r/VaushV Jan 20 '25

Politics Musk is fucking sieg heiling now apparently

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u/SlickWilly060 Jan 20 '25

And he can't even do it in an impressive way

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u/ItalianBall Jan 20 '25

How does he look so lame and tryhard every time he does something?

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u/Inevitable-Ear-3189 Jan 20 '25

It's a core personality trait, perhaps his only one.

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u/TheGoverness1998 Alden's Theorist šŸ§  Jan 20 '25

Well, he is the man that cheated in a video game to make himself look infinitely more competent than he actually was.

The only "quality" this man has is that he's unfathomably rich.

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u/Psalmbodyoncetoldme Jan 20 '25

Dude didnā€™t even need to be a ā€œpro-level mlg gamerā€. Ā In fact if he just showed a skill level that was mediocre but plausible and said heā€™s busy but games in his off time, that could even be endearing. Ā He has to look the best at everything, which makes him look good at nothing. Ā It would be funny if he werenā€™t one of the most powerful men in the world. Ā (It does make it more pathetic though.)

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u/ReddestForman Jan 21 '25

Seriously. If I was a billionaire oligarch who wanted to be liked by gamers, I'd load up something I wanted to play and have fun even if I sucked, while funding some game studios with "here's a big budget. Make good art" as a directive.

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u/Aelia_M Jan 21 '25

Ezra Miller: Whatā€™s your stupid power?

Elon Musk: Iā€™m a nepo rich

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u/Windk86 Jan 20 '25

because he is a follower, he just have lots of money

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u/RaiJolt2 Jan 21 '25

It looked like a child fumbling to imitate its idols

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u/logicom Jan 20 '25

He knows what he did. He did it just badly enough for plausible deniability.

He's going to pretend to be shocked at the media for making such a "wild" accusation.

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 20 '25

I wonder what the fuck this was supposed to be if not the Nazi salute. Because those are very unique motions. "Hey bro, it's just the Roman salute, nothing to see here"?

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u/ReddestForman Jan 21 '25

I'm pretty sure the Roman salute was done with a closed fist, I may be mistaken.

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u/tunafish91 Jan 21 '25

Nah open palm just like the nazi salute (nazi salute was based on it). Except the arm didn't stretch above the chest like the nazi salute

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u/CUMLOVINGBOISLUT Jan 21 '25

it doesn't really matter, were not in rome and theres no romans but theres plenty of nazis

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u/tunafish91 Jan 21 '25

I know. Someone was just asking what the difference between the salutes are so I was answering

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u/ReddestForman Jan 22 '25

I mean, less asking and more I know there was enough of a difference between the two it'd be a dumb way to wrigglenout of it.

But then, Nazis seldom care about the believability of their bullshit.

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 21 '25

There isn't any good evidence that the Roman salute was real at all.

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u/EmperorMrKitty Jan 20 '25

Saw a prominent Nazi on Twitter say ā€œhe even makes something cool look gay and autisticā€

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u/SlickWilly060 Jan 20 '25

The Nazi was kinda right

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u/HeidelbergianYehZiq1 Jan 20 '25

How the fuck can you end up a heil cuck? šŸ™„

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u/Itz_Hen Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 20 '25

I'm not American, but both my grandparents gave life and limb to fight the occupation of my home country. This upsets me more than anything I have seen in a long time

They did not sacrifice their lives just for musk to stand there and do the sloppiest, soyest Nazi salute

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u/Safrel Jan 20 '25

My grandpop was a Nazi youth too, and the one thing I am most confident in doing as a result of this is to identify Nazis.

This is it.

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u/Itz_Hen Jan 20 '25

My family has a long history of hating Nazis, and that tradition is continuing through me

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u/Uulugus Outer Wilds is hecking BASED. Jan 21 '25

Based Hen based Hen based Hen

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u/Itz_Hen Jan 21 '25

No you're the based one!

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u/Uulugus Outer Wilds is hecking BASED. Jan 21 '25

Oh Hen, you flatterer you~

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u/Itz_Hen Jan 21 '25

What can I say eh. Were all based, and nazi haters here

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u/ReddestForman Jan 21 '25

My oma was in the Hitler youth for girls.

Her father was a bartender who was also drinking buddies with Goering, a name that rather fittingly can not be said without a contemptuous sneer.

There were pictures of him getting some trophy or whatever from Goering and a few other names, them palling around, and other stuff.

When he finally died, after the funeral service, she drove home, took all that shit out of the attic, and burned it before her brother could get at it. Because he wanted to keep it.

She wasn't a perfect woman by any stretch. She used to slap the shit out of my mother for walking into the room at a bad time. But she made damn sure her kids and grandkids knew what an evil regime and twisted ideology it was.

She'd be rolling in her grave if she knew what was happening.

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u/Safrel Jan 21 '25

My Oma had a similar struggle of living with someone in the Youth. Opa never really got over the death of his older brother, who was a pilot in the Luftwaffe. She'd always whisper in hushed tones about the atrocities she had to experience as a volksdeutsch girl who was displaced because of Nazi evils.

The trauma of these events was never really resolved in their lives, and I still feel the effects to this day.

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u/Bokuja Jan 22 '25

My grandfather was mostly an emotionally abusive PoS (if my dad's stories are anything to go by) and he was likely dealing with the aftermath of the war. He was part of a Dutch armed civilian resistance battalion that "visited" Nazi collaborators.

My father was never quite able to tell me what grandpa actually did during those times, he doesn't quite know himself. Silent generation and all that. But he doesn't doubt for a second that grandpa killed a person.....or several. He only thing my dad DOES know for sure is that grandpa despised Germans.

Even such a clearly troubled and not well adjusted individual was able to determine that the Nazi's were (and are) scum.

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u/Pashe14 Jan 21 '25

What did you think of barron's look?

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u/elykl12 Jan 21 '25

Like an anemic freshmen polisci student

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u/Safrel Jan 21 '25

Presentable for the function I guess, but otherwise no thoughts.

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u/ClearDark19 Jan 21 '25

We need to recruit a bunch of Lt. Aldo Raine(s) and Sgt. Donny Donowitzes.

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u/ZillaSlayer54 Jan 20 '25

Capitalism and Racism are inextricably linked, so it makes perfect sense that the World"s Richest Man would be a White Supremacist.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

Indeed, modern racism was a distinct invention of capitalism.

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u/ikinone Jan 20 '25

Indeed, modern racism was a distinct invention of capitalism.

Whereas 'good old racism' was a product of...?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

The modern construct of race was invented to justify slavery and colonization. Prior to 1492, humans didnā€™t think in terms of white/black/brown/etc. Tribalism always existed, but it was very different than today.

And certainly white supremacy wasnā€™t a thing, considering that up until 500 years ago Europe was a backwater while civilization thrived in the Islamic world and in Asia.

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u/AwfulUsername123 Jan 21 '25

Black skin was first explicitly linked to slavery in the Middle East in the seventh century. Have you ever heard of the curse of Ham?

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u/RhythmOfMyMind Jan 21 '25

It was way more complex than that. Slaves were preferred on the basis of religion, skills and other factors - not just skin color.

It was not this unanimous thing at that time that race was the #1 determining thing that made someone a slave. Far from it. It was maybe something that was considered a little bit along with a bunch of other stuff.

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u/AwfulUsername123 Jan 21 '25

Regardless of how complex Middle Eastern slavery was, the curse of Ham story directly links black skin to slavery.

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25

The modern construct of race was invented to justify slavery and colonization.

I have no doubt that many layers have been added to racism since humans existed.

Prior to 1492, humans didnā€™t think in terms of white/black/brown/etc.

Yeah, I'm gonna call nonsense on that one.

Tribalism always existed, but it was very different than today.

Yes, tribalism has always existed. Precisely. And yes, the world is always changing.

And certainly white supremacy wasnā€™t a thing

xyz supremacy is a summary of every bit of tribalism. Essentially it boils down to 'our group is better than yours', and that has existed since before humans existed.

Trying to pin this on capitalism is laughably stupid.

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u/IbrahIbrah Jan 21 '25

Europe was a backwater 500 years ago? What kind of hotepery is this? How a backwater continent could hold up against the Ottomans invasion?

Europe was on par with the rest of the world.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Relatively speaking Europe was well behind China and the Islamic world in terms of science and technology. It was also behind in terms of literacy. Militarily speaking, it was mere chance that the continent wasnā€™t over run by the Mongol empire, owing its luck to the timely death of one of the Khans (forgot which one).

500 years is an estimation and on the lower bound. By that time they were rising particularly the Spanish empire. But the point still stands

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u/IbrahIbrah Jan 21 '25

Europe was always a major player and was never "back water", from the Antiquity to the Modern Era. The intellectual and cultural influence was a two-way street between the Muslim world and Europe, and I say that as a Muslim. It's not a backwater continent that could wage the crusades for centuries and conquers the heart of the Muslim world (Jerusalem).

500 years ago we're speaking about the peak of the Renaissance movement, it's the time of Galileo. The achievement of the muslim empires in term of scientific advancement are huge and surpassed Europe during the middle age, but that don't make Europe a back water continent, it's an hyperbolic statement.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

All of your examples are military based. Iā€™m speaking in terms of overall economic and human development. Things like public health, literacy, urban development, education, etc. Thereā€™s a reason Europe referred to it as a ā€œdark ageā€, in many ways European civilization regressed after the decline of the Roman Empire and didnā€™t fully rebound until the period beginning European colonization. After that, Europe leapfrogged the rest of the world.

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u/IbrahIbrah Jan 21 '25

The caracterizacion of the middle age as a "dark age' has now been totally rebuked by most historians. It was a Renaissance myth.

Galileo is not a military figure, neither is Leonardo Di Vinci or Copernicus. All major scientific figures of mankind who were born in Europe more than 500 years ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

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u/kylepo Jan 21 '25

born in Europe more than 500 years ago.

Galileo was born 464 years ago...

And, regardless, all of the people you list were born either during or after the Renaissance.

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u/After-Trifle-1437 Jan 20 '25

I'd suggest becoming a bit more educated on marxism and critical theory.

Maybe then you can come back and understand the point being made.

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u/ikinone Jan 20 '25

Real convincing argument, well done.

I guess you believe in astrology and flat earth theory too. No? Well obviously you simply didn't read enough about them.

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Oh no, am I being targeted by a cult now?

'Shinigami eyes' is sure an intimidating name. Please. Have mercy.

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u/BillionaireBuster93 Jan 21 '25

What do you like about Vaush?

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Jan 21 '25

Capitalism requires the subjugation of both man and nature. Racism is one of the most effective methods for subjugating man. Read a book maybe

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25

Capitalism requires the subjugation of both man and nature.

Human existence requires the 'subjugation of both man and nature'. That's a vague and useless criticism

Read a book maybe

An equally vague insult. Is that all it takes for you to feel superior?

This vague notion of some sort of socialist utopia is so childish.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Utopia is a book written by Sir Thomas More, a book you should probably read. The word ā€œUtopiaā€ is ironic because it means ā€œno placeā€. Only naive fools think that we can achieve utopia, even with socialism. I certainly never claimed utopia was in reach.

And no, human existence actually doesnā€™t require the subjugation of man and nature. You canā€™t imagine any other way to exist because all you have ever known is capitalism. Hence why I said you should read a book.

I donā€™t do it to feel superior. Iā€™m tired of dealing with people who are unaware of their own ignorance

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25

Utopia is a book written by Sir Thomas More, a book you should probably read. The word ā€œUtopiaā€ is ironic because it means ā€œno placeā€.

Wow, you sure are smart! I can't believe you have time to be on reddit becasue the ladies must be all over you.

And no, human existence actually doesnā€™t require the subjugation of man and nature.

Oh you're right. I'm sure people totally got on before capitalism existed. No human or bit of nature was subjugated at all. Yep.

I donā€™t do it to feel superior.

Oh yeah, you seem real humble. Not like a member of a cult at all, nope.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

i canā€™t believe you have time to be on reddit because the ladies must be all over you!

Talk about childish insults lmao, I was just giving you a book recommendation because you were upset with how ā€œvagueā€ I was.

no subjugation before capitalism

I never said it didnā€™t happen I just said it isnā€™t necessary. Reading comprehension gets better with practice, another reason you should read books.

Look man, Iā€™m not about to sit here and go over all of human civilizations history with you. Thats why I told you to read a book. If you want to stay ignorant, go ahead.

Everything is temporary, including capitalism. Have a life.

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25

I was just giving you a book recommendation

With an implicit assumption I have not read it, much like the other slew of book 'recommendations' this circlejerk cult seems to use as a lazy method of condescension.

I never said it didnā€™t happen I just said it isnā€™t necessary.

It isn't necessary in capitalism, either. The argument that wannabe marxists use is that it is of benefit to capitalism to segregate the workers and drive conflict. That is purely speculative, and there's no reason it should be necessary.

Look man, Iā€™m not about to sit here and go over all of human civilizations history with you.

As if you know it to begin with.

If you want to stay ignorant, go ahead.

The ignorance lies with the people who cannot engage with a point, only being able to spout 'read a book' incessantly.

Everything is temporary, including capitalism.

What a brilliantly vague deepity. Sounds like you're trying to tell yourself that one day a socialist utopia will arise, and all wrongs will be righted.

Have a life.

Yawn, back to the vague condescension, I see. Being passive aggressive is just pathetic, really.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Jan 21 '25

passive aggressive is pathetic

Better than being sarcastic šŸ˜‚

it isnā€™t necessary in capitalism either

Really? Because you just spent several comments arguing that human existence requires subjugation, which would include capitalism.

Iā€™m outta here.

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u/ikinone Jan 21 '25

Better than being sarcastic

Really? I'd much rather be sarcastic. Each to their own, I guess. Glad you implicitly admitted it at least.

Really? Because you just spent several comments arguing that human existence requires subjugation, which would include capitalism.

I made a single tong in cheek response about it, reflecting the nonsense claim that capitalism requires it.

If you actually believe such logic, rather than just having heard someone else say it is true, you should be able to explain why capitalism requires subjugation.

Yet you can't and the moment the logic comes up, you bail. You know it's nonsense, but you'll keep religiously following such a claim anyway.

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u/Njabachi Jan 20 '25

The photos don't do it justice, in motion that dude is definetly doing a seig heil.

Trump's gonna have to tell him to "stand back and stand by" lest his idiot voters (donors more importantly) start to raise a stink.

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u/PlayingtheDrums Jan 20 '25

The photos don't do it justice, in motion that dude is definetly doing a seig heil.

False!

He did two of em.

Sorry.

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u/HimbologistPhD Jan 21 '25

Yeah lol this video cuts but he turns around and does the exact same thing for anyone who missed it lmao

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u/UnholyDr0w Jan 21 '25

I doubt donors will care, they didnā€™t seem to mind any of the other shit he did

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u/Ok_Star_4136 Anti-Tankie Jan 20 '25

And he thinks he fooled all of us this whole time. No he fucking didn't. This is a surprise to no one, not even the little Hitlerites on the right who have been fangirling him all this time. This is precisely what we were warning against. Thanks for the confirmation, but I didn't really need it.

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u/PlayingtheDrums Jan 20 '25

He did fool some, lots of shocked reactions to this online. For some reason.

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u/Dicky_Penisburg Jan 20 '25

Then lots of people are dumb as fucking shit.

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u/Pyrimo Jan 20 '25

The fact this surprises anyone is the real curveball. Stop giving the benefit of the doubt, a ton of people really are just even more stupid than you think.

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u/Journeyman42 Jan 20 '25

Time to pull out the classic George Carlin quote "Think of how dumb the average person is, then realize that half of society is dumber than that"

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u/Prestigious_Slice709 Jan 20 '25

Liberals who thought that capitalism and fascism donā€˜t go hand in hand

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u/vanon3256 Jan 20 '25

The brazenness is kinda shocking.

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u/No_Solution_2864 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

A lot of good people donā€™t follow things online, and just assume that he is an intelligent man who is trying to popularize EVs and explore space

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u/anroroco Jan 21 '25

a lot of good people better step up and follow things then.

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u/Dave_Is_Useless Jan 20 '25

I know it was going to be bad, but openly doing the Hitler salute is crazy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

But muh 1st Amendment

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u/Uriah_Blacke Jan 20 '25

Theyā€™re all such losers. Theyā€™re terrifying and tyrannical but letā€™s not forget how lame they are. Did he even practice it in the mirror first? Does he think itā€™s not as obvious if it looks like he had a stroke halfway through?

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u/PlayingtheDrums Jan 20 '25

It's not like this is some Alpha looking motherfucker though: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler

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u/bigshotdontlookee Jan 20 '25

"Now I am going to murder every woman who swiped left on tinder" vibes.

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u/These-Base6799 Jan 20 '25

To be fair to Heinrich Himmer (ffs, i can't believe i am saying that ... 2025 suuuuuuuucks) he was a competent administrato, a talented speaker and a loving father. So Elon Musk is already worse than Heinrich Himmler.

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding SS leader heinrich himmler. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to him".

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u/Cancer85pl Jan 20 '25

Unless "it" is a live grenade

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u/PlayingtheDrums Jan 20 '25

Nah, he was very corrupt, typical cynical businessman, chickenpooptrader was his occupation before the murders.

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u/Cancer85pl Jan 20 '25

He looks like Timmy from SouthPark attempting a back flip.

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u/funded_by_soros Jan 20 '25

A nazi? Sieg heiling? That's crazy!

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u/flimflammerish Jan 20 '25

A white South African? Who would have guessed!

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u/Cancer85pl Jan 20 '25

Old habits die hard

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u/Proud_Fox_684 Jan 20 '25

Is this real or AI generated? Can't tell these days.

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u/rumrumrung Jan 20 '25

itā€™s real. saw it live.

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u/Dependent-Entrance10 Jan 20 '25

That definitely tracks, Elon Musk is so far right that he even manages to put off Nigel Farage of all people...

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

Is there a link or source? My husband is 100% convinced it's AI but I can totally see EM doing this

ETA: Nevermind, Google is my friend.

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

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u/Ihasknees936 Jan 20 '25

Of course the top comment is someone trying to correct the OP by saying that it's "the Romans salute" like that makes any difference.

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u/Rico_Rebelde Jan 20 '25

It rings just as hollow as people defending swastikas by pointing out they were used as religious symbols first.

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 20 '25

"It's not the Hakenkreuz, it's just a swastika, it's totally normal for me to get a tattoo of it on my forehead, so much for the tolerant left!"

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u/Thrilalia Jan 20 '25

What makes these people even more stupid is that they don't even realise the Romans never did such a salute.

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u/alpacinohairline AOC Stan Jan 20 '25

Elon was promoting antisemetic great replacement theory pages on twitter so this tracks with his character.

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u/evanescent_evanna Jan 20 '25

Fret not, I was informed by Very Reliable Sourcesā„¢ that this was totally not intentional, despite what all of our lying eyes saw.

Fuck that Nazi scumbag.

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u/Unlucky-Bumblebee-96 Jan 20 '25

an ā€œodd-lookingā€ gestureā€¦ the ā€œodd-lookingā€ salute, noting its unusual natureā€¦. a ā€œRoman salute,ā€ ā€¦. the gesture was misinterpreted. They argued that he was simply excited and extending his hand to the crowd.

- coverage from nz news website Stuff :https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360554496/watch-elon-musks-odd-looking-salute-trump-inauguration-celebrations

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u/OldTrafford25 Jan 20 '25

Nazi scum

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

B.J. Blazkowicz voice

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u/GarlicThread Jan 20 '25

I was going with Aldo Raine but that works too.

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u/aphronicolette13 Jan 20 '25

Get guns or your leftist asses are going to camps

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u/Inevitable-Ear-3189 Jan 20 '25

Jim Carrey spitting out drink

OH COME ON!

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u/Hagfishsaurus Jan 20 '25

Whats the conservative excuse for this?

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

"he was just dabbing bro" and "it's actually a roman salute not a nazi salute, it's totally different" are the ones I've seen so far

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u/Ok-Location3254 Jan 20 '25

The best I've read was that it was some "autistic spasm" or tic which Elon couldn't control. Twice.

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u/HST87 Jan 20 '25

That one's actually the most likely. Except for the infinitely more likely one that it's just, you know, a sieg heil. The man's been a public figure for like 15 or so years, one would think had this been a tic we'd have seen something like it in the past.

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u/Galvy_01ITA Jan 20 '25

I've seen "he immediately after says Ā«I give my heart to youĀ», so it's a weird way to convey that by a man with Asperger's"

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

As someone who has autism I've never accidentally made a nazi salute but that might just be me idk

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u/Galvy_01ITA Jan 20 '25

It's surely you, I'm sure all autistic people are unwitting Nazis /s

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

I am asspie and I once flipped someone the bird when I wanted to do a thumbs up.

(this was a sieg heil though)

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u/CommercialOrganic573 Jan 20 '25

Rconservative just deleted the thread about it

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

So much for free speech

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u/Rico_Rebelde Jan 20 '25

They don't need to excuse it, they either don't care or think nazis were good. Everyone who had a problem with Nazism left the Republican party long ago

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u/GarlicThread Jan 20 '25

He's just dabbing on the woke mind virus or some shit.

Actually, no excuse. They agree with it. Mask off.

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u/Stargazer1919 Jaded doomer Jan 21 '25

Their response will boil down to this:

"He didn't do that. And if he did, it was a joke. And if it wasn't a joke, he must be right to do that."

It's just a version of the narcissists prayer.

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u/Stargazer1919 Jaded doomer Jan 21 '25

The Hivemind will have their talking points within 48 hours.

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u/aphronicolette13 Jan 20 '25

He really can't do anything right

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u/Mesa17 Jan 20 '25

And media is just calling this a "strange gesture." Wow, we are beginning the Elon administration with massive understatements!

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u/SuperStingray Jan 20 '25

Obviously he brain farted and meant to do a dab. /jk

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u/j0j0-m0j0 Jan 20 '25

Best case scenario is that he meant to do something else and as usual he fucked it up.

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u/OffOption Jan 20 '25

... I had family who were in the resistance. One was shot by the nazi occupiers.

Its... hard to put into words, what I feel in this very moment. And it would most likely end up as frothing tyrades.

So I'll just say this instead... it is morally good, to want this man to suffer. Take that for what you will.

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u/PW0110 Jan 21 '25

Dude I had cancer all throughout highschool and Iā€™m in no way comparing the two (literally at all ) but like I donā€™t even know what I feel right now either ā€¦my sanity is shattering right now trying to reconcile beating death just to be put in a camp not even a decade later

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u/Stargazer1919 Jaded doomer Jan 21 '25

Fuck cancer. Internet hugs if you want them.

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u/PW0110 Jan 21 '25

Dude I had cancer all throughout highschool and Iā€™m in no way comparing the two (literally at all ) but like I donā€™t even know what I feel right now either ā€¦my sanity is shattering right now trying to reconcile beating death just to be put in a camp not even a decade later. I totally relate the ā€¦ā€wtf wtf wtf wtfā€ feeling

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u/13lackjack Bidenist-Leninist Maoist Jan 20 '25

As clear as day and people will deny this or say it was something else

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u/PW0110 Jan 21 '25

ā€The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earthā€™s centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to Oā€™Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote: Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.ā€

ā€”George Orwell, 1984

Nothing perfectly encapsulates our situation right now than this quote. I havenā€™t been able to stop thinking about it since

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u/CuriousA1 Jan 20 '25

Negative aura

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u/ShadowClaw765 Jan 20 '25

Sieg Heil so ass that Hitler wouldā€™ve executed him for fucking it up so bad.

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u/TallerThanTale Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

I'm going to throw out there that Musk's insistence on IDing as Asperger's specifically has Nazi origins. Asperger's was the classification for people who the Nazi's considered useful to society, whereas other autistics went straight to the ovens.

Edited a typo

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u/netn10 Jan 20 '25

I'm not an American, I have my brand of f*cism in my country (yes, it's Israel, trying relentlessly to move)...

And I'm fcking ashamed. For humanity, for the Americans, for everything.

Take this in a good way but I hope China wins and whip the USA's a$$. What an undeserving country.

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u/meltingfaces10 Jan 20 '25

You underestimate how bad things can get if you legitimately think that China under its current government would be preferable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

Yeah... you see, you say that, but the US has been at war for like 97% of its brief history.Ā 

All the US does is invade, destabilise and destroy countries all over the world.

How many fascist groups has it been funding? How many legitimate governments has it coup'd?

It's currently funding a genocide in Palestine.

Fuck the US, honestly.

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u/netn10 Jan 20 '25

China is the lesser evil but I'm willing to hear your take.

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u/meltingfaces10 Jan 20 '25

Only in the sense that China is less powerful than the US. China is fascist and has been for a long time.

I don't understand this idea in some left circles that China, and specifically the CCP is good, or better than the US.

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u/netn10 Jan 20 '25

China is less powerful than the US... for now. Let's see in a year. My bet is that Trump and Elon are going to change that very soon.

China is not a good country. The CCP is very bad. You wonā€™t hear me praise them, at all, but when I look at my country, I can draw a straight line between American intervention and everything that has happened to the Palestinians and Israelis since 1948. However, I can't draw a damning line between China and Israel, or China and any other country that would be a fraction of what America is doing right now.
That's all. We'll see.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

All the murikans seething, foaming at the mouth over what you're saying.

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u/bthest Jan 21 '25

Both Chinese and US regimes need to be forced feet first into a wood chipper. I don't want either of them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '25

It's crazy how people (including Vaush) keep saying shit like "if the US falls, worse actors like Russia and China will take power."

Realistically, Russia is broke and after pissing away its military in Ukraine, it couldn't even go toe to toe with France these days.Ā 

And China? China's been around for far longer than the US has and unlike the US, it's main export is not war.

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u/No-Mine-8298 Jan 20 '25

We going to need a lot more antifa super soldiers

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u/Ruffled_Ferret Jan 20 '25

Hey now, you have to let the clip play out to get the full context!

does it a second time

The hell are you doing, Elon.

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u/MikuLuna444 Jan 20 '25

"But it's Elon/Trump/any Republican/Republican Talking head, it's obviously a joke!"

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u/Insane_Artist Jan 20 '25

They are definitely going to start Sieg Heiling initially "ironically" to stick it to the libs calling them Nazis, then eventually they will just start using it unironically and forget all about their thin rationalizations because Hitler is actually based or something when you look into it.

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u/MeverMow Jan 21 '25

This is the direction it will go down. Weā€™re about a week or two away from Fox and Friends openly discussing that Hitler just had MAGA energy for Germany. Fucking sad man

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u/soufboundpachyderm Jan 20 '25

God just put me in a room alone with this man for 10 minutes. Fucking Nazi piece of shit

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u/Hamokk Silly little socialist witch Jan 20 '25

Oh boy. Captain Ketamine looks like a 5 year-old trying to do the salute in front of daddy for the first time.

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u/My_Phenotype_Is_Ugly Jan 21 '25

Like nazis he loves drug. And not in a fun way, it's because he's a loser.

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u/PW0110 Jan 21 '25

I did not survive fucking cancer , go through chemo all throughout high school , be poor af thrown back into a world with chronic pain from treatment damage, just to FUCKING DIE TO NAZIS WHO CANā€™T EVEN DO THEIR OWN FUCKING SALUTE

Like I did not survive death to be put in a camp dude I cannot process this shit fast enough I donā€™t even know what to do

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u/type102 Jan 20 '25

I should have known that Biden couldn't get rid of the Nazi's when he said that he was gonna cure cancer (in hindsight that should have been a much bigger warning sign as to his mental state).

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u/fran141516 Jan 20 '25

Not that surprising I guess but I didnt expect it in day 1

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u/Secure-Containment-1 Jan 20 '25

I want you all to know that thereā€™s a fundamental sickness in this country that we allowed someone to give the salute of the enemy in our very own house and wasnā€™t immediately thrown out for doing so.

I thought that was a very particular point of pride in Americaā€™s history, so much so we tell our children about it - that we killed fuckinā€™ Nazis.

Guess itā€™s not that important anymore.

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u/nebbie13 Jan 20 '25

Yeah, it was pretty easy to see that Elon was deep in the K hole today.

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u/MochaLibro_Latte Jan 21 '25

It's half/half for Musk. He did that because he thinks it's going to be "teehee" funny for his fellow Kekius Maximus fanatic like it's early to mid-2010s peak of 4chan omgg. To shock the "liberal, woke, yada yada" America, and it's based on the fact he genuinely does believe in white supremacy but white supremacy including riches and only that.

With that said, dumbass did it like he's trying shock people as a middle schooler.

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u/nebulasik Jan 21 '25

fucking cringe

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u/nsfwaccount3209 Jan 20 '25

He did it like that so he can claim later he was just waving to the crowd and Trump.

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u/Sludgycartoon_30 Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Mudolf Mitler šŸ’€

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u/Zeyode Jan 20 '25

Is anyone really surprised?

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u/ThePatchedVest Jan 21 '25

"I was just throwing my heart to the audience! I didn't even say anything Nazi-esque! Look at all these wild leftist media so desperate for controversy that they'd say I was doing a nazi salute!" *wink wink, nudge, nudge*

God. I can't stand Elon, he's such an insufferable tool.

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u/Dull-Satisfaction969 Jan 21 '25

And somehow he manages to make it look more pathetic than the original Nazis

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u/Thatnewwavefan Jan 21 '25

Ironic that my great grandparents left germany and went to the us to get away from nazis and now i am leaving the us to get away from nazis

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u/TheFurthestMoose Jan 21 '25

I have to wonder what median voters will think about this if it ever reaches their news feeds, especially old veterans.

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u/alex7stringed Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

This is fucking infuriating. The Nazis have come out loud proud again. Itā€™s time for us Communists to organize and proudly proclaim: Yes we are Communists, yes we want revolution and yes we will crush every fascist that crosses our path. Workers of the world unite!

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u/SgathTriallair Jan 21 '25

The absolute worst part of this is that this is day one. This is before they have consolidated a power base, before they have cowed the media into submission, and before they have launched bogus investigations against their enemies to immediate the people into silence.

This is what they are doing BEFORE they have gotten enough power to insulate them from blowback.

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u/adorbiliusKermode Jan 21 '25

This just in; worlds richest man buys off the rack jackets

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u/Ironfields š”‡š”„ā„œš”Ž š”šš”’š”Žš”ˆ Jan 21 '25

Least racist South African:

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u/laflux Jan 21 '25

Lol, didn't you guys fight these pricks in the 1940's šŸ˜…

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u/lordbuckethethird Jan 21 '25

One side of my family went overseas to fight nazis while the Jewish side of my family came to the us to escape them. Nearly two generations of my family were killed in the holocaust so to see it come home isnā€™t even enraging or saddening anymore itā€™s just expected, Iā€™m seriously considering arming myself now if all this is just day one.

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u/Lost_In_Detroit Jan 21 '25

This is now officially the bad place

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u/nilslorand Jan 21 '25

man and he even sucks at Sieg Heiling, there is literally nothing Elon can do that he is good at

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u/VivianVortex Jan 26 '25

"Um, akchually you can see he put his hand on his chest, and there was no official Nazi handbook stating that the salute needed to be done this way. He's really just saying that he puts his heart out to all the Nazis, not that he is one."

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u/No-Account-9642 Feb 04 '25

I piss on his mother

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u/Flibbernodgets Jan 21 '25

He tried to dab and missed, he's not a Nazi he's just cringe.

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u/rakazet Jan 20 '25

This looks AI generated LMAO

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u/mysteryurik Jan 20 '25

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u/rakazet Jan 20 '25

I know, but it looks like one. He looks so awkward.

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u/PlayingtheDrums Jan 20 '25

In a couple years we'll find out Elon died in 2010 and his entire existence is AI generated.

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u/worst_case_ontario- Jan 20 '25

Understandable. Elon Musk does look ai generated.

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u/DWAlaska Jan 20 '25

It happened live

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 20 '25

You look AI generated LMAO

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u/eli4s20 Jan 20 '25

doing a communist salute? das crazy

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 20 '25

You should indicate your sarcasm more clearly. It was sarcasm, right?

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u/eli4s20 Jan 21 '25

of course it wasā€¦ god i hate reddit man.

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u/Prosthemadera Jan 21 '25

Communication goes both ways.

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u/eli4s20 Jan 21 '25

true.

(Disclaimer: this comment is neither satire, sarcasm nor irony. it is also not meant to be condescending or mean in any way. the poster is merely agreeing with the comment he is responding to. a sarcastic, ironic or satirical comment would be marked with ā€ž/sā€œ to give any reader the ability to instantly comprehend itā€™s meaning without having to think about the written statement for more than 2 (two) seconds)

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u/Simone_Galoppi07 Jan 21 '25

The best way to be sarcastic is use the /s at the end.

I understand you wanted to be sarcastic but it can easily can be misunderstood with text.