacted to forces already at work. Whatever man, I've done my quarterly scream into the void on a political post. I'll go back to my model aircraft, magic the gathering, and cooking subs now. Enjoy!

Short term memory, eh, big O? Because the MSM seemed real quiet about your scandals. Fast and Furious anyone?

Please elaborate

Google it.

The proof is on you to provide information. Something to support the claim that you agree with above

Not when something is known common knowledge. At that point it's on the witness to use common sense and accept basic facts. If you're not aware of Obama's blatant abuses of power & failed foreign policy affairs, that's not on the accuser, they're well documented history.

Obama was the worst president ever.

Still scared of him huh?

Im more so scared of his wife’s Mushroom Tip

No ideas in that hollow noggin of yours that fox didn’t put in there for ya, huh champ?

Just that it might be bigger than mine all, buddy.

Look at you, over a decade later and still fantasizing about Michelle Obama having a dick measuring contest with you and being dominated by them.

He still holds the deportation record of all time. Can't take that away from him

Someone got but hurt. Hey chimp betcha Obama never shipped anyone off to a foreign concentration camp.

Chimp?!? Straight to the racial slurs with you. I'm not surprised, I said something you disagree with.

Misinformation? Yeah, that's a bad thing, dumb ass.

Your option matters. Just not to me. Stay weird.

Wait.... Biden did briefly pull Fox News credentials. To be clear, Fox News was, in fact, working in bad faith. But what alternative reality are you folks living in? Like cmon, this is hilariously hypocritical.

Fox News was very favorable to Trump, but they no longer can be. So if the criticism is that Fox News is acting in bad faith, and people can see that, the. It would be hypocritical to dig at Trump for it. But since Fox seems to be actually criticizing Trump, not acting in bad faith, simply doing their job, Trump is not curtailing a bad faith actor. He is petty, and is punishing those who would dare criticize his kingship in his castle. Do the democrats do some hypocritical things or use bad faith in some exchanges? Yes, they do. And they are stupid to do it. But this is not one of them.

You don't have evidence that fox news is criticizing Trump. I know because watching Fox news, they're still celebrating Trump.

They were pretty hard on Elon yesterday

By their standards sure, but they’re literally a propaganda wing.

And CNN and MSNBC aren't? When was the last time they recorded Trump live rather than commenting on contextless soundbites?

Idk I don’t watch them I live in DC and have a pass and attend Congress and senate floor semi regularly

Does he mean democrats, because they have been pretty silent as well.

What can they do with republicans controlling the 3 branches currently?

Try watching something that isn’t Fox News and you’ll see well for starters they could’ve tried harder beforehand. Democrats have a tendency to ignore the problem until it’s beyond their help, and then they whine about it and ask for our help.

Profoundly stupid to keep blaming the Democrats for Republican behavior. You're just doing what Russia has trained you to do. Yes, we know it makes you feel smart. No, it doesn't make you look smart to other people.. You look like a thoroughly owned child.

Two things can be true. Not everything is black and white. Republicans suck for constantly trying to undo our progress. But democrats also suck (albeit less) for consistently failing to fix/prevent republicans messes, even when they have the power.

Just goes to show how weak the Democrats are that they allow this behaviour. I'm not American, thank fuck! But all Obama's doing is highlighting the fact that nobody is standing up against the destruction of the United States, Dems are either a toothless tiger, or they abide by what Trump's doing.

Ok, what should they do that they haven't done?

The same as what the GOP would have done, cried blue murder till the cows came home.

They have dumbass, the president called us the enemy within and the Republicans loved it, they pardoned the people who tried to overthrow an election for him, he's been impeached two times, he was found guilty of 34 felonies for bribery and fraud related to hush money during the election. My dude, what else you got because your plan sucks soooo hard.

Bit hard to take someone with your username (penisweinerballs) seriously I'm sorry.

My username means you can't come up with a plan? If you got one say it, if not stop pretending like they're so dumb for not doing this obvious thing you won't share.

Imagine if I lied to Americans about Russia gate knowing it was a compete lie but I’d use it to try to influence the 2016 race and use that lie to illegally spy on my political opponents campaign. Wait..

Imagine actually being dumb enough to believe that the Trump campaigns collusion with Russia was a "hoax".

Did you read the Durham report, my friend?

Did you read the Mueller report, my friend?

Where he concluded the Russians attempted to interfere through social media but there was no evidence linking the Trump campaign to those efforts? Yes. Now go read the Durham report where he concluded the DNC was pushing misinformation to the American public and using that to justify legally assaulting their political opponents.

You clearly did not read the Mueller report LOL

I’m curious why you think that. Can you show me where this is constructed specifically? If you asked I can at least give you specific page numbers.

Edit: I don’t really blame y’all for disliking bombing my comment. I get that this sub thrives on anger, so whether or not you actually think I’m Biker, I was going to get dislike bombed regardless.

Thanks! After watching a bit more of his channel the kid is a dbag. Definitely deserves more than this one FAFO moment.

lol whatever you say reddit user 3_fast_5_you.

The biker should be giving more room to prevent an accident. But this didn’t teach him that. This taught him people are bullies.

Main Thread

Nintendo Switch 2 preorders will not start on April 15th, according to Nintendo

Comment Thread 1

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"If you voted for him, this is your fault."
(Main OP)

"The impact of tariffs on the Switch 2 launch/price are the least of your worries.
The guy is a literal maniac."
(Comment)

Comment Thread 2

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"Tariffs are good. Stop making it sound like they aren't. America deserves to get our jobs back."
(Main OP)

Comment Thread 3

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"This is a political post. Surely that's not allowed here right?"
(Main OP)

"everything is politics you bitch"
(Comment)

Comment Thread 4

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"Voted for Trump, I’ll gladly pay the tariff increase. My job in manufacturing is already seeing MASSIVE booms in business as everyone is desperately trying to find domestic products opposed to foreign. There will be growing pains but overall it will help many Americans. I also work for a great company who has nearly doubled my starting income in roughly 6 years, and continue to give us cost of living raises every 3-6 months."
(Main OP)

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"Oh no we can’t buy our video games made by child wage slaves in poor working conditions as soon as we thought 🙄"
(Main OP)

Comment Thread 6

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"You know what? Good. Everybody else has been taking advantage of us by tariffing American products. If they don’t like that we tariffed them just the same they can stick it."
(Main OP)

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"Nintendo is not happy with the #droptheprice movement and wants to do damage control by putting out this statement in order to control what the media is writing about in order to drown out the annoyed consumers."
(Main OP)

Comment Thread 8

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"FAFO moment for all Trump voting Nintendo fans."
(Main OP)

Context for anyone unfamiliar with the game, Space Station 14 is a social deduction RP game, where you get assigned a role on a spaceship. For example, security, medical, engineering, genetics etc, and do various tasks to keep the spaceship running, while RPing in-character. Similar to games like Among Us people are also randomly assigned various evil roles, that can vary from killing specific players, or nuking the entire spaceship.

OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/ss14/comments/1jrfnq8/24_hour_ban_appealed_on_discord_to_get_a/

Banned for 24 hours due to minor verbal exchange with administrator where I made statement that they were abusing their powers. Then received permanent ban on game and discord when I tried appealing and got the same administrator judging my ban appeal. Which is an obvious conflict of interests.

Does anyone else think issuing permanent bans for appeals an abuse of power?

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Okay, I think I know who this person is any what they've done, based on their comments. They were playing dropship crew chief, who is expressly prohibited from going into actual combat, outside of the landing zone. The Executive Officer isn't allowed to order ANYBODY to do something that breaks in-game laws, they ignored this, left the Landing Zone and headed into combat. An admin then teleported them back to the Landing Zone, and warned them in ahelp. Afterwards, they PROCEEDED TO CALL OUT THE ADMIN IN IN GAME COMMS, AND IC COMPLAINED ABOUT BEING TELEPORTED. This wasn't an abuse of power, this was an admin preventing you from breaking the game's rules. And then you call them out in in game comms? What did you even expect.

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Really depends, honestly. What caused the verbal exchange in the first place? What exactly did you say to them? What did you then say in the ban appeal?

Yes, admin abuse happens sometimes in any Internet community but the vast majority of whining about bans comes from dweebs who absolutely deserved it.

• "You sound like a 1990s or early 2000s school bully character from Disney channel"
  • "That's appropriate, you sound like someone who'd get stuffed in a locker"
    • " (links an admin of the server he was banned from) did we find the admin"
• (Continued because Reddit formatting hates me): "in 5th grade they gave us an IQ test which I was one question short of perfect score, data analysis, and pattern recognition is what i'm best at but I also did get bullied a lot. You're likely and admin or active on their server and this [–]_QuietWhisper 1 point 2 hours ago If you can provide some examples to me in my dms it would help fix any problems we're not aware of" would specifiicly be my reason to ping him. I like my bs in the open and don't hide though"
  • "That's very nice for you sweetie, I bet everyone clapped, but literally who asked? For a big brain genius boy who's so good at recognizing patterns, you sure managed to fail Whisper's basic instructions by 1. failing to DM 2. failing to provide examples of admin abuse and 3. not being the person he was talking to."

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That depends. I've looked at the "appeals" before and I've seen a lot of them become particularly unhinged, lol.

"4no Raisins" have been a part of the space station games for a reasonraisin.

• "Like that time a dude got banned after linking a photo of his penis because someone said that he has a micropenis. And then tried to appeal it..."

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Admin gives a response:

First off, holy shit the fabled rmc14 ban reddit post, we made it!

I'll preface this by saying a few things including that the admin involved was not responsible for the outcome of any appeals relating to this. Complying with an admin decision and moving on would have resolved this instantly instead of arguing with a single admin trying to enforce something, and if the intent is to discuss why a decision is made or if it's valid, the appeals section exists for that reason to make changes to rules or invalidate a ruling and create a clarification, which this person instead decided would be a good place to talk about american constitution for some reason, among other things anyone can probably pick out from reading the absurd comments on this post. The admin message function is not a place to argue with a single staff member about their decision.

In other news hey I saw this one recently, this is the guy that joined the discord on an alt to appeal which is already a show of bad faith, dropped some inane irrelevant stuff about the american constitution free speech and american army for some reason, then when denied and banned for blatant trolling on the appeal, ban evaded on discord to further annoy the staff on their main! I sincerely doubt they're expressing legitimate concern. 

And no, nobody involved with their appeal handled it, this is an assumption based on the only thing the staff member did which was provide them with relevant information including some they requested. 

It is also not a reasonable expectation of a niche community that the community volunteer admin staff is omnipotent or always online at any particular time despite their best efforts, to handle a real-time only issue of a player being stuck in a wall for whatever reason (They were for some reason also complaining about non-existant selective enforcement from non-existant admins, again showing bad faith based on assumptions between a several hour old ahelp and this current one). 

When there are serious issues that need immidiate response like someone spamming swastikas in the chat we encourage players to ping admins on the discord which tends to cover all pressing issues. Generally speaking one of however many players being stuck in a wall is unfortunate but not critical and tends to be handled right away if someone is online. It just so happened that several hours later they were caught while an admin was online in their own report. Oh well.

If this person is serious about reconnecting with the community my dms are not closed on discord, not that I think they actually will in good faith with the absurd statements I'm reading on this post.

This is partly for the purpose of handling staff reports, which in this case obviously wouldve been an invalid report with a single line of text to show such.

Maybe they didn't assume that was possible, don't know, maybe this entire situation is bad faith and attention seeking, because not once have I recieve a message from either of their accounts about anything, instead resorting to griefing the appeal tickets about getting the admin their permissions revoked as if we don't have any sort of logs that prevent this behavior from admins. But again, maybe they didn't believe this was possible, who knows.

Related sources https://www.reddit.com/r/ss14/comments/1jrfnq8/comment/mlfbhcj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/ss14/comments/1jrfnq8/comment/mlejxfb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/ss14/comments/1jrfnq8/comment/mlejxfb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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OP compares getting banned to Japanese Internment:

I refused to say the pledge of allegiance in school. I always found it ironic when I was punished for exercising the freedom or rights we supposedly had.

perhaps George Carlin said it best

"Now, if you think you do have rights, I have one last assignment for ya. Next time you're at the computer get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, i want to type in, "Japanese-Americans 1942" and you'll find out all about your precious fucking rights. Alright. You know about it.

In 1942 there were 110,000 Japanese-American citizens, in good standing, law abiding people, who were thrown into internment camps simply because their parents were born in the wrong country. That's all they did wrong. They had no right to a lawyer, no right to a fair trial, no right to a jury of their peers, no right to due process of any kind. The only right they had was...right this way! Into the internment camps.

Just when these American citizens needed their rights the most...their government took them away. and rights aren't rights if someone can take em away. They're priveledges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of TEMPORARY priviledges; and if you read the news, even badly, you know the list get's shorter, and shorter, and shorter.

Yeup, sooner or later the people in this country are going to realize the government doesn't give a fuck about them. the government doesn't care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare or your safety. it simply doesn't give a fuck about you. It's interested in it's own power. That's the only thing...keeping it, and expanding wherever possible.

Personally when it comes to rights, I think one of two things is true: either we have unlimited rights, or we have no rights at all.” ― George Carlin, It's Bad for Ya

73+ comments deep as of writing this

Where our story begins: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/1jrmzyq/georgia_aquarium_uses_rfid_cups_to_track_how_many/mlg0jay/

Get a flipper zero and just replicate the signal

Edit: whatever you do, do NOT tell bojack1437 about pedialyte freezer pops. It will push him over the edge and he will block you, even though they’re a great way to beat the heat and get your electrolytes.

Edit: you guys, he unblocked me. I feel like this is the first step to building a bridge. ❤️

The Pedialyte Freezer Pops get foreshadowed here, they come up again later so be on the lookout for them.

Possible flairs:

How long are you still don't understand

Pleas think of the corps gain margin boo hoo

No... 99% of the idiots with a flipper zero have no actual idea what they're doing and are just script kitties...

When I clone your Balls ID number for your dick, and prevent your dick from working and use it for I myself.

I'm stealing from your body and not you... I'm not depriving you of something that you came for?

Because the dick still got stroked...

You're not very hard are you?

congrats you are now tagged forever as "guy who needs Pedialyte freezer pops"

Bojack why do you hate pedialyte freezer pops??

The response:

And?

This serialized tag, is only good for a single day, likely based on other systems like this I've seen only allows one refill per set amount of time, such as 15 minutes, although that part, I don't know if they're using, and would become invalid after probably 12 hours.

So very likely cloning. It is not going to get you anything, other than maybe being able to use a different cup for your allotted refills, but it won't allow you to get more refills than you're already allowed.

That sounds like something a spy for the Aquarium would say….

You can literally look up how these systems work, Universal Studios Florida for example used and probably still does use this system for a long time.

I'll help you out since you seem to not be capable of figuring things out on your own. https://orlandoinformer.com/universal/refillable-cups-popcorn-buckets-coke-freestyle

lol how is this your response about a spy at the aquarium? why are you so grumpy?

 

Dude, I run a DevOps team.I’m just playing around because this is just an internet thread and the purpose of this shit is to have fun. You don’t need to be so sad and aggressive. Please try not to be the bad kind of nerd - you give the rest of us a bad name.

You're literally the one essentially suggesting to people steal from others, not a corporation, people/individual, you either didn't understand how this system works and was being reckless with your comments, or if you did know how the system works makes it that much worse.

You are the one suggesting to people who likey knows no better to do something not only illegal but that would deprive that person/individual again NOT corporation of something they paid for, and that make you the bad kind of "nerd".

brb

Buying a Flipper Zero to unlock unlimited soda hack

 

Yes, my comment in this post about becoming a “soda robber baron” was 100% serious…. /facepalm

That comment is nowhere in this comment chain.

And is deeper behind your initial comments.

So again, you're being reckless and intentionally obtuse, or you're intentionally being a POS. Take your pick.

Did you just call me a Point of Sale system?!?!

Bojack, I’m sad that you don’t seem to want to be friends

 

Just open all comments then command + F to search for it. You’ll see it. That’s a little DevOps trick for ya ;)

I know it's there, because I have looked through a lot of the comments in this thread, But my point is not. Everyone is going to see it, and most aren't, and even if they are, they're not going to link it to you in your original comment because most people don't look at usernames like that.

Yet again, you continue to be obtuse and show how much of an idiot and reckless you are, or how you are intentionally a POS, again, take your pick.

Dude, what would cheer you up? I recently found they make Pedialyte freezer pops so when it’s hot outside you can cool off AND get your electrolytes. And like they’re made for kids, but adults can still eat them. Nobody will stop you. I got all frustrated earlier today at work and I took like 5mins to just chill with a blue one and an orange one (I think I was really low on electrolytes) and I felt a lot better afterwards.

This is a beautiful comment, absolutely worth taking a few minutes to find it

 

congrats you are now tagged forever as "guy who needs Pedialyte freezer pops"

 

Bojack why do you hate pedialyte freezer pops??

 

I'll copy your cup, and I won't even feel bad about it

You wouldn't download a cup.

 

And that makes you a POS

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I love all the down votes from people apparently advocating for stealing from someone who's paid for a drink from this.

They're not stealing from the aquarium. They're stealing from someone else, who didn't choose this method of DRMed cup.

Because every time that cloned RFID is used, it potentially and likely blocks the person who rightfully purchased the drink from using it.

It would be almost (keyword) no different than physically stealing the cup, at least as far as depriving the person who rightfully purchased it from using it for its intentionaly paid purpose.

Here's a better idea since you're advocating for paid refills.

Put the soda dispenser behind a counter, away from customers.

All in all, if it isn't behind the counter, then fuck companies for limiting drinks when the economy is going to shit.

 

bud we’re just taking the mickey out of you because you’re being super high horsey about something no one really cares about lol. gotta step away of the internet. whole thing’s a momentary blip, a brief distraction from the hard times where we tease each other. especially those who don’t realize they’re being trolled.

 

Customer "Hey i just bought a drink & it won't fill" Clerk who doesn't give a fuck "oh, here you go"

Go outside & see what the real world is like champ.

 

did you know that you can make pedialyte freezer pops? I hear its great way to cool off and stay hydrated 😉

 

Damn dude you're simping so hard for corps and for free.

I don't give a damn about the corporation.

The problem is you are affecting and stealing from a person, an individual, because you are preventing them potentially and likely from utilizing something that they purchased.

Because if for example there's two refills which I've seen someone refer to in this case, and you use those two refills, You just stole those two refills from someone.... You didn't hurt the corporation. You hurt the individual. 

That's the issue. 

If you skim an RFID serial number from a cup from someone, and use their refills, when they go to scan their RFID cup, they are not going to be the able to utilize something they paid for.... So again you were stealing from the person not the corporation.

Love for corps while not being shareholder is wild, wait I mean dumb.

Apparently you're too dumb to understand what I wrote..

Because you're not hurting the corporation... You're hurting the customer who didn't choose this... Idiot

No, folks understand what you are saying, it’s just what’s being said is weird and obtuse

 

Damn dude, this is really deep for you.

Is it that important to you that the corps keep this scam model?

Are you at least a shareholder?

Because if not this is embarrassingly lame

Pleas think of the corps gain margin boo hoo

Lol

 

Presumably the customer would just complain to customer support and get a new cup, or more likely not even notice if it's somewhere with unlimited refills like Disney and the original tag and cloned tag aren't used within 10 mins of each other.

I wouldn't do this, but it feels like even lower stakes than shoplifting.

So when someone clones your SIM card from your cell phone, preventing your phone from, And you have to deal with customer service to fix it. 

You don't see that as a problem? Same thing essentially. And that's essentially what you're saying.

Yeah but that's apples and oranges. A phone is a much more critical device and dealing with support could take hours. A soda costs a few dollars and would take a walk up to the counter to get it fixed.

Comparing 2 completely different things to make a nonsense point, dude you're a freaking genius

How is it too completely different.... That SIM card is a serial number essentially that gives you access to your soil or service.

The serial number of this RFID tag gives the purchaser access to the refill service.

So by you saying or agreeing that it is okay to clone the serial number of the drink cup which would then deny the actual purchaser of the drink cup the service of the refills.

Then it must be okay to clone a SIM card, for example, that would disrupt and prevent the purchaser of said SIM card and that said service, from using said service.

You didn't physically take anything.. but that same action prevents the purchaser of the service from using the purchased service.

By "purchaser" do you mean the giant organization that's trying to nickel and dime you for every ounce of drink (which, since it's the GA aquarium they literally make millions of gallons of it just down the road)? Because that is in no way similar to the owner of a smart phone.

1) there's a difference in monetary value. It would take hundreds of free refills to equal the cost of a phone. Stealing a free drink is not the same as stealing someone's SIM info from their phone.

But 2) there's just no moral equivalency. A phone is something a person needs in order to function in modern society. The GA aquarium does not NEED to keep track of your refills. If you brick someone's phone, you've basically fucked them for a couple weeks until they can get a new one at significant expense. How long does it take to get a new goddamn drink cup?

 

How long are you still don't understand that this in no way steals from the company....

You're stealing for my person... The company still gets their money... In fact, the company possibly gets even more because the person might be forced because of the lack of help from customer service to buy another cup....

You're really not that smart are you

How long are you still don't understand

You're really not that smart are you

I assume the irony here is lost 😂

 

Take a deep breath and disconnect for a little.

If you can manage it

 

Stealing for YOUR person? Why you having people steal for you asshole?!?!? You don’t care about people if you’re literally advocating for theft asshole.

 

You are the kind of person that would tell the teacher they haven't assigned homework yet right before the bell rings, ain'tcha?

 

And... they can talk to the aquarium concessions and get another cup. Chances are they reuse tags over time anyways and it is a daily thing. No real reason to store that info forever.

 

Don't skim the 2 refills cup, skim the expensive unlimited refill cup lol

And if these systems are like any of the others, there is a time limit between refills... So again, you're still potentially screwing a person.

Yeah I agree it's bad to steal another customers cup refills if it's limited. All that aside, I'd wager one of the wizards that do flipper zero could figure out how to bypass that and activate the machine without depleting legitimate cups

No... 99% of the idiots with a flipper zero have no actual idea what they're doing and are just script kitties...

And other than magically generating a random RFID that happens to be activated, which again would require someone essentially paying for that serial number to be activated. There's really no real way around it....

script kiddie.

like kids who eat pedialyte freezer pops.

 

 

You are right, people should be super serious about their flipper use! Not like you can talk to a cashier and say you didnt get your refill. And it aint kitty.

 

Nah it’s from the corporation

So if when I clone your SIM card ID number for your cell phone, and prevent your phone from working and use it for I myself. 

I'm stealing from the corporation and not you... I'm not depriving you of something you paid for? 

Because the corporation still got paid.....

You're not very bright are you.

When I clone your Balls ID number for your dick, and prevent your dick from working and use it for I myself.

I'm stealing from your body and not you... I'm not depriving you of something that you came for?

Because the dick still got stroked...

You're not very hard are you?

 

I don’t own a cellphone and thereby don’t own a SIM card

 

im jorkin it 🤤 (???)

Context:
Per Wikipedia, Calibre is "a cross-platform free and open-source suite of e-book software. Calibre supports organizing existing e-books into virtual libraries, displaying, editing, creating and converting e-books, as well as syncing e-books with a variety of e-readers." As it's offline software, it doesn't discriminate between books that have been come by legally and illegally, which means that a fair amount of people are using Calibre mostly for managing their pirated books. However, the r/Calibre subreddit explicitly bans discussions or threads about piracy. With many rule-breakers abound, the subreddit's sole moderator eventually creates this post:

Update to moderation regarding to piracy (rule 4)

Despite the community rules being pretty clear on the topic, it seems a reminder is needed that this sub has a strict "no piracy" rule. Every day there are numerous posts and even more comments that are either seeking info on how to pirate books, wanting help in making use of books they've pirated, or are people flat out encouraging others to pirate and listing off websites where they can do it. Up until now those posts have simply been deleted as they've been seen, but going forward any users found ignoring rule 4 will be banned from the Calibre sub.

Calibre is a platform that helps everyone organize their eBooks and if you want a book bad enough to read it, you should want the author who wrote it to receive compensation for the work they put into it. If you don't, then this community isn't the place for you to brazenly discuss that moral failure.

Thank you to those who wish to continue keeping this sub in good standing with Reddit and on the right side of copyright laws and basic human decency. If that's not you, feel free to head on out. Thanks.

This message, however, seems to have grinded some gears as they feel that they are being morally reprimanded unduly! Here are the hotspots of discussion, as picked and annotated by me:

PS: I have edited quotes within comments to be italicised for easier reading. Comments made by the moderator are bolded.

Keeping the sub in good standing with Reddit's anti-piracy policies is understandable, yet handing out personal judgments to pirates & alluding they lack "basic human decency" isn't a good look on you as a moderator either. Is your job to moderate or pass moral judgment? Just say you're adhering to Reddit's policies, nothing more is needed on your end.

Seems like you might not be aware that moderators are humans. Is this a new idea for you? I can moderate the community and also be a human being with individual thoughts. Pardon me for being a tad bit tired of having to spend 95% of the time moderating this community solely on piracy related posts and comments.

How condescending of you.

For asking people not to blatantly steal? Seems like we found someone who this post was meant for.

No, for this:

Seems like you might not be aware that moderators are humans. Is this a new idea for you?

I can also say to you that I do not pirate my books.

So again, I'm confused - why is it bad to remind someone that being a moderator doesn't mean I'm some mindless emotionless bot with no opinions? If that is what you're expecting from moderators, you're in for a shock. Especially mods who offer up their time for free and are not employees of some large company that are acting in a customer service role. Being a mod isn't glorious, it isn't a feather in my cap that I love telling people about or makes me feel special. I do it in the communities I care about to make sure they don't become chaotic cesspools. My bad for having a response to people ignoring rules, whatever their feelings about them.

I would not describe your comment as reminding at all, but rather as accusatory. You have by all means been very confrontational, and I can only say that I am rather upset and bewildered by your inordinately aggressive responses. It seems that you may not be aware that the users whom you reply to are humans. Is this a new idea to you?

You have now accused both me and the original commenter, ibreti, of breaking the rules of this subreddit^1,2. I certainly have never done so, and it seems to me, by perusal of his profile, that ibreti has not done so either. After initially making sweeping moral judgements, you have resorted to attacking disparagers ad hominem, even when they have not been in violation of any rules. Frankly, I think that this all is unbecoming for so professional a moderator as you!

As you have pointed out, your moderator labours are onerous and time-taking, so surely your precious time can be spent in a better way than quibbling with the morally failing.

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¹ ‘Seems like we found someone who this post was meant for.’
² ‘My bad for having a response to people ignoring rules, whatever their feelings about them.’

An edit reveals that the above comment was later removed and the user banned for life.
Continuing on…

I get the point with regards to fiction books, where authors actually get paid royalties for purchases, abd I agree with it.

However, for academic researchers, piracy genuinely is the only way researchers have access to certain books that only a few printed copies were made, and the authors receive no royalties from publishers like Brill and DeGruyter. Oftentimes, these books are only available at a small number of university libraries that academics, especially those in the Global South, simply have no access to. This has resulted in the common thing where academics will often encourage people to pirate their own books or articles they wrote or fully giving them a pdf of it themselves when asked because there simply is no other way for most people to read it. In these cases, the only entity being hurt is large publishers like Brill, especially as the author isn't being paid for any purchases that are made.

I fully get the need to not discuss those things because of legal reasons and being in good standing with reddit, but putting a moral judgement on people in the above case strongly comes off as elitist, especially towards those who work in the academic field or are graduate students in Global South countries.

That's not a bad point, but I'd counter by saying that of the literal thousands of posts I've had to remove from this sub for piracy reasons, not one has been the situation you've described. So while there are almost certainly exceptions to every rule, that doesn't mean the rule is bad when it covers 99.9% of the situations it was designed for.

It's the same as saying that use of racial slurs is vile, which it is, but then trying to twist that and say that it's not because sometimes it's for historical context or in a medium like a book or movie where that was the language used at the time or in that place. Sure, that's accurate, but does that mean using the slurs isn't vile? No. Obviously it doesn't.

I'm not arguing against the rule. It was the moral catch-all that anyone who is involved in piracy is a moral failure, when there are many thousands of researchers who are required to do so. That may not be the common situation on this sub, but it still exists.

Comparing this to racial slurs is also pretty wild. Especially as in the above case, the authors of said books are not being paid by purchases anyway and often encourage alternative distribution themselves. Racial slurs hurt people whether it was historically contingent or not. That comparison is bonkers.

The comparison is entirely apt so perhaps you just don't understand it. It's the exact same principle, just different topics.

That was a horrible comparison.

Maybe you shouldn't be a mod then? It's like if you can't handle the fire get out of the kitchen. Being human and a mod are two completely different things that don't correlate.

hahahaha You're insane. Mods can't be human? You are absolutely out of touch. If moderation didn't benefit from a human touch, a unique personality and perspective between people, then every community on every platform would have a single programmed bot with zero nuance and a flat tone for all interactions - which is what practically none have. Because that's awful.

I’m scrolling through this thread and this is at least the third commenter I’ve seen you gratuitously insult.

You're insane, he says, as he laughs like a madman.

isn't a good look on you as a moderator either.

I think it's a great look. iF BuYiNg IsN't OwNiNg... yada yada yada bullshit. Just say you are cheap and a parasite. The answer should be to bypass DRM not outright skip the payment step. About time someone realizes piracy is only possible because other people aren't leeches.

This reminds me of the famous film, Parasite

Are you okay

Are you? A mod asked people to follow sub rules - why is that a problem for you?

Where did I say that it was a problem? Subreddits have rules, not surprising. But you seem very heated and are arguing with random commenters. So i am asking if you are okay

Reddit cares.

Watch out guys the moral police is here

Nee-naw, wee-woo 🚨🚨

Whats the old saying? You'll own nothing and be happy.

Don't come looking for help from pirates looking for a long lost copy of your favorite book once amazon has deemed it unworthy of listing on their store anymore.

Piracy is not a pricing problem. Its a consumer rights problem. Look at the movie and tv show industry if you want a clue as to whats on the horizon for ebooks.

I'm not asking for your help and won't later either. No need to grandstand about why you disagree with the rule, all that's needed is to either follow it or post in a community that doesn't have it. Easy, everyone wins.

Ah yes, abstinence only education. Amazing coming from a resource managing something who's SOLE purpose in its creation was about spreading information and knowledge. The irony here is Pulitzer prize incredible. If you're looking for someone doing some grandstanding, maybe start with your own moral superiority regarding piracy in paragraph 2.

Maybe, instead of banning something outright, make a post about it an ask for input from the community, try to understand the problem instead of burying it

The vast majority of the community is fine with the rule, as evidenced by the fact that every time someone broke it I had multiple reports to flag it so it could be removed. This post is just surfacing all the people who want to whine about it.

Maybe the vast majority does agree, but the argument is so empirical lol.

Ehhhhhh....... looser argument. But I see where you're going with this.

I had to include that because I found it funny.

Good thing I saw this post and can now preemptively filter another usless sub out of my feed.

If the only thing you did here was pirate, your presence won't be missed. Nice attempt to grandstand with your flounce though.

scoffs nice flounce.

This entire thread is just reaffirming the stereotype about Reddit mods. Not a good look, man.

Yup, asking people to follow clearly defined rules is bad, and then responding when I'm berated by people who don't like the rule makes me a bad person. Sorry I didn't grovel at the feet of screaming redditors and backtrack the rule to make them happy.

Fucking redditors, am I right.

Well, fair, piracy is against Reddit's policies. Completely unrelated, 90% of the books on my bookshelves and that I bought on my Kindle are books I had previously read before buying them, and liked them so much I wanted to support the authors. How? Did I pirate it? Did I borrow them from friends? I guess both of those moral failures, as you're reading a book without compensating the author, so I promise I also won't talk about my girlfriend reading books on my Kindle. Maybe an update to the rules to make that clear is in order, we can't let these immoral people continue to be so brazen.

Insert eye roll here. Using a library or borrowing from a friend isn't piracy, just like a friend loaning you their car doesn't mean you stole it. But going out and just taking a car off the street that isn't yours and wasn't loaned to you by whoever does own it is stealing. It's not a tricky concept, but those who want to pirate are going to jump through hoops to make those who don't look stupid. The mental gymnastics are wild.

It isn't piracy, you're correct! But by your own standards, you should also consider those moral failings, as you said "if you want a book bad enough to read it, you should want the author who wrote it to receive compensation for the work they put into it. If you don't, then this community isn't the place for you to brazenly discuss that moral failure" and borrowing a book from a friend means you don't want the author to receive compensation for their hard work, or else you would have bought it instead of borrowing it. There is no mental gymnastics, I'm just going off of what you said.

lol That's not even remotely the same thing, but nice try.

What isn't the same thing lmao, I'm following what YOU established in your own post, you're disagreeing with yourself

If you think it's the same, you're an idiot. If I like chocolate bars and a friend shares theirs with me, that's fine. If I go into a store and steal one, that's not fine. Did the manufacturer make money off me getting a portion of my friend's? No. Do I have the same equal amount as my friend originally bought, doubling up without extra compensation? No. What was paid for is what was consumed. The same way if a friend loans you their book, you have the only copy and then you return it - that's fine. If they make 100 copies and pass them out to everyone to keep - that's not fine.

Deep down I hope you know this and you're just being a jerk of a troll because you think it's funny, but at the moment I just don't care anymore. Enough other people just like you have blown up a post that simply asked people to abide by the community rules with all the reasons you don't think you should have to or why the rule isn't right or fair or whatever else. Such a waste of time.

I lost IQ points and brain cells from following that argument.

People are having a lot of knee-jerk reactions to the moral part of this post.

I cannot believe that so many people instantly think authors don't deserve to get paid for their work.

Agreed. If I can't afford a Mercedes, I don't go out and steal one. If I can't afford to buy 100 books that I want to read, I don't just go steal them. It's simple. Everyone else can do what they're gonna do, but it shouldn't be a big deal for a community to say that discussing outright theft isn't allowed.

Discussions of theft aren't allowed? How oddly restrictive!

These comments are really disappointing. Everyone ignoring the point of the post or using mod’s words as an excuse. But you really should add moderators to help u/Xx_Redacted_for_SRD_xX

Once the dust settles, I'd love to. But I've been doing this for years and not once has anyone volunteered, and I've had to spend so much time moderating posts that violate rules that I don't get to truly enjoy participating in the community anymore, so I don't see the active users who are helpful and would be worth inviting.

Woe is moderator.

They seem to be spending most of their time here getting into ad hominem-flecked arguments against random commenters, so I’m not sure the quantity of moderators is the limiting factor here.

Again, everyone is ignoring the point of the post and focusing on mod’s exasperation.

I’d say mod would be way more chill about this if they had someone helping, as they have very clearly stated in multiple comments that being the only one enforcing the rule and moderating has taken a toll on them.

Edit: or if fewer people broke the (simple) rule.

Additional context for these next comments:
Some plugins for Calibre can strip purchased ebooks of their DRM (Digital Rights Management). If you are a gamer, you are probably familiar with this term; essentially, it's copyright protection. For example, an ebook purchased on Amazon can only be read on Amazon devices or applications, and so on for other ebook vendors, owing to DRM. Obviously this is an issue for most Calibre enthusiasts who want to consolidate their ebook library on Calibre, which is why so-called "de-DRMing" is widespread. But is it piracy? r/Calibre discusses

# Remember :

# removing DRM is LEGAL

I didn't say it wasn't and the rule doesn't either.

Yup,

But but you didn't said it was either.

Why would I? I also didn't post in here that the earth is round - that doesn't mean I'm saying it's not. This might be the most useless comment on here so far today.

Our mod has clearly had enough.

Then what’s the point of using Calibre?

The point of Calibre is to allow you to neatly organise all the e-books you have and to export them safely on your device. Of course only if you paid for them, otherwise you're a criminal.

In the eyes of the law you are also a criminal if you remove DRM.

Yes! That is very true. I would never dare do such a thing.

He could go to prison!

You do realize removing drm is essentially the same thing, yeah? Skewed but whatever.

Removing DRM from a book you purchased is different than piracy.

It really isn't because those are the books on all these sites no ones allowed to post but okay lmao.

Seriously. There are subs for piracy and I'm ok with the no piracy rule here, I know my ways. But this is kind of funny, to pretend that deDRM isn't the same thing as piracy. If people don't understand by know that they are buying a license, not a book, I don't know what to say.

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No those are people redistributing books. They aren't people's personal library that no one else gets. Big difference

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While removing the DRM from novels is socially accepted (and to be clear, I remove DRM from all of my own purchased novels) doing so is illegal and an act of piracy. The DMCA expressly forbids circumvention of DRMs applied by copyright holders. When you remove a DRM, even if it's just for personal use, you are a pirate just the same as people who download books.

I understand what you’re getting at but a pirate is stealing something that isn’t yours and that you didn’t pay for. When you pay and remove DRM as a backup I don’t think that’s really piracy. It may make you a lawbreaker in some countries but you’re not stealing anything.

Also, DMCA is only applicable in the US.

I've heard that you'll be tariffed if you violate the DMCA outside of America.

That's why the rule is very specific about what is and isn't allowed. It shouldn't be a surprise. Removing DRM from owned content is one thing and outright stealing it is another.

Not to be pedantic, but you don’t own any content that you can remove a DRM from. You purchase a license to view that content as long as the license holder allows you to. Removing DRM from that content to circumvent the agreement you made when you purchased the license is just as illegal as outright stealing. This is why moral grandstanding is pointless. If you’re violating the agreement you made with your “purchase,” you’re doing something wrong. Just because one person’s moral compass allows something yours won’t allow doesn’t mean you’re morally superior.

That’s why you should have just stuck to reiterating the rules and not pontificated on moral authority.

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Not to argue but in the Kindle Store Terms of Use, it explcitly says:

Limitations. Unless specifically indicated otherwise, you may not sell, rent, lease, distribute, broadcast, sublicense, or otherwise assign any rights to the Kindle Content or any portion of it to any third party, and you may not remove or modify any proprietary notices or labels on the Kindle Content. In addition, you may not attempt to bypass, modify, defeat, or otherwise circumvent any digital rights management system or other content protection or features used as part of the Service.

So how is encouraging piracy bad but encouraging people to break terms of use permitted? It's two sides of the same coin.

When you purchase a book, the author gets paid. When you pirate a book, you’re stealing content and the author doesn’t get paid. Piracy is against the law, removing DRM is not.

So what if, theoretically, someone pirated a book but then paid the author directly through Patreon or other means. In that case, that person is even more morally superior than someone who just pays for it through Amazon. Which, obviously, is ridiculous.

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You’re still violating the terms of the agreement. You committed to this every time you purchase your books.

I love how morality is only measured in $ here. Morally, you shouldn’t deny the author their due $, but morally, it’s ok to break agreements as you see fit. I find it amusing how people justify this stuff.

You're welcome to that interpretation. It doesn't impact the community rules as they have existed or this post's reminder of them. Have a nice day.

Perhaps I was wrong about you, Sir Moderator, so courteous.

You do realize removing drm is essentially the same thing, yeah?

What an extremely bad take. One option supports the author and the other doesn't. If you think they are both equally bad you seriously lack critical thinking skills.

Morals dont just get rid of legality. And that right there is the skewed thinking you guys have.

And that's pretty much it. The post was locked at some point, which this postscript being added to the post body:

Well it's been a lovely day of people trying to argue that piracy is fine, or that removing DRM of books you own is just as much pirating as outright stealing a book you haven't paid for, but I've wasted more time than was worthwhile trying to reply to people. At the end of it all, rule 4 stands and this post was made to serve as a reminder of it and a warning of repercussions for ignoring it. That's it. To those who had civil discourse or expressed understanding of this, thank you.

Have a nice day and happy drama-diving

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1jrf8re/charania_the_nba_has_fined_memphis_ja_morant/

Context: Temetrious "Ja" Morant is the star player on the Memphis Grizzlies. In spite of his stable middle class upbringing, Ja enjoys cosplaying as a gangster, and after several incidents of him brandishing firearms in public (the most serious involving Ja and his entourage supposedly pointing firearms at the staff of another stadium), the NBA suspended him for 25 games. Two games ago, Ja mimed firing an assault rifle at the Warriors bench after the Grizzlies lost to the Warriors, and last game he mimed firing a gun, again.

HIGHLIGHTS

This dude is such a mental midget. Feel bad for grizz fans. Can’t believe some of our fanbase wants this clown. EDIT. Don’t feel bad bc of all the clown takes. Goodness

I mean he’s still a decent ball player who had a game winner last night.. The hell is this kind of overreaction?

Because he has character issues that makes him unreliable. He's been suspended on more than one occasions for gun related incidents and henstill can't help himself.

His character issues don’t make him unreliable. His body does.

His character issues absolutely make him unreliable. He had to miss 25 games last year for this stuff, that’s a lot.

He missed 25 games for finger guns?

I agree about the feeling bad for them part. And if you try to ask them their true opinion, or tell them you’d be disappointed if your star player did this dumb little stuff, they just tell you you’re dumb, a hater, you wouldn’t get it, he’s good for Memphis, etc.

I think he's dumb for continuing to do the finger guns, and if it were someone close to me I'd tell them that it's not a good look given your history and it's doing you no favors with public perception. However, I think that's very different than the NBA selectively punishing you based on something you've already served your punishment for. That is where I think this is ridiculo

Bullshit. He literally was told not to do it bc he decided to be an immature idiot and post stuff online. Now he just said “fuck you” to the league. It’s just not a good look for a supposed adult. He’s a loser human being

Think whatever you want about him and I agree he's clearly an immature guy. Public perception is what it is and thats one thing. That's very different than enacting selective punishments for a rule that doesn't even exist based on vibes. Either the gesture is acceptable for everyone or it's acceptable for no one, the NBA needs to choose.

Not how it works in the real world when you’ve done what he has done. The NBA has chosen. He can’t do it.

The actual guns on IG live was one thing but this is complete bullshit. Such a non story.

It’s only because he did it again last night after the NBA warned him to not do it regarding game before against the Warriors

The warning was fucking stupid too.

Nah. You get flagged for that in the NFL and a fat fine the week after. Doing little pew pew guns is one thing but acting like you’re aiming a whole ass machine gun or something is dumb. Just do a normal celebration.

WE'VE GOT THE FINGER GUN POLICE IN HERE HAHAHAHA

This is the problem. Memphis needs to get real. Ja barely plays basketball, then when he does, he’s doing this. Yall gotta decide for yourselves what’s important.

He literally got a warning before the game, he’s lucky it isn’t more.

This whole thing of absolutely ridiculous I've seen finger guns countless times watching basketball So if someone gets fined for it, I guess that means no one can do them now And the fact that Ja was stupid enough to be on camera waving around a gun doesn't mean that the entire nba should be banned from finger guns, that's nonsense logic. But it's going to have to be that way

have any of those players had a history of brandishing guns in public?

My point is literally that its either an illegal gesture or it's not. You can't have a rule that a gesture is only illegal if you've done x in the past that would be nonsense.

nope. incorrect. context is everything.

There's no way they're going to be able to do selective enforcement of gestures, period. Thats why there are things like the players association. You're just plain wrong.

I guess the league is making a distinction between the finger pistols (common) and the two-handed shotgun/rifle gesture? Or does it matter whether or not it's "pointed" at someone? Seems like whatever rule they settle on should be specific to the gesture rather than specific to the player.

It’s not that complicated. He did something. The league told him not to. He did it again immediately after. That’s behavior you’d expect from a 3 year old, not a grown man.

"He did something. The league told him not to." My point is that it only makes sense to tell him not to if they're making it a league-wide rule.?

do any of those players have a history of brandishing guns in public

The NBA issued a warning yesterday to both Hield and Morant. It said nothing about Morant having brandished guns, which makes sense because Hield hasn’t brandished guns. Today’s announcement of the fine also doesn’t mention Morant’s past gun suspension.

nope. incorrect. context is everything.

Habitual line stepper. I like it

I don’t. It’s incredibly annoying dealing with people like that.

You mean middle schoolers?

Lol what middle schoolers are you hanging out with and why? Edit: and what are they doing to you/are you safe?

This is why people hate redditors lmao

3x the amount Draymond got fined for putting Rudy Gobert in a chokehold, and Dray is a habitual over the line stepper. Edit: I forgot Draymond was suspended for them 5 games, that’s my bad.

Green actually got suspended, though

shoulda been banned from playing ever again, assaulting someone isnt even in the same field as finger guns lmao. idgaf who ja is off the court cause if that shit mattered half the pro athletes would be in jail.

You sound stupid af

This is ironically exactly what the team and the city needed to improve the mood after the quagmire the last month lol

269 murders in the city of Memphis last year I'm sure the families of those who were gunned down are thrilled to see it being celebrated by pro athletes on TV. Must really improve their moods.

I bet you feel the exact same way about ads for violent video games, nerf guns, and every action movie ever. Get a fucking grip.

How ignorant are you lol

I'll take a little ignorance over the sanctimoneous horseshit people spew about Ja and guns. Not one person in these comments gives a dusty fuck one way or the other about a finger gun celebration outside of Reddit.

It aint that deep lol Yall acting like this is some 1st amendment freedom fighter bs lol

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However, no good deed goes unpunished.

One burrito bandit on the /r/Chipotle subreddit is taking (or claiming to take) all the BOGO deals. The other users are standing up to this bowl bully in classic internet fashion by calling them names. Aspiring BOGO dealers are instituting security measures to make sure that this aspiring salad stealer isn't getting their hands on yet another code.

Giving away BOGO to anyone not named [Burrito Bandit]. Comment why you want and I'll pm someone within an hour.

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Bro shut up man you gone put 10 bowls in the fridge? 😹

I ate two today. Only have 8. My fridge ain’t that small 💀

Val Kilmer passed away on April 1. Today, someone posted: "Today I learned that in 1989 Val Kilmer punched and threw actress Caitlin O'Heaney to the floor during an audition for the lead female role in The Doors. There was not any punching in the scene. Oliver Stone laughed about it and the company wrote her a check for $24,500 not to discuss the allegations publicly."

One person writes "No matter what Reddit always manages to bring up the worst thing somebody ever did right when they die." This gets a lot of responses, ranging from people arguing that we should criticize the dead, to "UM AKSHUALLY THAT THING YOU LIKE IS BAD", plus people comparing Kilmer to Hitler and OJ Simpson.

Maybe if people just didn't do horrible things people wouldn't have anything to bring up? (To which someone responds saying that we don't know the whole context for this incident)

Well personally I think it’s weird to try and publicly shame someone who just passed based on a handful of the worst things they reportedly did over the course of their entire life, especially when the worlds overall opinion of them is very positive.

Someone points out that Jim Carrey also has a "difficult" reputation yet is beloved-same person also argues that there's missing context behind the punch

Ahh yes, the classy move of posting every single bad story about a person the day after they die.

He had quite a poor reputation in the industry for a while. But he managed to right himself.

"Shhhh, they don't care about personal growth. Just salacious stories about a dead man. They're all perfect. Never did anything wrong. Ever." (This thread goes on for a while)

Someone notices that OOP already knew this fact, brought it up in a discussion yesterday, and posted it here for karma. This prompts someone else to compare this post to the people who constantly bring up that John Lennon was a wife beater. This leads to discussion on John Wayne and Matthew Broderick.

But wait, there's more, have a gender war! Someone says that "Men are allowed to be difficult, women are not". But how true IS this really?

Charlie Sheen is recognized as a genius? And Mariah Carey is just a plain old bitch, and not a diva?

Plenty of male actors are labelled difficult, so that is some nonsense. Kilmer, Norton, Hoffman , Murray just of the top of my head

Someone offers Topher Grace as a counterpoint, prompting someone to respond, "Ah yes it's the "not all men" crowd chiming in"

Another argues that the double standard isn't real because Ellen Degeneres is a bad person

"Yup, far from the only woman who got abused by a more powerful man and as a result had her career destroyed." To which someone asks, "Who was the other one?"

Oh I get it. Edward Norton wouldn’t have sex with Harvey Weinstein. It all makes sense now. (To which someone points out that Norton DID get on Weinstein's nerves (albeit not for sexual reasons) and probably was on his enemies list)

Hell, one person wonders, is this woman even telling the truth about what happened? "She "alleges." And this bis a buzz feed/indie wire article. Super classy and trustworthy magazine for sure. Good work OP.".

Whole thing set to controversial, there's a lot of juicy ones in there

Link to OP's post https://www.reddit.com/r/debtfree/s/AyETdnPiG3

Highlights:

[No.

You should....get rid of that asinine car.

And drive a rust buck piece of junk and eat beans for 5 years and pay every single penny back.

How in the world?!

I literally cannot even.

I haf 3k in debt one time in my life and I threw up.](https://www.reddit.com/r/debtfree/s/cPJAFMbF3Z)

You can’t be serious right? You’ve got 10k just sitting in a bank account earning .01% interest while you’re paying 25%+ on 17k credit cards?

You are a perfect example of someone who is financially illiterate and shouldn’t be allowed to have credit cards

$66k loan on a 2019 challenger is insane lmao

23? Bro, what are you doing with a 66K car loan? You nuts?! What's your interest rate? How much is the car worth?

Context: Two major events happened on April 2, 2025.

Firstly, the Nintendo Direct Showcasing the highly-anticipated Switch 2 was revealed. Among the tech specs, games, and software hardware features, it was also revealed that the console would cost $449.99 USD ($499.99 if bundled with Mario Cart). Given how the previous Switch gained popularity in part to being the cheaper alternative to the PS4/XBone, this was a big and unpleasant surprise for many gamers. The fact that it was revealed during a time of economic hardship and inflation did not help matters.

Secondly, Trump revealed his plans for his much-discussed tariffs. In short, this will raise the prices of goods being imported from foreign countries. The idea is to encourage manufacturing of goods to the USA, saving corporations costs and the increased revenue trickling down to the working class. However, this has raised concerns due to many economists predicting that the increase in prices will be levied onto the consumer. In a period where wages have stagnated while the price of groceries and other necessities have already skyrocketed, this would be a very unwelcome outcome.

Given that the Switch 2 (and other gaming consoles) are manufactured outside the US, this can have financial ramifications in the gaming industry. Video games and politics. Two entities that are absolutely not intertwined (I type this while playing Bioshock). Gamers of reddit are forced to acknowledge real-world events and have much to discuss.

Your math isn't fucking mathing.

Your socio-economic class is showing

I'm disappointed that people seem to expect Nintendo to just... I don't know, ignore the state of the world economy or something?

Are you familiar with the concept of superpower?

I don't mine price hikes on luxury items like gaming consoles, Ferraris, iphones and designer brand clothes.

What does this have to do with gaming?

Found the guy that got an F in economics.

crayon eater alert

This has not only fixed neighborhoods in bad areas in Chicago but also New York City Which is where a lot of of them would go. I’m sure the black community in Chicago would be happy to have their parks back.

Yall complain about literally nothing which is why alot of people do not support you

Nintendo had an event recently where they showed off their new Switch console. Other games were also shown in this (silksong fans finally can rest), but most notoriously, the new Mario Kart game will ship at 80 bucks/ 75 quid. And the physical version will cost more.

The reason for this, you can probably guess. There is the argument that game prices have remained mostly stagnant in the past few years, and the cost in wages and tech keep going up (for some things anyway). Development cycles take longer, and the demands of games and gamers keep increasing. However, most see it as greed. Donald Tariff probably hasn't helped. Either way, GTA and Nintendo are the first major companies to push game price increases like this, and will likely lead to the normalisation of these prices. It doesn't help that Nintendo notoriously has few discounts.

Gamers are displeased. Has Nintendo, finally, targeted gamers? Is it greed or the natural mechanism of increasing costs? Will redditors actually boycott or just buy it anyway? In a 20 bucks increase a big deal? A gamers being privileged, or is the anger righteous? Will piracy be vindicated?

---------- Please people just be smart for ONCE and don't let Nintendo ruin the entire industry by buying a damn digital game for 80 DOLLARS ----------

Please don't let Nintendo ruin the industry by, checks notes Marginally raising prices instead of piecemealing content as microtransactions for 10x the price which gamers also bitch about despite causing with stupid reactions like this

Once again we have to explain inflation to a new generation of kids

But is $10, $20, or even $30 more for a game really a huge deal? It's 2025 man. A lot of people spend $15 on lunch and not even flinch

$100 for thousands of hours of entertainment is possibly the best value thing I'll purchase all decade.

Fuck off for putting that responsibility and blame on the consumer. Inflation sucks but it didn’t touch the gaming industry for over twenty years. These game development costs shoot way up. You don’t like it, don’t buy it, but it’s pathetic to say shit like “you’ll deserve that pain.”

You could convince everyone active on Reddit not to and it wouldn’t make a significant difference.

I feel like following the industry closely lets you try to justify these prices more. For the average joe they'll see that games are 20 dollars more now for what seems like no reason and they will be more frugal with their gaming. For me I completely understand how big developers have gotten, how long development cycles have gotten, and how devalued the dollar has become since the last price change from 50 to 60 almost 20 years ago. I don't like it, but it makes sense.

I wish Reddit understood how insignificant and irrelevant they really are. Not just from a numbers standpoint but also from a real world ideology standpoint. Reddit is an echo chamber for minority irrelevant thought.

People on here thinking those in this sub are the majority are wishful thinking.

We crossed that rubicon a loooooonnnnnnggggg time ago. If you want to game in the modern age, you are paying for it. Just wait for gta6 to be a hundo.

I mean if you know its a bad deal and you still buy it then it's entirely on you. Games are not a need. You can wait

"ITS ALL THE CONSUMER" This isn't food, or water or air. It's a video game. You'll be FINE. Either it's worth 80 or don't buy it.

---------- $80 for digital and $90 for physical is absolutely insane. ----------

fucking coonsumers are gonna pay for it anyway, what's the alternative? not buy over priced kids toys ffs.

I refuse to ever buy anything from this company ever again until they walk this back. I don't care how good a game is, this is fucking ridiculous.

Inflation is crazy. This would probably be 60 dollars ish in 90’s/2000’s money

One more reason to abolish inflation

And yet yall will buy it anyway and prices will stay high

It is only through outrage that change can happen. Honestly, I’d rather we use more outrage towards real societal issues than we use towards entertainment, but at least entertainment makes us feel listened to and sometimes makes things better. We do what we can.

As a huge Nintendo fan, there’s no way in hell I’m spending $80 on any game. I’ve saved up over $600 for this console, but I’m just gonna use it on Steam games and the new Tomadachi instead.

The price is absolutely ridiculous ----------

Look, I am not going to defend corporations, but its really not. Games require more and more employees and take more and more time than ever before. SNES games were regularly 70-80 dollars 30 years ago. Video games is probably one of the few markets where the consumer has been treated pretty well over the years

Yes, literally every company does that. Nintendo has consumer demand and the value of its products increase because of it. Every company would do what Nintendo does if they could. It’s a luxury product and Nintendo is a business, not a charity

In terms of game pricing, you have to consider that the price of developing games is getting more expensive, and it's unrealistic to expect those costs to not be passed down to us, the consumer. Obviously, I don't like cost increases, and I don't want to be paying more for games. But as development costs rise, so too do the prices we the consumers have to pay.

Gamers who complain about this are some of most fickle people out there as they won't vote with their wallet and still get the console regardless. The exact same thing happened back in 2017 with original Switch launch with expensive accessories and Breath of the Wild, same arguments all over again in 2025 and I bet people will still get it and all accessories/ games they want again.

It’s to be expected unfortunately. Developing games in the current day is insanely expensive and unfortunately they need to recoup the cost somehow to make a profit. We’ve seen so many game studios that make solid games go bankrupt or get bought and closed. Nintendo has been really good to its developers likely because they can consistently get a profit from their big IPs.

---------- Switch 2 Game Prices ----------

Can we please just stop bitching about games costing $80? You do realize that literally every single thing you have ever bought in the last 20 years has DOUBLED or MORE in price. Yet videogames have cost $60-$70 since the late 90's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yet you want to whine because they're ONLY increasing by $10-$20????????????? Shut the hell up. Please just shut the hell up.

Nintendo 64 games were 55-65 dollars at the time. This really isn’t shocking or unwarranted. That shit costs money to make.

90 dollars was what some N64 games costed. No excuse, just saying.

holy shit y'all will excuse anything these companies do. there is 0 justification for any video game to cost 80 united states dollars.

If you look at inflation trends video games have somehow been immune for an incredibly long time. I believe the 60 dollar price point got rooted in like 2006 or so. A jump is not entirely unexpected, but still sucks. Add into that tariffs and all that fun stuff, I think this part of my life is about to get more expensive either way.

I guess we should blame society for not raising the minimum wage.

Full Thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/woman_walks_her_dog_around_the_neighborhood_but/

Lots of comments about Who Cares they pick it up and lots of make your property less accessible if you don't want dogs.

Drama about if you can re-direct a dog or not on a walk.

>Oh, so it IS possible for you to redirect the dog? Gee, if it’s possible, why do you, I don’t know, do that? A person’s yard is not your dog’s poo/pee spot, and it’s insane and entitled to automatically assume that it would be. Personally, I would be so embarrassed to just let my dog poop on some stranger’s lawn, but dog owners apparently have no shame

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkw7z7x/

Commenter says the responsible thing to do is to not let your pet use the neighbors yard.

>Ok, but then as the owner you simply say “no” and move the dog to an appropriate area. I say this as a dog owner who would never let my dog use any of my neighbors yards as their personal potty spot of choice, much less one neighbor’s yard over and over again. It’s just so disrespectful and completely unnecessary. Curb your dogs people. This is literally why people hate on us so much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkvma0z/

Commenter says the neighbor isn't doing anything bad by peeing on the neighbors property and feels bad for the owner that they aren't liked.

> She said she cleans up, but it seems like she just doesn’t like her. The poor lady and her dog don’t even know they don't like them, even though they are not doing anything bad.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkv0ndx/

Another comment for the pet owner is doing nothing wrong.

>You honestly believe this person is doing something wrong? Yeah, you are a dick (like you stated).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkvqs5q/

Commenter calls dog owners entitled, response questions how to stop a dog from peeing.

>Some super entitled dog owners in this thread (as per usual). A dog repeatedly peeing in your grass causes dead spots! I would put a “no pooping” sign in your yard.

>>How do you stop a dog from using the bathroom?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkvinfj/

Build a fence

>Even though she does pick up the poop I don't like how she uses my front yard every single day. Build a fence or get over it. 🙄

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkuyi7z/

Commenter insults OP

> Are you that miserable? What a ray of sunshine to have you as a neighbor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/1jowkrq/comment/mkv0b1l/

The Context

Full Thread: I met Tom & Victoria

Vanderpump Rules (VPR) is a now canceled/soon-to-be rebooted reality show that took place in a restaurant in West Hollywood called Sexy Unique Restaurant (SUR), following the lives of the staff that works there. Tom Sandoval was a bartender at Sur and a main cast member of VPR. He recently entered the mainstream pop culture zeitgeist because of a cheating scandal that came to be known as Scandavol. While VPR's 10th season was airing, Tom got caught cheating on his longtime girlfriend with her best friend and fellow castmate. This affair kicked off an intense focus on the show because viewers could watch for clues about the affair in week-to-week intervals. Many fans now see Tom as an irredeemable character and is no longer the number one guy in the group. He was most recently on the new season of Traitors US, and currently has a new gf, Victoria, that was never on the show.

One brave user decided to post that while on a night out, they met Tom and his new girlfriend, reporting they were nice and that SUR was stunning and gave it a 10/10. The sub which is very anti-Tom acted accordingly.

The Drama

OP is accused of being Tom's new gf Victoria:

Why does this feel like it was posted by Victoria...

Because SUR is decidedly NOT stunning. It's extremely dated, and it shows. Rating it a 10/10 is hilarious.

The most accurate description of Lisa's tacky decor I've heard came from the Watch What Crappins pod: "garden party grotesque." 😂

Yep, low-level "astroturfing". If I'm wrong, I am sorry, but these two are KNOWN to do this on reddit.

Yep, he has a thing for Reddit campaigns specifically per Carolyn who repeatedly said she didn't want the latest drama on Reddit because per her "He loves that shit".  We just came off a recent obvious bot campaign from him and the Traitors sub fell hook line and sinker for it.

Lotta red flags in this post and the comments. A Canadian saying it's "a shame" other Canadians are boycotting the US? 🧐

I don't see a photo of tom from sur on their Instagram...

Yeah, cuz it was posted on their story on Saturday.

Okay, well you've volunteered your photos and a video. Would you consider posting them?

You can tell when the posts aren't organic when there are a ton of "comment removed for account not meeting the minimum karma/account age" auto removals at the bottom. This one is super transparent.

Probably a friend of hers after the Viall podcast got such a bad response.

OP isn't a real Canadian:

lol I assure you it was not. Just a no name fan from Canada.
That makes it more suspicious. All the Canadians I know have cancelled any vacation to the states they had planned coming up.

"Unfortunate?" Wow, a Canadian who doesn't even know her entire country is uniting behind a boycott USA movement? Maybe you need to turn off VPR and pick up a newspaper.

Victoria's parents catching strays:

So her parents suck too??? Spoiler. There was a time he treated Arianna like gold too.

What kind of parents support this?? HES CURRENTLY BEING SUED BY 2 EXES! Never mind the all around dick that he is.

You’d stand idly by while your daughter carries on with someone like Tom??? Hell. No. Sure she’s a grown woman but I’m certainly not cuddling up and encouraging this. Not a shot in hell.

This man is vile. Absolutely vile. I’d be horrified and wondering where I went wrong as a mother.

One user uses post as proof Victoria's dad isn't disabled:

That he had a tragic accident and he’s severely disabled. Vicky said she bought him a house and can’t work because she spends all her time caring for him after said accident. I suspect this is a lie and I was correct.

At least I don’t lie about my Father being disabled and use it as an excuse for not working.

I’ll triple down because I remember what she said and I know I’m right. It’s okay that people disagree, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Honorable Mentions:

OP just wondering if you have any qualms about making a gushing post about an abuser who has a history of SA and has sexually violated at least three women that we know of?

Sorry OP, no serious person rates SUR a 10. It's kind of like a more expensive Olive Garden. Not a nicer Olive Garden. Just a more expensive one.

For me, it's not that I don't think he's capable of being friendly, I think he's highly inclined to be friendly whenever it suits him because he's a narcissist, but that's just my opinion. So these stories of him being so nice just kind of makes me roll my eyes because, to me, none of his kindness is authentic. But I'm happy for fans to have the positive experiences they're looking for!

I find it so odd that people meet someone and all of a sudden bc they are nice to you that means they can't possibly be terrible ppl, and then you take time out of your day to advocate for them. Like of course they are nice to you, they have an agenda and need the public to like them so they can make money. Idk maybe I just am not as forgiving, but I would never talk to either of them if they were right in front of me. Lol

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/1joqp3o/john_boyega_says_star_wars_is_so_white_that_a

HIGHLIGHTS

It’s wild to me how many people are pretending not to have seen thousands of comments about “DEI”this or “forced diversity” that. That shit was everywhere, even in a liberal echo chamber like Reddit. Outside of Reddit in more conservative spaces conservatives use the term “DEIsney” to refer to Disney because they hate how often they cast black people.

It was that. We didn't need it. We still don't. Glad the tide is turning the other way.

We didn’t need black people in star wars?

We didn't need forced diversity in star wars.

What, specifically, makes if forced? Why isn't it just regular diversity? What are you trying to imply?

He's right and it's a major fucking bummer.

No he’s not. Where are the hordes of SW fans complaining about this?

Often times literally here on Reddit. Or Twitter. Or YouTube. He’s specifically talking about the weird culture warriors and rage bait YouTubers (and the people that eat that shit up). You know the people. The “I can’t believe a black person or woman is in this!!” fans.

Are you sure you’re not just amplifying anecdotal evidence? Even if you saw 100 such posts, that’s insufficient to ridicule an entire group of people, as the actor here has done.

What evidence must one provide to make a opinionated statement

Google starwars woke.. https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/s/rVfa2aqf74

Such disrespect for the fans. Pretty racist too. The fans have complained a lot about his role being wasted. Not anymore from me at least. Spoiled brat.

Yeah, people who complain about having to deal with racism are always racist. Good call. /s

People who complain using the race of someone are racist yeah.

Insane mental gymnastics to justify not challenging your own internal biases lmfao

There's no mental gymnastic, there's a simpler rule to define racism applied to every case it matches.

You can only speak for yourself. Look at the reactions to the acolyte before it even released because black woman in muh starwarz. Certain elements in this fan base are scum and are often the loudest. You don't have the worst of that directed at you. He does.

I have seen a few negative reviews of the acolyte and comments under them. Nobody cared about her being black or women, people just disliked idiotic writing \ plot. Guess you really have to dig deep to find such reactions.

I think 99 percent of us don’t care about the race if the character and story are written good it’s like 1 percent that are very toxic I haven’t seen it my self but i know from reporting on a lot of YouTube stuff that report on Star Wars talked about the hate boyoga got and Kelly Marie Tran enough to where she quit social media

Laugh in Lando Calrissian and Mace Windu

Laughs at you doing exactly what Boyega calls out in the article: "lemme tell ya, ‘Star Wars’ always had the vibe of being in the most whitest, elite space. It’s a franchise that’s so white that a Black person existing in [it] was something,” Boyega said in the documentary. “You can always tell it’s something when some ‘Star Wars’ fans try to say, ‘Well, we had Lando Calrissian and had Samuel L. Jackson!’ It’s like telling me how many cookie chips are in the cookie dough. It’s like, they just scattered that in there, bro!” “They’re okay with us playing the best friend, but once we touch their heroes, once we lead, once we trailblaze, it’s like, ‘Oh my God, it’s just a bit too much! They’re pandering,'” the actor added, while also acknowledging that being cast in the franchise was a “fundamental moment” in his career."

So what’s “acceptable” to Boyega then? 50% black cast, 80%, 100%? SW was made in and mostly casted from Americans first in the 1970’s and early 2000’s, where majority of the demographics slanted towards white populations. By quite a sizeable margin. It’s not exactly surprising that such trends were reflected in how SW itself was cast at the time.

ah yes, 1977, a notably 90s year. and deeefinitely not the same decade as the rise of blaxploitation film in the us

The black population of the US was around 11% That means if you have 3 random people, it's probable 0 are black (Han, Luke, Leia).

I can’t stand race baiting. It’s incredibly obnoxious and racisms biggest lifeline. Finn was pretty widely accepted as being a big hero in the sequels. Most people seemed to want Finn to be that guy. I certainly did. I loved his character in that first movie, It was piss poor writing that relegated him to the side. Not racism. Lando was absolutely a significant hero in Return. He was awesome and universally loved. We are all clamoring for a Lando show. He was flying the beloved Falcon guns blazing through the Death Star which was arguably more heroic a scene than Han had during that movie. I just disagree with Boyega here. I think he’s just playing the race card like he often seems to do.

Finn and Lando are pre-2016 election casting and therefore have never been attacked the way others after them have. HOWEVER, you cannot dent that since 2017’s TLJ, any show that has a black lead is instantly called “woke”. Obi-Wan was called woke bc of Moses Ingram. Ewan McGregor literally made a public statement denouncing the racist fans. The Acolyte was called “woke” before the show’s first trailer and had over 1000 1 star reviews an hour before the first episode came out. If TFA was announced today, in today’s cultural environment, it would not be as universally hyped as it was in 2015 and would have the same “woke” debate and controversy that quite literally every single big budget movie or video game has to have at some point these days

so maybe take the fucking hint. stop forcing identity politics into your shows to buy audience demographics. Write compelling stories and characters such that it DOESN'T MATTER what color or how gay they are. People don't want this, no matter how much you do.

So identity politics is when black character then?

Bro that's such bullshit. His character would have been the perfect jedi story and one of the main heros. He ended up being Terribly written and pointless. It's not that he's black you asshat

I don’t think it’s fair to invalidate how he feels within the fanbase’s changing landscape. It’s indeed true that a lot of fans were rooting for his character, but it’s equally true that he was treated unfairly due to his race as well. The intial news about his character saw a loud amount of people object to him, the whole poster thing, the bullying of his Asian/female co-star, the rise of anti-sjw post the last Jedi, and everything leading up to anti-woke vitriol directed at the acolyte cast before a single episode aired. All those things are true

That's some feels over reals shit if I've ever seen it.

Just like the feels of the fanbase that are taking his comments personally? Again, that’s your perspective and the perspective of others, but that perspective has already been acknowledged and validated. Disney plays a huge role in being disorganized and fumbling the bag, but let’s not pretend that Boyega didn’t experience the kind of toxicity of the fanbase that he’s talking about and know this fanbase is capable of.

I'm sure he experienced toxicity, I'm also sure that those toxic racist voices were amplified in an attempt at marketing like others at the time, to make it "anti-racist" to go see it. That was the big marketing gimmick at the time. Like the overblown claims of mysogyny blamed for the bad Ghostbusters not doing well.

Boyega is such a complainer. The majority of fans have an issue with how his character was written and the writing of all those movies in general. That’s Disney’s fault. Andor is played by Mexican Diego Luna, I don’t see any racist opinions on him and he’s the star of the series. Boyega making this about fans unable to handle a black actor at the centre is such bull. They just want good writing.

You're counting minorities there, trying to prove a point that the franchise doesn't have issues with racism? This is exactly what he was talking about, fans counting the chocolate chips in their cookies.

Again, I will ask you once more how many chocolate chip cookies is enough? You can say that about any number of minority actors. It’s another exercise and madness. And again, John Boyega is not the arbiter of what the correct number of minority actors per film is. John Boyega is a mid actor that had potential, got wasted by Disney, and is going on racist rants ever since.

You're the one who apparently wants to count. John is just stating the bullshit other people have told him. If you can't figure out why it's wrong to be counting in the first place, I can't help you

I’m not asking you to help me, I don’t want your help I’m saying that there is no number of minorities that John Boyega will suddenly change his tune and be like “yep we are no longer in chocolate chip cookie territory, this is a black film”. This film could have 500 Black people and he would still say chocolate chip cookies. It could have 500 Asian people, and he would say chocolate chip cookies If it has 10 white people, he would still be saying chocolate chip cookies.

And you're still counting, good job proving this point.

Justified but misdirected anger and resentment here… blame the feminists at Lucasfilm for wanting diversity but only making women strong. The sequel trilogy was a joke 💯☝️

4.6 billion dollar joke. Three of the highest grossing movies of all time. Laughing all the way to the bank I guess.

John Boyega is not the arbiter of how many minorities need to be casted before a film is acceptable.

That's a lot of copying and pasting you're doing there. I mean I'm glad you're this triggered, but you might want to just try reading the article.

It was difficult to keep up with you.

[Nah I totally felt the opposite. I loved his casting but the posters painted him as a jedi and a hero. And the movies really did him dirty.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/1joqp3o/john_boyega_says_star_wars_is_so_white_that_a/mktxdeo/

You guys are retroactively changing the whole narrative, I remember very well the backlash from the first trailer of TFA, just because he was shown first and people thought he would be the protagonist. They lost their mind that a black person could be the main character. The whole sub is now pretending this didn't happen and I wonder why.

I don't recall seeing any backlash because he was black, but then I wasn't on Reddit in 2015. All the comments on YouTube at the time seemed positive about the casting. You get racists coming out of the woodwork for any project (see AC Shadows) but that shouldn't take away from the enjoyment if you like the casting choices. "The whole sub is now pretending this didn't happen and I wonder why." As I say, I wasn't here back then and I imagine a few people who were, have moved on by now. Or been banned. Again, I didn't see any racism at the casting choice for The Acolyte, it just got called out for being shite.

"I don't recall seeing any backlash because he was black" Fascinating ! I must be the insane one who invented this then.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I am saying that I don't recall seeing it. I never had a problem with him being cast. In fact, I thought it was a solid choice. Take a deep breath and chill.

I'm just not surprised that someone would jump on this occasion to say "I didn't see none of it", I wonder if you would have taken the time for any other event you haven't seen, to describe how you haven't witnessed it. I think it's fascinating, you would make that choice.

The moderator is trying desperately to keep r/haiku its purest form of happiness and nature focused poems. while users just want to submit poems or thoughts with 17 syllables. this is the most commented on ever post on the sub at 102 comments. the daily removal of users posts and comments has culminated into the drama we see unfolding here: https://www.reddit.com/r/haiku/comments/1jjwvxy/the_envious_moon_hanging_sick_and_pale_with_grief/ They battle in haiku form to prove their point and voice their opinions. multiple other subreddits have been created because of this constant and ongoing drama about poems and what is allowed to be submitted and what is not. others in the thread seek compassion and understanding of poetic art forms while the mod team delivers blow after blow denouncing anything that isn't pure traditional haiku.

OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1joit6v/what_trans_women_are_women_means/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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It’s doing more harm than good. My initial thought was about a trans woman who sucked all the oxygen out of the room at a pro abortion meeting for woman. Like what the fuck was she doing there. I definitely don’t roll up to trans spaces and tout my worry’s about my own medical care. I’m not a trans woman. Trans women deserve to be in women’s rights and support groups, just not uterus specific abortion, forced birth, birth trauma, trauma related to post rape pregnancy scare, etc. I expect the same standard to be held to me, a cis woman, about trans surgery, trans trauma, trans body dysmorphia, etc. specific spaces.

• "Surely, she should be allowed to attend if it's for women. Would other women who couldn't birth children be disallowed? The issue is her talking over other women. Her priority should be to be there as a listener and ally."
  • "It's disingenuous to conflate women who are female and infertile for one reason or another with women who have a sub zero chance of experiencing birth, or even the other tribulations that come with having a uterus. If there pops up a technology that makes it possible and she acquires a female reproductive system, then sure. Until then, I'm confused about what having someone amab sit in is going to bring to the table at a pro-abortion meetup. It's just awkward"
    • Personally, if I were allowed in, I’d be there to listen to everybody’s POV and get educated. Because we should all be angry when women are in the crosshairs of a bunch of stupid old men on high horses. I might not have a uterus, but my rage is as real as yours. PS: Please don’t call us AMAB. At the very least, I would prefer not be defined by my Y chromosome.
    • "why won't you listen and be educated by women's point of view that you're a man and you're not welcome in our private spaces?"
• "I'm saying. 💀 I don't rock up to a discussion about a topic that concerns latinas as an asian girl just because we're all women. I've had this exact argument before with amab people who genuinely claim to experience a uterine cycle, and everyone with endo/PMDD/grueling periods are looking at them like "uh...""
  • "You do know that the symptoms of PMDD are caused by more than just having an uterus right? And that a lot of trans women, including myself, experience hormonal cycles due to the way we administer our estrogen?"

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I think if I was born male, I'd just live as a man and accept that as my reality. I'm not the type of person who'd bother to transition and/or make large changes to myself. I don't understand the trans experience and I accept that. I'm also confused what this point has to do with anything. Okay, you can theoretically imagine what being a cis woman would be like. Now what? I'm sure you have cisgender friends or at least know of cisgender women that have a very different experience of womanhood than you do, and that is something to be celebrated. Sure. This doesn't change that there IS a fundamental difference between being cis and trans

• "Wow dude ur blowing my mind here. Wow. Trans and cis are different? 🤯 it’s like they’re two different words 🤯 terfs are always afraid to say what they actually believe so they just type dumb shit like this. Can’t say “I hate trans” so they say “ummmmmm all I’m saying is trans and cis are different” yeah they are dude. Tf is ur point"
  • LOL terf is a very specific ideology that goes way beyond "I don't think it's correct to group all women as one entity". They'd kick me out for thinking trans women can be categorized as women alone. Go do your algebra homework if you don't have anything to add
    • Um ok cute slogan so what were you trying to add by saying “This doesn’t change that there IS a fundamental difference between being cis and trans.” Again, tf is ur point
    • Continued(Reddit formatting weird) : "Bitch fix your fucking attitude and get the fuck out of my face until you gather some reading comprehension. YOU are the one approaching me with nothingburger responses. Just loud and illiterate and annoying. No one was talking to you"
    • "I’m trying!!! I keep rereading this sentence and, try as I might, it doesn’t seem to be saying anything at all 🤔"

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My trans brother explained it to me like this. "Trans women are women" doesn't mean "trans women are cis women" it means "the category of "woman" has more than one kind of woman in it" or "trans women and cis women are both women". Which made things clearer for me. A lot of my confusion as someone who grew up in a transphobic culture was the idea that trans people were claiming to be biologically the same as cis women which is obviously not true. It's not that they're biologically the same, but more that the definition of "woman" is broader than we think even without including trans women.

• "Right. But keep in mind, it’s not our biology that makes trans women trans or cis women cis. It’s what we were assigned if we align with it or not. Those of us who go through medical transition would be considered biologically female. Of course we wouldn’t have all the typical female traits. But more than male. There are a lot of cis women who also don’t have the typical female biological traits too. So one could even say, trans and cis women can have a large degree of overlapping biological sex traits if not even very fairly similar biological experiences. Anyway, my main point is the whole biological sex component is complicated, medical, and personal. It’s nothing any of us should be using to group others."
  • "You would not be considered biologically female..."

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This part rubbed me the wrong way, too. It's like telling me that since I'm a woman I [should] conform to stereotypes about my gender. And I'm not going to.

• "That's what trans is"

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It's because when you are raised as a girl and society treats you as a girl, you experience a completely different childhood than someone who is not. That is absolutely not to say trans women are not women because if they are, they are. Brains and hormones and sex v gender manifestion is a complex body of work. But when you are socialized as a girl, as a woman - there are some things that absolutely shape you. In the way that growing up with abuse, for example, can give you PTSD - it's something that other people who don't have trauma can't really get that easily. In a similar vein, I can never understand how difficult it must be to be raised and treated as the opposite gender that you are. It leaves scars I will never actually truly understand, and I am sincerely sorry.

• "I understand what you mean, but the way it is put does seem to be defining “girl” and “trans girl” as separate things. And they aren’t. The trans woman/girl experience is being raised as a girl who is not acknowledged as a girl. Girls come in all shapes and colors, one of which is trans. So being a girl in a body that is shaped like a boy’s is still having a girl experience. Having others treat you like a boy while actually being a girl is a girl experience. We all experience being female in different ways. My experience is vastly different from some other women’s. I don’t see how the difference of being a trans girl is so much more that it puts them in a different category."
  • "you are literally not female. your male experience has led you to believe you can take whatever you like from women, including our identity. YOU CAN'T."

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I refuse to attack you. We need to let Trans women speak on this sub and listen. You all have a voice and it matters

• "Not trying to be rude, but isn't this sub specifically for people with 'two x chromosomes', to discuss things that affect only us ... There are other subs like r/women that should include a broader swath of women."
  • "This sub is inclusive of trans women. The mods made it clear. My comment is more about how I don’t like seeing people pile on a person to the point that it becomes bullying"

Main post: I mean, being a superhero is just like being a police officer or in the military, so there are times where you’re going to have to kill, and that’s part of the job.

Plenty of morality arguments inbound:
What gives the hero the right to take someone’s life?

Why is the idea that some people just value human life enough to not want to kill under any circumstance so crazy?

Killing is something the vast majority of people are incapable of and Mark, whom was raised a human, is no different. Even when he thought he killed Armstrong, the guy who broke his mothers arm, he was still incredibly disturbed by it and wasn't intending to do it. It is like being a police officer as you state: Killing is the last resort. I still think his thought process is quite confusing as he doesn't believe in rehabilitation of these people yet is willing to imprison them yet is unwilling to kill them.

And lastly:
Once you start making that decision, it's incredibly easy to escalate and it becomes a slippery slope, exacerbated by the fact that you would theoretically have the power to do so. Once you start doing that, whose to say you don't make a mistake? Why do you get to arbitrarily decide who to kill? Is your judgement always correct? Is there a check on that? What happens when you do make a mistake? What happens if you decide people need to die because you think so, but the general public disagrees?

For some context /r/puer is a subreddit dedicated towards discussing Pu'er tea, a type of tea originating from Yunnan, China that is often pressed into cakes and fermented to gain an earthy flavor. Outside of China Pu'er has it's own small subculture around it on the internet that is rather tightly knit and often traces back to small forums and discord servers. Due to this tightly knit nature and the fact that people running shops for buying pu'er among other related specialty teas to western markets(henceforth referred to as vendors) often use these forums there is a special type of relation to them where the people who are the face of each vendor often being referred to by their first name. There has been plenty of drama involving vendors in the past but those are not the focus of this post.

Jesse's Tea House is a Youtube/Tiktok/etc channel and vendor which is run by Jesse Appell. Jesse has been who is to put it bluntly the most visible figure within english language chinese tea in the west at the current moment due to his beginner focused content on chinese teas. The vendor came about during the pandemic and is mostly differentiated by 1) being curated 2) being aimed towards beginners 3) shipping from within the United States and Europe.

Jesse has attracted quite some ire from online tea spaces primarily due to his high pricings and accusations that he resells teaware from taobao, with some accusing him of ripping his customers who are new to tea off. He's additionally the most visible 'tea guy' online and by virtue of him mentioning pu'er in some of his videos he is also the most visible pu'er guy online and will therefore attract more hate.

On March 31st of 2025 a user posted a meme to the /r/puer subreddit entitled the 44 year old teashop oowner. Showing a wojak meme of Jesse. Some users beleive the post to be mean-spirited or exclusionary and this cause some small spats to show up in the comments.

This post is hard cringe, low effort, and no value added to this community

I don't get the JTH hate. I've never heard him claim that his tea is the best price, he just likes sharing his tea knowledge and selling his stuff. I bought some of those double walled glass cups from him, and they're great.

This "community" is more toxic than one would expect.

All the people hating on Jesse pay a tax on some other shit they like happily then hate on a dude running a buisness bringing tea to folks that would never learn about it.

His tea costs on average 20% more than Yunnan Sourcing. So you pay 20% more to have one guy curate the tea and make vidoes about it and stuff, if your new to tea im not sure how that makes him a "parasite" but i do not wish to know.

Be kinder folks. Lots of shit out there rn dont be a turd.

Hey I've been trying to get into the sport for a while and I'd like some tips on how to become the best olympic dicksucker possible.

I didn't expect so much people defending this guy here. Are we turning into r/tea?

My favorite piece of BS from him is that with high quality tea you don't need a strainer...

You don’t.

Care to elaborate on this BS? Cause near as I can tell, tons of high quality teas have sediment (especially depending on the way they're broken up) and tons of low quality teas can have 0 sediment. Unless your only measure of quality is sediment... in which case the pricing structure on teas is insane.

I feel his grift isn't tea, it's promoting Chinese culture, if he gets tiktok famous he can try to get on TV in China...but he's goofy enough he seems nice, I'm sure if I tried to sell tea it have to be overpriced you always get the white monkey price.

He was on tv in China for years before Covid. He was in their equivalent of SNL.

There is some other stuff in the thread that is more akin to discussion with some maligning of Jesse and discussion around his pricing. It didn't feel quite like drama so I have left them out even if they were argumentative.

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Pro AI comments/AI-Neutral comments:

Yeah a lot of the outrage over this is way over the top. It's practically being used as a Snapchat filter, it's not the end of the world...

Gunna break from the norm here... I find the reaction to this incredibly overblown. None of you had an issue with Snapchat filters turning everyone into Disney characters. You don't care when it's anyone else's style. I get Miyazaki said he doesn't like AI and that's his right to feel that way, but unless people are actively trying to profit off these works, how is it any different than someone drawing in his style? People are just having fun with it. He and his studio are getting tons of recognition and attention from this. They're going to be just fine, and as they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Calling it an insult to anime is absurd... it's the most generic, copied, low-creativity art style of all time, where 95% of it looks the same. Not Miyazaki's style in particular but anime in general. Like come on...

I think people don't realize how much other technology already does this. The internet replaced the jobs of people who would transport information. Calculators replaced the jobs of people who would do just that. In each case people lost their job and didn't receive anything for it. This is the effect technology always has, though often it isn't as large scale. Why is the idea of having a machine create your dnd character portrait offensive because you just cost an artist a commission, but using the internet to send that commission isn't despite it costing a courier their commission? The difference is that one was replace long ago and the other is only now in the middle of being replaced.

I’m tired of the backlash against AI art. It’s a tool - like a brush, a camera, or a digital tablet - and true creatives will find ways to use it with originality and flair. The uproar over things like the “Ghibli style” in AI misses the point. Yes, Hayao Miyazaki once called AI “an insult to life itself” in 2016, reacting to a crude demo, and Studio Ghibli’s never been a fan. But these AI-generated images aren’t theft - they’re tributes from fans who adore that iconic aesthetic. Art’s always been a conversation, borrowing and building across generations; AI’s just the latest voice in the mix. Arguments like it disrespects the years poured into mastering a craft - say, 18 years perfecting portraiture. I get it; that dedication matters. But digital art didn’t kill painting - traditional works still hang in galleries and fetch millions. AI doesn’t erase skill; it amplifies access. History shows this pattern: Renaissance flowed into Impressionism, Expressionism into Modernism, and now we’re here. Each shift sparked resistance, then growth. AI’s not here to replace artists - it’s here to invite everyone to the table. It’s not an insult; it’s evolution. Embrace it, wield it, or watch it reshape the world anyway.

Yes it is. Because they never showed any solidarity with the workers on the assembly lines replaced by robots. None of you cared then. You don't care now about AI replacing people doing data computation. You don't care about AI self driving cars replacing taxi drivers. You don't care about 3D printers replacing people who make molds or sculptures.  Yeah, it's all about themselves. They aren't arguing about keeping their jobs. They're arguing that " it isn't real art". Did you ever read the opinion pieces of painters during the adoption of photography? They are saying the exact same thing almost word for word. Photography sucks the life out of art. It's devoid of emotion and inspiration. It's a technological solution to something that didn't need solving. It would drive thousands of artists out of work. Photography has no feeling. They said all this and more.  And guess what? Photography is seen as art now. 

Best example of this was that Adam Tots post on r/comics where his SO shows him a picture of them in that Ghibli AI style. Last panel is Adam wanting to shoot himself. Really healthy response to your SO showing you something they think is cute.

That’s fair use. Training AI is significantly transformative. This is how the laws work, this is how they’ve always worked, this is what artists have always known about putting their work out there.  If you’re not aware, Google famously won a lawsuit about 10 years ago that said their for-profit venture of scanning millions of copyrighted books and making them searchable and readable online was transformative enough to be fair use.  Obviously training AI is significantly more transformative than that. I’m certain you didn’t care when people were “misusing his art” by using stills to create memes. Suddenly it’s bad to use them? Come on…

Pro-AI/Neutral-AI long take

Anti-AI comments:

No one is a Luddite here. Ghibli stopped using cells in 1997 with Princess Mononoke. I think in fact they were one of the pioneers in anime adopting computer technology. They understand computers are just a tool so in those instances where they can amplify human creativity they're good. That's why they use a mix of paper and pencil and computers to get the best of both worlds. LLM generation is the opposite of amplifying human creativity, they limit it because it's just a lazy corner cutting.

the real issue is that the AI is clearly trained on copyrighted material without permission in order to recreate like that. this is what the discussion should be about.

AI is currently being used to replace huge chunks of everyday workers. Writers, artists, musicians, etc. It's been created by some tech companies just copying all this copywritten art from all over the internet and teaching their AI to imitate it, which they then use to make huge amounts of money. So they are stealing millions of copywritten works from the general public, and then flood the market that those people were in with cheap mass produced AI "art" to hoover up money with the work they stole. AI in this case is a representation of corporations just stealing more money from your average Joe. And people do not care about pirating Metallica because they are worth a billion dollars and they don't need more money. TL;DR: Capitalism.

None of the replacement technologies so far relied on the work of the people it replaced to function, Sam himself said that AI would be useless if not allowed to be trained on every piece of copyrighted material they can get their hands on. If you told a judge he'd lose his job because you invented a computer that uses his rulings and footage of court cases to replace him as a judge, you'd see how quickly this principle of replacement tech would get banned forever

Anti-AI long take

EDIT: Changed to be neutral