I’ve been thinking about this lately, a Persepolis Rising-based movie is possible. But to make it work, you'd need to catch non-fans up on six seasons' (or books') worth of lore right at the start. Realistically, the movie would only get made if non-fans buy the majority of theater tickets, since that's the only way to cover production costs and make a profit.

How would I do it? Open with a classroom scene on Laconia. Use it to explain the events of Seasons 1–6: humanity’s expansion into the solar system (like in the pilot), Martian independence, the Earth–Mars war, the protomolecule, the ring gates, the Free Navy conflict, and the colonization of alien worlds. Present it like an educational video for kids, something you’d actually show in school, then pull away to reveal a classroom, then pull away again to reveal the built up Laconian capital city, in the same style as the Season 6 opening drawing into the ring builder shipyard in the sky, that way, non-fans are brought up to speed without it feeling like an info dump.

As for changes in the movie? Replace Alex’s character with his son, Melas, personally i think he should be played by Vinny Chhibber, his work on For All Mankind was fantastic. To explain who Melas is, include a scene where he talks with Holden about the message Holden sent him and Talissa after Alex’s death in Season 5. In it, Holden tells him that if he ever wants to fly after his mandatory MCRN service, there’s a place for him on the Rocinante. To those scratching your heads like "when the hell did this happen" it didn't, this is something that would be revealed in the movie.

Somebody get me in touch with Amazon and James S. A. Corey. I’ve got ideas.

side note, I have been writing a piece of fan content I hope to make with some friends HOPEFULLY later this year; I wanna create a concept for a season 7 opening, I wanna cut up season 6 into a "previously on" piece, then a fake opening scene on Freehold with one of my buddies in the desert (i always interpreted Freehold as a temerate dry planet) playing Payne Houston looking up at the Rocinante landing on Freehold; this cut will probably be the Rocinante landing on Illus scene but with a yellow hue. (I am going to do this on a zero dollar budget) and I have been playing around with After Effects to teach myself how to modify the expanse opening sequence for season 7, I wanna make it a sequence of ominous planets with the cast's names and the planet names (Laconia and Castila mostly) next to them. Will include a lot of the ring graphics from the season 3 - 6 openings too.

3x4" iron on

Please no spoilers.

I'll be honest... I came into The Expanse with a bit of bias. I always knew it existed, and the Sci-Fi universe I see it compared to the most is Revelation Space, which I love.

Part of me always hated that it got the (apparently quite faithful) TV show treatment whilst Revelation Space still hasn't. Admittedly I've always been a bit jealous despite knowing nothing about The Expanse. I know, it's petty.

(Jokes aside, I just love Physics and Sci-fi, and really hope someday I get that movie/TV show - I'm not here to say which is better or compare them at all etc, I like them for different reasons - but that's how I came to learn about The Expanse).

But the time had come for me to take the plunge. I was going to see what all the fuss is about. I wasn't sure whether to start with the books or the show, but ended up deciding that the original story is the way to go, and perhaps I'll circle back to the show once I finish.

At first I hated the book. The Prologue very quickly grabbed my attention, but then so much else of the book felt like it had nothing to do with it - at least at first. We jumped from what felt like some creepy sci-fi body horror to space politics and police work. I felt nothing for Holden and the gang, and actively disliked Miller. That wasn't a problem on it's own, since I'll be the first to tell you that the characters in Revelation Space are like cardboard; but here the story was quite character-driven, and I didn't care for the characters. I was hoping for some crazy sci-fi shit.

I was ready to put the book down. But I needed to know what the prologue was about.

When the plotlines eventually converged, I became much more interested. I literally inhaled the second half. All of a sudden this hard, realistic science fiction full of politics, bickering humans and racism introduced the Protomolecule. The fact that everything so far was so grounded made it seem that much more alien. It was simply cool as fuck, and all the worldbuilding allows you to appreciate how insane a discovery it is. I was engrossed by everything it was doing, and I'm very excited to see where it goes. It even has a cool name.

By the final act, I was quite sad for Miller, and actually felt gutted he wasn't going to stick around. I hated Holden for abandoning him even though everyone unilaterally agreed that shooting Dresden was the right thing to do.

I'll be honest, I still don't feel at all emotionally invested in Holden and his crew, but it's the first book of 9 so there's plenty left to go. I am very excited to find out what happens next.

A solar system about to erupt once more into war, the small crew of the Rocinante, and an impossibly advanced alien entity that everybody is watching and nobody understands. It's a perfect recipe for the series to go crazy.

I'd be reading book 2 right now if my delivery wasn't delayed.

I think I've gotten over my bias.

Do you think that Naomi and Drummer hooked up? It's ambiguous and only hinted at, but Naomi does say "I love you" to Drummer when leaving the Behemoth (I'm just now realizing that the reason that she tries to leave without saying goodbye is because of her past trauma with Marco). I find it hard to believe that Drummer would betray her collective in S5 for the purely platonic friendship with Naomi that we saw on screen. Not that platonic relationships can't be meaningful, just that there is an implication of a deeper bond formed during her six-month stint of the Behemoth.

I am reminded of a passage from Ursula K Le Guin's The Dispossessed:

"They met again the next evening and discussed whether or not they should pair for a while, as they had when they were adolescent. It had to be discussed, because Shevek was pretty definitely heterosexual and Bedap pretty definitely homosexual; the pleasure of it would be mostly for Bedap. Shevek was perfectly willing, however, to reconfirm the old friendship; and when he saw that the sexual element of it meant a great deal to Bedap, was, to him, a true consummation, then he took the lead, and with considerable tenderness and obstinacy made sure that Bedap spent the night with him again. They took a free single in a domicile downtown, and both lived there for about a decad; then they separated again, Bedap to his dormitory and Shevek to Room 46. There was no strong sexual desire on either side to make the connection last. They had simply reasserted trust."

The change between books and show that amuses me the most is replacing Bull with Drummer. Drummer goes through basically the same story arc as Bull. The problem is that Bull dies in Abaddon’s Gate. But Drummer, being a fan favorite, they don’t want to kill her off, but she also can’t be around in Nemesis Games, so they have to come up with a different role for her. This presents another problem because book Drummer takes over after Bull dies. So they can’t keep Drummer, but they need a new security chief for Tycho, so they add Bull back in where Drummer should be.

Cara Gee does a great job as Drummer and definitely wouldn’t change that. It just amuses how convoluted that one decision made the rest of the story between Drummer and Bull.

The event is on Eventbrite. I am no way affiliated with the organisers, just giving my fellow fans a chance to hang out!!

Tuesday 27 May 2025, 6pm, £5 ticket:

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/piccadilly-sci-fi-and-fantasy-book-club-tickets-1295649004049

The event blub:

May Science Fiction & Fantasy Book Club with bookseller Ella

Join us for our Sci-Fi & Fantasy Book Club at Waterstones Piccadilly on the last Tuesday of every month. Chat with our expert bookseller about the best Sci-Fi & Fantasy has to offer, both old and new.

The book for this month's book club will be Leviathan Wakes by James S. A. Corey.

Meticulously realised and immensely exciting, Corey's intricate space-opera sends a vessel's officer off in search of a mysterious girl who holds the key to avoiding intergalactic conflict.

End of event blurb.

Clearly most of us here already know whether or not that intergalactic conflict is avoided or not ....!

Let me know if you're going, perhaps a trip to a pub after is needed :)

I don't know why but Drummer especially stood out to me, every scene she was in she stole. In a show of amazing actors

When you're three drinks in, feeling down, doom scrolling YouTube of your favorite Expanse videos, who do you gravitate (ha!) to?

For me it's always Drummer but sometimes Amos but only because there's not comparable video for Ashford.

When days, weeks, months are difficult, I find solace in the idea that, no mater where we go, or how advanced we become as 'humanity', we will always be broken people striving to be better. On our good days.

One of the things I enjoyed about the show and the books were the antecedents I thought of. I say antecedents because I don't know what the authors read and am not saying they stole anything. But THE EXPANSE is part of a long history of science fiction.

Hey folks! Probably not the first time you have seen this model but I am proud to showcase my very own 3d printed Rocinante! Huge kudos to Martin for the amazingly detailed model (link). Its not perfect since its one of my first 3d models on an Ender 3 V3 SE so there was a lot of trial and error done, plus I had to get my hands dirty in order to paint some of the parts (I am not a very good painter).

I fell in love with world of the Expanse from the first few episodes itself and was bummed when it was revealed they would not proceed with adapting the last 3 books (still clinging to hope for it to happen in the future). Though my urge to know more of the story lead me to get back into reading books (I have read all of them including the short stories!) and my desire for some memorabilia lead me to pick up 3d printing as a new hobby. This is the first big model I have worked on, but may not be the last, after all there are many more amazing ships in the Expanse :)

I started the books in the middle of Feb and I have already read every book and novella up until book 7 (just started today). I just finished the show and FUCK I need more. I really hope with the authors other book being adapted by Amazon they rip the band aid off and do more. I know the authors said the company that produces the show is dedicated to the IP and wants to do more with it AND that season 6 is just a pause/hiatus but god I need more.

So I finally finished the show and while I think they wrapped it up pretty well, I’m a little annoyed that a couple of plot points just never got revisited. One was the little girl colonist who got those dog like creatures to bring her brother back to life. The other was the weird protomolocule ship that Marco had created/facilitated being created?

I just wish I knew what happened to those points

I do plan on reading the rest of the books (so far I’ve only finished the first one) so maybe I’ll get answers there?

So i just backed the new "A Little Death" 3 book hardcover comic, and I missed out on the Dragon Tooth one. I'm a huge fan of the series, loved the show, read all of the novels multiple times...etc. Is there a way to get the 3 "Dragon Tooth" hardcovers other than paying inflated prices from Kickstarter resellers? Did they, or do they plan on releasing hardcover versions outside of the Kickstarter?

I'm working my way through a re-read via the audiobooks, first time I've read the final 3 since they all came out and didn't remember a ton of the details of the story. And now I'm curious about how people felt about each character's chapters. Not whether you liked the character or not, just how much you enjoyed reading their chapters. For example Singh was a very hateable character but I his chapters made me laugh. Some others I didn't like:

• Havelock (book 4). God I hate this guy. He's such a spineless little wuss. He spends the entire book not doing anything.
• Tanaka (book 9). The reason I'm writing this. I'm just not a fan, especially her sex stuff which felt really random and out of place. This late in the story I didn't really wanna be meeting someone new anyway, and her headspace just isn't that compelling to me.
• Elvi (book 4), while she's horny for Holden. It's rough. I love her chapters in the later books, though her parts with Fayez are very corny, but early-midway through book 4 it was excruciating.
• Bull (book 3). Meh.
• All the Free Navy people in book 6. I found it really hard to keep track of who was who or why I should care.

I am rewatching the series after reading the books again, and my biggest gripe is what they did to Arjun, Avasarala's husband. Not only was he the recast not great, not to shit on the actor he just didn't fit the role, but the way they wrote him on season 4 is awkward at best, straight up ruins the character at worst. I almost have to skip scenes when he's present.

Arjuns brief role in both the books and the show were very heart warming and wholesome with his unconditional love for his wife, and he acts as her rock where she can disconnect from her role as a cutthroat politician, definitely not her political advisor, I hate it. Just had to bitch about it somewhere.

When Holden is chasing after the Zmeya, the Zmeya launches a whole bunch of apparently non-nuclear torpedoes. In response Holden launches exactly..... two???! torpedoes that simply take out two of the enemy torpedoes.

In season 3 ep 2 when The Roci saves the Razorback, Holden used a bunch of nuclear torpedoes to excellent effect to destroy other incoming torpedoes.

So why the H E double hockey sticks did he not launch a single nuke to blow up that barrage of torpedoes?! A few episodes later they launch a nuke to destroy Naomi's cursed ship, so they obviously had SOME nukes on board.

This smells like a really obvious plot contrivance. Do the books address this?

The series imo has average acting. I enjoy the story line, enjoy the planet jumping ecosystem that is the whole expanse idea I guess. I continue to watch because of that. I understand there could be times the actors are told to draw down the act but I don't like wooden actors in any way. The visual and full emotional touch is what makes certain videos/series great imo. I am watching it again because it has been so long since I watched it one time before.  
Heres a "guess who" game: Even though I think the acting was average, and Im no professional, but what I can tell you is, theres one person who actually is arguably (imo the person is the best) the best actor in this series. I guess many would say thats objective or depends because every person has there own opinion. To that i would say yes thats true, but this person is so good i dont think its just my opinion. The person is just a very seasoned actor with a plethora of acts to the persons name. This person is known in the film industry, but underrated for sure. This person in every role that I've seen, has always made me excited that the person is in the film I'm watching because the person's talent at acting is genuinely great. You may not like the character (or maybe you do) but the person is an amazing actor. I'm not saying who but I think there enough there to make guesses.... any takers???

(Ps: I say actor interchangeably. I could mean actor or I could mean actress. That's what I mean. Maybe I am trying to confuse you on purpose?)

Reddit is filled with many amazing people from all walks of life. I believe many of you will be able to guess the person I'm thinking of based of just reading my post. Thank you to everyone!

I couldn't find a wallpaper of Remember the Cant without Holden's face, so I made this. Feel free to use it as you want.

I carved her out of cherry and laid in black epoxy resin.

I finally got all the clean DTF transfer films of my designs & 2 white T-shirts. Carefully measured and ironed onto both shirts, a bit nerve wracking doing the first press. Some very small dots didn't transfer despite lots of heat/pressure but not noticeable.

Doing 2 black MCRN tees tomorrow!

Just had a weird coincidence happen to me. I (re)watched a few episodes of the expanse this morning and 'met' Clarissa, saw her kill a ship full of people just to try and "redeem" her father's legacy.

Then I got in my car and have been listening to Persepolis Rising while driving, and happened to get to her final scene (unless it's a fake out, I'm still listening, just started chapter 49).

Just thought it was a weird coincidence, but it was also an interesting glimpse of how much her time with the crew of The Roci helped her after being raised by a crazy guy.

(not really sure how best to tag this so just went with all spoilers?)

Anyway, if you were a ship captain how hard would you be burning when just jaunting around in space? It is often mentioned that the Roci's standard is ~0.3g so Naomi and Alex aren't suffering, but as the Earthers we are, we're used to 1g. Personally I think I'd prefer something like 1.2g; seems like it would be akin to always having a weighted blanket on. I could also hear an argument for remaining on the float as much as possible, but I think low but present gravity would really mess with my brain.

First off, let me apologize for the inevitable lack of structure in this post. I'm just going to be posting my thoughts as they come to me. I already have a habit of constantly rewriting my sentences, and I want to avoid spending hours on this.

Here's the highlight: Amazing book, even better than Leviathan Wakes. Overall, it continued the trend of being even better than the show, although there were parts of the show I was disappointed to not find in book form.

First off, I was really shocked by how different book 2 was from the show. I think some people told me it would be, but I still expected it to be very similar to the show, like book 1. There were several plot points that were massively different. For example, Bobbie didn't uncover any conspiracy in the Martian government. Sorren was a new character to me (and one I really liked, until I didn't). Most of all, Holden and Naomi were very different.

One thing that really pleased me was that Chrisjen "Wherever I God damn like!" Avasarala remained an absolute QUEEN! Shohreh Aghdashloo absolutely nailed her in her performance. I laughed more from her lines alone than I did from all other characters combined. It was also different lines than the show, yet no less iconic.

I had a lot more appreciation for Prax in the book. I'll admit the main reason I liked him in the show is because he was hot, but I could relate to him a fair amount, specially the way he intellectualizes his feelings during extremely overwhelming moments. I've also got my own special interests, and have grabbed my computer to protect during a tornado, so I could relate to him trying to save his plant. By the way, I'm autistic. I know you're shocked.

It was great getting more focus on Amos this time. Like I said in my Leviathan Wakes review, he's one of my favorite characters (yes, I'm planning on reading The Churn after Abaddon's Gate). I was surprised that he shows a lot more outward emotion than in the show. I'm curious if, canonically speaking, that's genuine or masking.

I think one of my only disappointments is that I didn't get this iconic line in book form. Instead it was written almost as a joke of a scene. I also felt like the chapters around Io had some rushed parts.

I may edit this later with more thoughts, but I'd love to hear what you all think. Please though, no future book spoilers. 😊