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Mar 02 '25
Wake me up when it actually happens
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u/Boggnar-the-crusher Mar 02 '25
Dawg the president is tweeting it. It’s gonna happen. Dig your head out the sand. It’s real and it’s happening here. Fascism has won. Buckle up buckaroo.
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Mar 02 '25
Back against the wall im going all in. Nothing ever happens. My final gambit. Your move western man.
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u/Pddyks Mar 02 '25
RemindMe! 1 month
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Mar 02 '25
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u/quixote_manche Mar 02 '25
People really got to stop it with the nothing ever happens, shit has been happening for a bit now lol
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Mar 02 '25
Nah, I'm keep doing it for something like this. Mfs on here could see an article saying there's a 0.0001% chance the sun explodes tomorrow, and they would start freaking out. I've got other actual things to worry about in my day to day life, so id rather not waste energy freaking out on the internet about a less than 50% possibility trump leaves nato. Wake me up when it actually happens.
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u/quixote_manche Mar 02 '25
How do I do a remnind be bot for 3 months? Lol
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Mar 02 '25
Watch me still be right. This sub was dooming about the German elections, and I was right about them, too.
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u/Bugsy_Girl Mar 02 '25
Why worry about maintaining things in your day to day life? Nothing is going to happen to you if you don’t, after all
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u/Thunder301 Mar 02 '25
Ok but even for the fascists Nato is an amazing tool! It’s the most cost effective way to keep Europe under American Hegemony, this is why none of this makes any sense.
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u/DirtTraditional8222 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
They don’t want American hegemony anymore. They want oligarchs in the US and oligarchs in Russia and oligarchs in any other country they make corrupt deals with to have all the hegemony
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u/ChineseCracker Mar 02 '25
To be fair, Trump tweets all kinds of shit all the time. Doesn't mean they always happen
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u/Tokyo_Cat Mar 02 '25
That'd take an act of congress. The president cannot unilaterally withdraw from NATO. Would take an act of congress. What does concern me, though, is just the president refusing to honor article 5 if a state is attacked.
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u/S0uth_0f_N0where Mar 02 '25
The real question is who stops him if he does it anyway? He's already been on a lawless spree, and nobody has done anything to prevent it.
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u/uzlonewolf Mar 02 '25
That hasn't stopped him from just going ahead and doing other things that required an act of Congress. Why do you think this would be any different?
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u/fart_huffington Mar 02 '25
I agree but lol at the sentence "the president is tweeting it. It’s gonna happen."
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Mar 02 '25
actually good cuz the united states can do more dmg as a member, we will gladly have yall back when orange man is gone
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u/-Yehoria- UN stands for Ukrainian Nationalism Mar 02 '25
My mom works at UNHCR. According to her, people in the UN are not prepared for the actual ramifications of US leaving. They are afraid of loosing US finding, which, okay, it will happen either way, but if US leaves the UN the actual fallout would be immense. The world order, which has already been undermined in major ways, will be completely deconstructed.
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u/penttane Mar 02 '25
I'm sorry, I wouldn't so quickly accept the US back in NATO or UN even after orange man goes away. I simply don't have faith that the institutions of the US can prevent another demagogue from rising to power and doing it all over again.
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u/Juhzor OKBV will not forget being forgotten... Mar 02 '25
Yeah, if the United States decides to leave, it should not be enough that the country elects some liberal after Trump. Who's to say that person isn't out of office in four years and replaced by some other unreliable madman? There needs to be some long term consequences for treating your allies like garbage. There needs to be some sense of continuous reliability, not this flip-flopping every four years.
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u/RoabeArt Mar 02 '25
When Bush II screwed international relations back in 2003 with the Iraq war, I thought we wouldn't be welcome abroad anywhere again. Then a few years later Obama was elected and things seemed to be patched up. Even during Trump's first term as well as during Biden.
Now Trump has fucked things up so badly so quickly barely a month into his second term, that I don't think there's any coming back from this.
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u/null0x Mar 02 '25
I don't think they're welcome back. They've proven unstable and untrustworthy. How long until they elect another Trump?
Trust is earned, I don't know how a nation regains that but I suppose a good example would be Germany.
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u/OverlyLenientJudge Mar 02 '25
No, no, none of this soft-handed bullshit. You need to kick us while we're down and you kick us hard. It is the rest of the world's job to treat this country like a fucking joke, like a fatter, uncivilized North Korea.
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u/KineticSplicer Mar 02 '25
Aren't we accelerationist now? So that means we should see this as an absolute win!
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u/retrostaticshock Mar 02 '25
The DPRK has been a member of the UN since '91. We'd be joining the elite ranks of such countries as...
*checks notes*
Kosovo. Somaliland, and Western Sahara.
Considering how bad our economy is going to sink when the full weight of these tariffs get going, honestly, it suits the "Warlord driving a Toyota Hilux with rebels in the back" motif.
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u/Proud_Fox_684 Mar 02 '25
Kosovo is not a member because Russia keeps vetoing it's membership at the U.N.S.C
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u/Normal-Stick6437 Mar 02 '25
Also, Kosovo is staunchest US ally in the Balkans. Relatively young country, they are improving slowly but surely. I dont understand OOPs mockery
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u/Proud_Fox_684 Mar 02 '25
Exactly. It's a free country. Humanitarian, pro EU, progressive, and people can live however they want. Whether it's LGTBQ, women's rights or religious people. Many Jews have said they also feel very welcome.
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u/TearsFallWithoutTain Mar 02 '25
I mean it's not like they're that progressive, gay marriage is still banned, gay couples can't adopt children or donate blood etc.
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u/-Yehoria- UN stands for Ukrainian Nationalism Mar 02 '25
Strike out Kosovo, they are trying to join and are nothing like the others. Replace them with Russia's puppet separatists such as Transnistria.
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u/realSchmachti Mar 02 '25
After American imperialism please welcome American aloneism
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u/brink0war Mar 02 '25
You really think American Imperialism is going away? After the Greenland, Panama, and Canada comments? No, the only thing going away is the parts of the government that make America redeemable
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u/Femboy-Airstrike VGG Enforcer Mar 02 '25
Send Elon back to Africa
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u/Ringo_McRaccoon Mar 02 '25
What has Africa done to you?
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u/burf12345 Sewer Socialist Mar 02 '25
It spawned Elon Musk
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u/laflux Mar 02 '25
As a Nigerian, I absolve myself and my people of this crime.
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u/burf12345 Sewer Socialist Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Yeah, that's fair, you guys are on the opposite side of the continent.
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u/kechones Mar 02 '25
I don’t understand why fascist authoritarians would have such a fundamental misunderstanding of soft power.
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u/nsfwaccount3209 Mar 02 '25
Because soft power helps the country as a whole, while destroying the country and looting it gives them more. And giving more legitimacy to international organizations that value democracy and liberalism is antithetical to fascist goals. They want a new world order of might makes right, where law protects the rich but constrains the poor.
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u/SnooObjections9031 Mar 02 '25
Adding to the above, image is everything in fash land, you have to look strong, not be...look. Also these dumb f**ks are so 3 month ahead looking dummies that they miss the decade of gains from said soft power.
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u/Jealous_Duck_1467 Mar 02 '25
What comes next now that the empire is gasping for its last breath?
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u/After_Stick1676 Mar 02 '25
Time to become farm-pilled and start homestead-maxxing. My one dwarf cherry tomato plant on my porch will sustain me through the hard times ahead.
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u/OverlyLenientJudge Mar 02 '25
I'm safe and cozy knowing that the first nuke to fall on my city is gonna insta-kill me, so best of luck to you guys in the future wasteland.
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u/KimJongIllyasova Mar 02 '25
Why the fuck is the defacto President taking ideas from a very clear bot account named "GUNther EAGLEman" - jfc
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u/drejzi Mar 02 '25
Aha. I can already see the empty building in NY, after UN is moved to Paris.
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u/-Yehoria- UN stands for Ukrainian Nationalism Mar 02 '25
The fr*nch already house NATO headquarters, the UN should be housed in like Sweden or something.
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u/bascal133 Mar 02 '25
It’s only a matter of time now, we will leave. Europe is already preparing which they should be but in the future Russia is going to invade Ukraine again and China is going to invade Taiwan and it’s going to be a free-for-all hopefully though Europe will respond with a lot of force and support and basically just take our place.
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u/S0uth_0f_N0where Mar 02 '25
France does still have a nuclear strike force, which could potentially hold things back. I think they have a full triad, plus, they have a pretty solid arms industry. Took 2 world wars, but they know better than to rely on others for help. Plus prevailing winds would carry fallout eastward towards the bulk of urban Russia, so they'd be legitimately dumb to try triggering a nuclear conflict.
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u/Itz_Hen Mar 02 '25
Poland is also VERY well armed, only European country on track to hit 5% of their gdp on military equipment
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u/Thatnewwavefan Mar 02 '25
Honestly i think its for the best, the US is a corrupt fascist oligarchic state and Russian ally that's only at this point trying to drag democratic nations into fascism , I think cutting off US influence is a necessity for the future of democracy and human rights
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u/wolamute Mar 02 '25
Go back to South Africa, Take your billions, after it's properly taxed.
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u/Mecklenjr Mar 02 '25
Only right wing South Africans would want him back. The more educated / worldly saffers think Elon’s a total ass
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u/wolamute Mar 02 '25
I don't care, he's ruining our country, he can go do that somewhere else. (no I don't care that i sound like a red team member when I say this. it's worth.)
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u/Forzareen Mar 02 '25
These guys all have such staggering privilege that even significant privilege seems unfair to them. The US is the most privileged nation in the UN. We are permanent members of the Security Council, and the UN is headquartered in New York. Leaving would make the Soviet boycott in 1950 look intelligent by comparison.
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u/EmsAreOverworkedLul Mar 02 '25
After the Ukraine talks its Kind of a formality.
NATO is the anti Russia insurance alliance and the us has shown its pro Russian.
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u/Swedish_costanza Mar 02 '25
I sure hope this will happen, but it won't. NATO is a central part of US imperialism and just because Elon is too stupid to understand this, the security community won't dismantle US reach any time soon.
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u/Giocri Mar 02 '25
It would be really funny if the US were to leave the UN and that meant that the resolution against the Cuban embargo finally passes
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u/GoujonGang Mar 02 '25
Me when i'm in a ruin your country competition and my opponent is the United States
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u/polishedrelish Mar 02 '25
What happens to the headquarters and all the UN missions in NYC?
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u/Thrilalia Mar 02 '25
Geneva maybe. It does host a number of international organisations.
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u/polishedrelish Mar 02 '25
Yes, but each member's mission is in NYC. Several of them have priceless art and cultural items inside
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u/OverlyLenientJudge Mar 02 '25
They'll probably take them when they leave. Ideally they'll withdraw most embassies and consulates and place a travel embargo to this shithole.
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u/FathomlessSeer Mar 02 '25
I guess we'll see how much pull he really has over foreign policy.
It seems so far that Trump has been given the international community to terrorize at his leisure while Elon acts as a quasi-dictator domestically. Is domestic control no longer enough for the ketamine emperor?
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u/LilaDuter Mar 02 '25
The United States is an enemy to the Earth now and I hope we are going to be treated accordingly.
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u/AshFennix Mar 03 '25
America without the security council, damn, rip Israel, or as it will be known, Wasrael
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u/p0megranate13 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
As a European I can't wait. NATO is compromised as long as comrade Krasnov with Amerika oblast is in.