r/USPS Aug 30 '18

I had to cross-share this, from. Fb, because it's so satisfying.

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u/jacob6875 Rural Carrier Aug 30 '18

Amazon only pays drivers per stop so all those packages count as 1 stop.

If I was an Amazon driver I wouldn't want to walk around the entire apartment complex either attempting to deliver to peoples doors if I didn't get paid for it.

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u/OhCanDo Aug 30 '18

Amazon only pays drivers per stop so all those packages count as 1 stop.

wait wut

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Yep, and due to the way they count time on a route, they effectively say it takes the same time to walk around a complex as it does to walk straight to the front door of a house.

Anything they can do to get unpaid labor, they will.

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u/Trollhydra Aug 30 '18

I always wondered how Amazon figured it's cheaper to use their delivery service rather then just use the special deal they cut with USPS.

Should have known it was extremely unfavorable payout conditions for the drivers.

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u/Aster_Yellow Aug 30 '18

Don't forget those drives pay $10,000 for the privilege of driving for Amazon.

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u/Trollhydra Aug 30 '18

Sounds great where do i sign up.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

Yeah, think about it. It needs to be cost friendly than USPS, and we're the cheapest out there. So where do they save? Labor.

It sucks because Amazon has some good jobs, and a lot of really really shitty ones.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

My fear is that Amazon is going to buy the postal service, cut all of our salaries to $12 an hour...Then everyone will talk about how smart Bezos is and how he made the company so incredibly profitable (by cutting out 500,000 middle class jobs).

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u/Trollhydra Sep 01 '18

Even if they manage to agree to privatize the post office, which is a huge clusterfuck in and of itself because pretty much no democrat wants to do it and republicans representing rural districts realize it's suicide, they will not be able to agree on the terms on how to privatize USPS. They'll be infighting on what to do about all the regulations that the USPS has like having to deliver to every address in the United States no matter how unprofitable, or all the regulations they face over how to handle mail.

The time for them to privatize the USPS came and went after the financial crash. USPS is the most popular government organization in the United States, USPS has also transitioned to parcel delivery pretty decently, and more and more people have realized the prefund bullshit is the reason why USPS had issues for a while, although declining first class mail did cause a blow to USPS. If they wanted to privatize it they missed their shot because the new generation of voters want to keep it around and USPS parcel delivery is gaining more profit every year.

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u/EvilTonyBlair Cat Petting CCA Aug 30 '18

Damn Amazon sucks.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Yep, they're shady as fuck in pretty much every way. Amazon does not give 2 shits about anyone.

They have a rampant problem with 3rd party sellers cheating the system by offering freebies to reviewers and they skirt the review rules by not "requiring" a review. The recipients of the free items still write reviews, they just leave off the part about getting the item for free. Before the review policy change, they were required to put that part.

They have a huge problem with counterfeit items that often get mixed in with their own stock due to their FBA comingling policy.

Then there's the treatment of USPS and other delivery companies.

Also, they have recently started offering coupons and discounts at checkout that don't show up on the product page to prevent sites like camelcamelcamel from being able to accurately track price history.

They're just super shady and I have drastically cut back on my Amazon purchases in the past few months and I canceled my Prime subscription altogether. It is rare that Amazon is actually the cheapest option these days anyway, I can often find the product cheaper on Google Express, eBay, Walmart.com, etc. so there's no reason to keep buying from Amazon.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

Oh wow I didn't know that. That's pretty fucked, especially for apartments. There should be something special written in the contract for apartments. Maybe if they're luckily that'll happen for them down the road, but doubt it.

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 30 '18

That doesn’t matter. It’s supposed to be at the door. Don’t work there if you aren’t going to do the job.

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u/WassonX81X Aug 30 '18

Don't you have some working to do for free right about now? Get outta here and make your bosses rich!

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 30 '18

You’re supposed to be on the clock...

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u/WassonX81X Aug 31 '18

I'm referring to the comment you replied to that says Amazon drivers are only paid by the stop and an apartment complex counts as one "stop" no matter how many packages they have for the building. They aren't paid by the hour.

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 31 '18

Then they shouldn’t do the job. If amazon is not paying their workers appropriately then people need to quit.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

They probably do quit lol.

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u/jasnel Carrier Aug 30 '18

This is why you want professional carriers delivering your mail/parcels. This is what privatization looks like.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

I mean, ups and FedEx are private and they don't do this, right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

From what I've heard, UPS union is stronger than the NALC right now. Meanwhile Amazon's unio....wait a minute

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Doesn't seem like a union problem as much as a corporate policy problem.

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u/Bigfrostynugs Sep 01 '18

This looks exactly like shit that gets pulled all the time at USPS. We're not so high and mighty.

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u/jasnel Carrier Sep 01 '18

Not high and mighty, I just do my job. You should try it sometime.

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u/Bigfrostynugs Sep 02 '18

Assume much?

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u/thisismesmiling Aug 30 '18

Err, have you seen what government postal service in this country looks like?

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u/domonx Aug 30 '18

Who would have thought that paying your "independent contractor" by the number of stops they do would inevitably make them take short cut to maximize their income?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

The office i use to work... its full usps and will do the same stuff

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u/Orson22 Aug 30 '18

Good luck, you made this monster, now deal with it.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 30 '18

Ahahah! Yeah screw the carrier, it's not like he has two hours of overtime to get to or anything. Let him just call his supervisor and inform them that he won't be making it to the overtime because he needs to do door delivery to these obnoxious apartment dwellers with shitty tiny mail boxes.

Whoever wrote that note in the middle can go play in traffic. I'd leave notices for them all!

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u/wddiver Aug 30 '18

These look like parcels left by Amazon contract drivers, not the postal service.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 30 '18

Ah, my misunderstanding.

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u/wddiver Aug 30 '18

Yeah, it's gotten confusing. So many carriers for Amazon now.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 30 '18

I haven't seen any amazon delivery drivers where I am.

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u/wddiver Aug 30 '18

They're not in every city, but they're expanding.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 30 '18

Honestly I wouldn't even be upset if they came to mine. I could use a lighter load.

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u/Voyager989 Forever Flexible Aug 30 '18

Just wait until they start cutting routes.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

It probably won't happen at mine. Unless you mean amazon sunday.

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u/PartyOfEleventySeven Aug 30 '18

3489s FOR EVERYONE!!!

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 30 '18

If you don’t want to take packages to the door, then leave notes for them to come pick it up. Don’t leave it in an unsecured place.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

Oh I never do. I do think it's annoying when I have to deliver to a place like that though with crappy little boxes. I don't leave stuff out to be stolen though, i'd feel bad.

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 31 '18

If it’s either that table or my door I’d prefer my door as my apartment has cameras in the hallway but not the entry as that isn’t necessary assuming those who go into the apartments use the entryway which there isn’t any other way, ya know?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

I hate amazon.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Sounds like a good opportunity for USPS (if we’re the ones delivering these for Amazon) to tell apartment management that they need to invest in parcel lockers....or the residents can come pick up their parcels at the post office

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u/up_and_at_em Aug 30 '18

My son recently moved, and one of the reasons he chose his apartment complex was because they have an office with a mailroom and someone who signs for everything. And although I try to make sure I don't send anything to arrive on a weekend, especially a Sunday, if it happens, there's always somebody there. And they have all kinds of security cameras everywhere.

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u/Mrdudemanguy Aug 31 '18

I doubt this place is that nice of a complex though. I haven't delivered to any nice complexes that have boxes like that.

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u/up_and_at_em Aug 31 '18

Not really. I'd say mid level? He moved to the Phoenix area, and it's costing him more than he thought. Maybe because they're remodeling? I don't know. I just know he could have got a 1 bedroom at another place same price as his studio , but it didn't have a mailroom. He gets a lot of packages.

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u/Kingmickez25 hazmat window clerk Aug 30 '18

Why is there mail in that little tub

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u/Clint_Swift Wave Magnet Aug 30 '18

outgoing, I'd assume

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u/KingOfTheP4s It fits, it ships Aug 30 '18

Christ, I'd never put outgoing in an unsecured bin

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u/TheHomerPimpson Rural Carrier Aug 30 '18

Bet it's all throwback.

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u/johnnyhouston87 Aug 30 '18

Yeah mark up mail

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u/shiningdizzy Aug 30 '18

Same in my building. Smh. My package was stolen because of this.

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u/joe-foshow Aug 30 '18

Amazon doesn’t care they will send you another package 1 day shipping for free. One package to their billions of profit is nothing.

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u/Jcarter1632 Aug 30 '18

Amazon has become a monster. It is becoming the largest Monopoly America has ever seen. I try whenever I can to buy from the smaller online stores.

For instance when I was phone shopping, B&H ended up having a sale for $60 off the phone I wanted. The second they went on sale, Amazon instantly beat their price by 4¢. Fuck Amazon

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u/domonx Aug 30 '18

A lot of the time I find random products that amazon really can't compete on price because it's either too random or too "low tech" for them to focus on.

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u/Jcarter1632 Aug 30 '18

Yeah, eventually they will have everything. They have algorithms that change prices on their products based off your search history, social media etc. They have shopping prices (which are lower) and then buying prices (higher). They know exactly when they have you backed into a corner and you need something. It sounds crazy, but it's real.

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u/joe-foshow Aug 30 '18

Honestly, I love Amazon as a consumer but hate delivering for them. Lol. Usps would be a nicer job without them.

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u/aintsuperstitious Retired Clerk - 27 Years Aug 30 '18

Not really. I worked in distribution when Amazon only sold books. USPS work sucked then, too. Amazon only adds more people to the suckage.

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u/Orson22 Aug 30 '18

I avoid amazon too, but sometimes when I buy from ebay it comes in an Amazon packet.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Amazon is in no way a monopoly. 99.9% of the items sold on amazon can also be purchased from their competitors.

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u/mickey_magnum Aug 30 '18

I don't think is only Amazon that does that. I've had Fedex packages left at he door all the time

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u/Milondex Aug 30 '18

It's not just Amazon, there is regular mail in that basket.

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u/BrandonNeider Aug 30 '18

Funny enough a while back my UPS Driver changed and he was dumping packages at my side door next to my garage or literally my garage door. So I made a print out that said UPS Please deliver at front door. He saw it once and it's at the front door. I left the note up in-case of substitutes and other companies.

USPS has a new driver, guy looks at the sign (Cameras) and drops the package a few times now. I guess cause he just sees the UPS logo it doesn't qualify for him. I laugh about it, too lazy to change the print out again.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

I’m probably one of the very few usps cca’s who actually takes even a weightless spur, right to the door, 15 stories up. Hell if someone steals it, not my problem. That’s how they want it. “Do ya fuckin jobs” - Soprano

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u/rhahalo Aug 30 '18

If it's a weightless spr why wouldn't you put it in the mail box?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Specifically on Sundays, because that’s what amazon wants. If it blows away, all well, that’s what you wanted me to do.

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u/rhahalo Aug 30 '18

Honestly can't really fault you there Sunday deliveries is bull I hated that as a CCA.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Right? It’s like fu*k the customers package? I was putting them in the box/cbu for a while until I got reamed about it. No porch cover and it’s gonna rain? Still leave it at the door lol. Postal logic.

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u/toshah Aug 30 '18

We still use the cbus on Sundays. I don't use the turn by turn anymore but when I did it would bring me to the cbu, not the house. Guess it depends on the office.

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u/Vandredd Aug 30 '18

I'm glad I don't live in a city. That's a nightmare

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 30 '18

It is your job to take it to the door tho :/

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u/SpookyActionSix I have a pulse Aug 30 '18

The USPS should start mandating that regulars have to deliver every amazon parcel to the door just as they do CCAs on Sundays. What makes a Sunday delivery parcel any more special than any other day?

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u/Nelonius_Monk Aug 30 '18

Fuuuuuuuuck that.

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u/Orson22 Aug 30 '18

Why would the USPS push for centralized delivery and then all of a sudden do the exact opposite of that.

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u/SpookyActionSix I have a pulse Aug 31 '18

The post office is where logic goes to die a slow and painful death.

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u/jennyfurhh Aug 30 '18

What? All my packages are brought to my door by USPS whether a CCA or regular. Same with others. Same with my boyfriend who is the regular taking them to the door.

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u/scott81425 Aug 30 '18

I think what they mean is on Sundays all parcels are supposed to go to the door, not be left in mailboxes or parcel lockers. Even the little padded envelope things are supposed to go to the door.