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u/Bony_Blair Feb 28 '25
Zelensky is here representing the Ukrainian people, and Trump and Vance are demanding he (and they) publicly grovel at their feet. They have no concept of what Ukraine has gone through, it's all about feeding their fat egos.
Quite possibly the most shameful moment in the history of American diplomacy.
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u/Aleenion Feb 28 '25
It's not that they have no concept, they've seen the reports, they just don't care. They see the helpless masses being massacred by a fascist empire, and all they see is opportunities to get a cut for themselves.
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u/RaiJolt2 Feb 28 '25
I checked the conservative subs and they kept talking about how Zelenskyy was “ungrateful”.
Like what is Zelenskyy supposed to do? Give up vital resources to one of the resource richest nations on earth while fighting a war against said nation’s longstanding enemy?
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u/JollyCompetition5272 Mar 01 '25
I cringed so hard when MTG's boyfriend asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit, and did he own one. Implying he didn't respect the office. At least he gave back the perfect response. "I'll wear a costume when this war is over, maybe one like yours" God I hate 90% of that room so much. The way they handle themselves is so shameful.
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u/BitchIDrinkPeople Feb 28 '25
This is so fucking degrading man
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u/Femboy-Airstrike VGG Enforcer Feb 28 '25
This is one of the most embarrassing presidential bitch fits in American history, and quite possibly all of 21st century history so far.
This low-iq degenerate has been in office for a month and has already sunk our country's image into the gutter. Everyone that voted for him genuinely deserves whatever consequences come out of his dogshit decision making
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u/Th3Trashkin Feb 28 '25
Before Trump there weren't presidential bitch fits, this is fucking pathetic.
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u/ShaeBowe Feb 28 '25
Trump totally isn’t a Russian asset…
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u/mettle_dad Feb 28 '25
Commrade Kraznov disagrees
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u/Mother_Harlot Feb 28 '25
Commrade Kraznov
Generic Russian name or a real person?
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u/Aleenion Feb 28 '25
Supposedly, that's the old code name the Soviets had for Trump back in the 1980's. According to some anonymous source, he was enlisted as an asset at that time. Of course, this was stated without evidence and published by a tabloid, but I'm going to call him Agent Krasnov anyways, because it's funny.
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u/Mother_Harlot Feb 28 '25
Oh, ok, thanks for clarifying 👍
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u/mettle_dad Feb 28 '25
Yea basically what he said. I think the claim I saw said it was an X KGB spy chief making the claim but most likely that's all made up. But yea definitely still funny
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u/okayIfUSaySo Mar 01 '25
According to some anonymous source,
He's not anonymous, his name is Alnur Mussayev.
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u/Aleenion Mar 04 '25
Double-checked, and yes, I misremembered that part, apologies. He is a former Soviet and Kazakh "security official," though according to Snopes he wasn't in the KGB during 1987. Again, I don't think this is actually true, or at least there's zero credible evidence for it, but I'm gonna call him Agent Kraznov for the gits and shiggles.
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u/PatientEconomics8540 Feb 28 '25
Trump is pure evil
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u/IMissMyWife_Tails Fuck Isntreal and Free Palestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
He would donate billions to Israel, who's committing a mass genocide bu not a single dollar for Ukraine.
Edut: what's with downvotes?
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u/Caliburn0 Feb 28 '25
The downvotes are from people that subconsciously believes Palestinians doesn't deserve to live.
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u/Nice-Technology-1349 Mar 06 '25
You're missing the connecting dots.
Israel is (in Trump's mind) a winner.
Ukraine is a loser.
Trump isn't interested in people heroically fighting back, he's interested in bullies punching down. He sees Ukraine in the same way as he sees Gaza; territory he can claim for his own personal ventures.
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u/meowqct Feb 28 '25
The Ukrainian ambassador or envoy was like 🤦🏻♀️
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u/DougosaurusRex Feb 28 '25
Yup, saw her at the Ukraine rally in DC when I went last Saturday, and she seemed so defeated here, felt horrible.
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u/RealFenian Feb 28 '25
Words can’t express the things I want to happen to those two fucking scum bags.
Never been more angry watching that clown talk than now.
We need to really get the finger out in Europe and back Ukraine with everything, fuck the United States now and forever.
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u/Nice-Technology-1349 Mar 06 '25
Six days later, and over in Britain there's discussion of putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. So it seems Europe might not fumble this one.
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u/cradio52 Feb 28 '25
This is one of the most shameful and disgusting things I have ever witnessed coming from the federal government, and that’s saying a lot. People don’t understand the implications of this. We are now allied with Russia. Jesus Christ.
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u/petyrlabenov Feb 28 '25
I was gonna suggest we swap presidents but I wouldn’t want Ukraine to be more fucked over than it already is
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u/GrafZeppelin127 Feb 28 '25
We could keep the original Zelenskyy in place and instead create a Clone-Zelenskyy or Mecha-Zelenskyy. Change nothing. I would prefer the USA to be led by a Ukrainian comedian with a heavy accent rather than this absolute disgrace.
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u/St33l_Gauntlet Feb 28 '25
Better alternative, let Ukraine annex the US. That way you get a president who's a real leader and not a coward and a military that fights for it's people and not to steal oil from third world countries
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u/turtlcs Feb 28 '25
Two native English speakers to bully one guy into submission. Great. I can’t imagine the level of self-restraint it must have taken for Zelenskyy to not beat them both to death with one of those boom mics.
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u/spectre15 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
Never in all of American history has the sitting president sat and argued with a foreign dignitary, let alone one of our allies, on live television in this way before.
Disrespect doesn’t even begin to describe this and quite frankly that word is underselling this clip.
We genuinely deserve to burn as a country man.
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u/Tank_Boi_12 Fuck the DNC Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
While I don't want to break TOS, I also ""don't"" want to throw a punch at everyone other than Zelensky.
This is shameful conduct, and I hope everyone in Europe begins to abandon us for this even more.
Edit: Slava Ukraini!
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u/Fluttersniper Feb 28 '25
Oh my god, they’re literally only concerned with “loyalty” and not having Zelensky call them out on television.
“We need you to go on CNN and tell the American people that Trump has a bigger dick than Obama, okay? We’re gonna-NO NO NO STOP TALKING you’ve done enough talking, okay?! Trump good, Obama bad, okay?! Trump dick big, Obama…they call it a…mye-khro-pee-nus. You’re not winning this war without us, you understand that, right?!”
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u/Illustrious-Stuff-70 Feb 28 '25
Actually it was Biden that was handling out javelins….we just going making up history again huh? Lol
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u/alex7stringed Feb 28 '25
Trump literally got impeached for extorting Zelensky and withholding javelins to Ukraine. Americans forgot apparently
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u/Express-Doubt-221 Feb 28 '25
There will come a day when Donald Trump is nothing more than a rotting corpse.
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u/scorchgid Feb 28 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
oh I know this tone, this is parents speaking to a child, where the parents are selfish entitled prick and constantly ask for praise for doing the bare minimum. But keeps asking for it over and over and over again because it doesn't fill the empty void.
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u/chipped_reed0682 Feb 28 '25
"You campaigned for the opposition." He didn't really but if he had could you blame him when you scream in his face like the children you are?
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u/Saadiqfhs Feb 28 '25
Let’s be very clear what just happened, Trump just insulted an American ally for no reason for Twitter points. The American empire is dead fellas and it shall not be missed. Hopefully Europe can straight cut us out for good and all
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u/11cholos Feb 28 '25
trump is such a subhuman piece of shit, it's actually embarrassing to be the same species as that disgusting freak. i'm happy that i'll live to see the day he dies tbh.
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u/Itz_Hen Feb 28 '25
This sounds like when the 39 year old man is flirting with the 19 year old girl at a restaurant and she walks on eggshells when rejecting his advances to avoid getting stalked and killed when she leaves....
He is so patient, so conciliatory and yet Trump is crashing out by even the smallest amount of push back
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u/penguintruth Feb 28 '25
Zelensky can't count on any assistance from the US, because Comrade Krasnov is fully in Putin's pocket.
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u/artemus_who Feb 28 '25
Trump knows that, pound for pound, Zelensky could beat the fuck out of him right?
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u/Hot-Try9036 Average New Deal Enjoyer Feb 28 '25
Zelensky has more willpower than I do. The Secret Service would have had to shoot me to get my hands off of the couch fuckers throat!
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u/LiminaLGuLL Feb 28 '25
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting to think that Ukraine gave up their nuclear arsenal for this kind of 'protection'. Just goes to show you cannot trust other countries for your safety. Our traitor in chief is kowtowing to Putin.
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u/EmperorMrKitty Feb 28 '25
Why does Vance ALWAYS have that tone when he speaks? Can’t think of the word but it’s like annoyed/better than you/whining. It is so fucking grating.
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u/WaterMonkey1357 Feb 28 '25 edited Mar 01 '25
This is soooo disgraceful. Even if I voted for Trump I would feel utterly ashamed !
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u/wunkdefender2 Feb 28 '25
Disgusting pieces of shit.
All I can do is hope that the role reverses at some point and Trump and Vance find themselves on the short end of the stick. It’s the least that they deserve
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u/Delicious_Bake_3713 Feb 28 '25
This is literally the most disgusting thing any American president has ever done. I can’t believe tankies support this garbage and want to throw Ukraine and western democracy to Putin and the CCP!
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u/guckfender Feb 28 '25
Its very angering to hear this but it needs to be heard and spread far and wide
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u/mcfeeli Feb 28 '25
So disgraceful. Trump would much rather side with a dictator than side with democracy. It’s more obvious than ever.
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u/Locke03 Feb 28 '25
Come on, there's got to be a Secret Service agent or White House staffer out there that is willing and able to do something very funny for the good of the entire planet.
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u/supern00b64 Feb 28 '25
This is tragic, but part of me genuinely wonders if this is desperate posturing from the Trump admin. Trump looks super desperate to end the war right here right now to score a political victory. If he wanted to he would have already pulled aid or threatened it behind the scenes, but clearly it didn't seem to work, and they're choosing to berate him publicly instead of just pulling the aid.
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u/ReddestForman Feb 28 '25
The last glimmers of optimism in me are hoping Pitin is leaning hard on Trump because things are even wors efor Russia than they appear. And now, if Russia's military effort collapses after everything said by the Trump admin, he'll look absolutely pathetic and knows it.
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u/HadeswithRabies Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
I'm not American, so I don't really pay attention to their domestic policy.
This is the most startling video I have seen in years. I think I'm just shocked by how willing he is to basically yell at a president of a country. Do Americans think this is normal? Does he yell at senators or parliamentarians often? Is he one of those types of leaders? Are you guys in trouble?
Equally as important, is Europe cooked? Cause I'm sure that Europeans can handle themselves in a conflict with Russia, but Putin's been flexing his soft power in Europe for a very long time now, and I'm not too sure European "free speech" is conducive for protecting the European people from Russian propaganda.
Am I just late to the panic party?
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u/Dave_Is_Useless Feb 28 '25
Now it's time for Europe to become the arsenal of democracy and push Ukraine to Victory against these fascist imperialist pigs.
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u/Upstairs_Baseball_16 Feb 28 '25
The audible gasp after Trump said it’s going to be very hard to do business like this
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u/Allie_Tinpan Feb 28 '25
Does anyone have a link to a transcript or something? I seriously cannot stomach watching this with the audio on.
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u/TheDemonWithoutaPast Communist and Degenerate to US Right Wingers Feb 28 '25
With such "friends", who needs enemies?
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u/Ghost_Dawg12 Feb 28 '25
Évolution was a mistake we should never have left the ocean
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u/bboy037 vsauce Feb 28 '25
I'd take it a step further personally, the Cambrian Explosion and its consequences
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u/Thatnewwavefan Feb 28 '25
Fucking nazi scum , Europe Ukraine included needs to distance themselves from the US ASAP
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u/Th3Trashkin Feb 28 '25
This is going in the history books for the decline of the United States, pathetic little dweeb bitchboy Vance basically telling a man fighting an existential war for his nation to grovel before them and be grateful for the scraps he gets is and Trump angrily lecturing him with rambling bullshit is...
It's like the epitome of American arrogance, the ignorance and malice of this government, and fucking embarassing on a new level.
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u/Psalmbodyoncetoldme Feb 28 '25
I can't even watch this segment since I watched part of it just a couple hours ago. I hated Trump for a long time, but I don't think hearing him speak before made that hate feel so visceral. Anything else I could say about this would be fedposting. The US is done as a diplomatic powerhouse, and we fucking deserve it.
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u/MeverMow Feb 28 '25
My personal favorite part (not included in this clip) is when Trump says Putin didn’t respect Biden, but respects Trump, and Zelensky gives a silent “well, you are his puppet” head nod to it.
There’s no bottom to this depravity. No exiting the roller coaster from hell.
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u/naamingebruik Feb 28 '25
Evil, your president is evil, and so is his vice president.
I hope you people don't end up rehabilitating Trump like you did Bush.
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u/Additional-North-683 Feb 28 '25
Trump starts a war with Canada and Mexico and getting beating badly and has to beg for aid from Russia and the EU
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u/Re-Vera Feb 28 '25
Actually disgusting. Pretty sure there is no video in existence of a foreign leader being treated that badly by other leaders during official negotiations. Let alone an ally under invasion.
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u/soufboundpachyderm Feb 28 '25
Jesus fucking Christ. Fucking asshole Americans. I fucking hate us so much. I feel so fucking bad that Zelenskyy has to come here and deal with this bullshit.
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I can't stand hearing that little no-nothing puke Vance lecture someone like Zelensky who has been fighting tooth and nail for his country. Neither Trump or Vance are snywhere near Zelensky's league.
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u/Necrotes Feb 28 '25
Seeing as the current US administration is refusing to aid Ukraine I would encourage the people here who are financially stable enough to donate to do so:
here is a link where you can donate directly to Ukraine; https://u24.gov.ua/
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u/Descript_Cloud Feb 28 '25
ZELENSKY DO THE FUNNIEST THING EVER AND YOU WILL BE REINCARNATED AS A LOTUS FLOWER ZYLENSKY!
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u/WishLucky9075 Feb 28 '25
I....I just don't know what to say anymore. I feel awful for Ukraine. I feel so so awful.
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u/Sriber Mors Russiae, dolor Americae Feb 28 '25
When this shit is finished, Americans better be on their knees and beg.
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u/KermitDominicano Democratic Socialist Feb 28 '25
Absolute fkin clown show. This is the first time I've felt genuine second hand embarrassment for something our president has done
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u/Ancient-Doctor-2904 Feb 28 '25
Shows what a fake strongman this guy is. He would let the russian tanks roll in! Pathetic and anti American.
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u/Level_Hour6480 In the trenches, knocking doors Feb 28 '25
I do wonder if we could trick him into supporting Ukraine by pointing our how much better Biden's support was than his.
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u/bboy037 vsauce Feb 28 '25
Y'all it's gonna be okay. Stream the new Vampire Weekend album. Politics is temporary, but Vampire Weekend will last for ages
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u/bboy037 vsauce Feb 28 '25
Man I don't even know how to be funny anymore I'm just at my wits end at this point
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u/quillmartin88 Feb 28 '25
Donald Trump has the emotional maturity and stability of a twelve-year-old girl on her first period. No wonder he and Epstein got along so well.
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u/kukasmonster Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25
Mind you. Zelensky just ask if this deal would be guaranteed because the all the last deals were just words, weaponizing, and funding but none of that has stopped Russia from occupying Ukraine territories. Pretty fair question. Another point that the Democratic party could use but they keep sleeping.
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u/No_Discount_6028 Mar 01 '25
I wonder if Trump would talk the same if he had been drafted to Vietnam like he was supposed to and had to experience the horrors of war firsthand.
Not that it matters or anything.
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u/RaiJolt2 Feb 28 '25
Seeing america side with Russia/the Soviets in real time hurts.
Its incredible how much the influence of Russia, whether fear of it, or working with it, has begun to ruin our country.
Ayn rand essentially created reganomics and fear of Sovietism has degraded any chance at socialized medicine for decades- and now our president (metaphorically) is getting wet and sloppy with Putin’s bloodstained, dirty boots.
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u/Mir_man Mar 01 '25
The soviets? WTF you talking about?
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u/RaiJolt2 Mar 01 '25
Putin was trained by and was apart of the kgb. He literally was a part of the Soviet state and is trying to restabilize it, at least territorially.
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u/Mir_man Mar 01 '25
Putin has never indicated he has soviet ideological sympathies, in fact he bad mouthed Lenin for making ukraine an official republic state within USSR rather than just a part of the Russian SSR.
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u/youngkeet Feb 28 '25
Ukraine is fucked dog.
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u/SoupPerson16 Feb 28 '25
No they're not, the pro Russia far right in Europe lost the German election and had their leaders in Romania and Republika Srpska arrested this week. Europe can step up to defend humanity while America gets killed by this rotten administration.
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u/youngkeet Feb 28 '25
Us armaments, intelligence, and logistical support is rivaled to none. They need us, it's so fuckin depressing... the situation is currently dire the direction we r going is ....russian objectives being met
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u/AdamC2510 Feb 28 '25
I can’t bear to listen to the actual audio. I’m more angry at the people who voted for this shit.