r/VaushV • u/NotABot9000 • 1d ago

Discussion "Orange Monday", brilliant šŸ‘

I don't know if vaush big brained that term his self, but it's absolutely brilliant

Spread this far and wide, let this be his legacy that he can't blame on the Fed or China or whatever

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u/hadawayandshite 1d ago

I only have 7000 in the marketā€¦Iā€™m still rest and forget in a global index fund.

This last week wiped out any gains Iā€™ve made in the last 3 years

Iā€™m just going to grit my teeth and hope for the bestā€¦maybe

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u/RipErRiley 1d ago

Not to sound like a wallstreetbets guy but HOLD.

*I feel your pain tho.

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u/jonnieoxide 23h ago

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I donā€™t know though! Whatā€™s the bottom look like? Iā€™ve seen Trump people talking about a 30 percent dive. So is that optimistic? Is a 30 percent haircut being overly optimistic?

If so, taking a cash position asap makes a lot of sense.

Then, when the bottom has been hit, and not the bouncing dead cat, wait a few monthsā€¦ then buy back in.

My intuition says this thing ainā€™t going to be over anytime soon though. Its a global paradigm shift that is being led by a man, some may say idiot, who has a very strange admiration for global dictators. So, who knows where this plan of his is coming from? And how long it will last?

Does anyone still believe he has the nationā€™s best interest at heart? That he is acting as a reasonable steward of the economy?

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u/RipErRiley 23h ago

This is a unique situation where I respect diamond & paper hands equally.

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u/hadawayandshite 21h ago

My figuring is, Iā€™m not retiring for another 25-28 yearsā€¦itā€™ll bounce back by then

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u/JusticeBeaver94 Marxism-Erdoğanism 20h ago

This is assuming that the global contraction in GDP over decades because of catastrophic climate change doesnā€™t completely wipe out our gains by then.

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u/hadawayandshite 20h ago

At which point Iā€™ve got bigger issues

I have shoved 250 a month in for a few years always thinking itā€™s money which is ā€˜spareā€™- never getting greedy and putting more in- long term gains for retirement

Itā€™s hard not to have a knee jerk reaction still

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u/JusticeBeaver94 Marxism-Erdoğanism 19h ago

Yeah I get it. Every bit of me is telling me to pull it out, but I suppose if things really do get bad enough, then at that point there really is no safe place for my moneyā€¦ other than putting some of it in the Euro idk

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

Dude this is financial advice, and realistically you shouldn't sell. 7 grand isn't an insane amount of money in the grand scheme of things, and if you pull your money out you risk screwing yourself over quite heavily. Pulling out your money so you can buy back at a lower price in a few weeks rarely works out.

Time in the market beats timing the market as they say, it's better to weather the storm than it is to panic.

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u/MathiasToast_z 18h ago

I've been paying into my 401k for over 10 years and now I'm watching my retirement fund evaporate.

But it's way better than relying on the ponzie scheme of social security. /s

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u/hadawayandshite 17h ago

Sympathy mate- Iā€™m very lucky to have a defined benefit pension in then U.K. so I donā€™t have to worry too much about old age

I was alwaysā€™badā€™ with money (just leaving it sitting in a current account) until I had my daughter a few years ago and realised I needed to prepare a few things

Iā€™ve been putting 250 a month into index funds as a ā€˜saferā€™ investmentā€”-built up that 7000 and itā€™s a bit disheartening to see the gains (and some of my actual money evaporate)

I know Iā€™m still more fortunate than a lot of people that itā€™s such a small amount nowā€¦and Iā€™ve got enough time to make it upā€¦the markets will recover eventually. Iā€™m sorry for those closer to retirement

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u/lukemcadams 1d ago

Dude this isnt financial advice, but i would sell now. It is not gerting any better in the short term, you can rebuy in a bit but give it a few weeks at least before you put it back in to the market

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u/mortusowo 1d ago

Sorry what is orange Monday

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u/BishopMG 1d ago

If the tariffs don't get called off during the weekend - the market will correct. Probably a lot harder than in a last few weeks.Ā  Some market makers are still holding out hope. If tariffs stay - that hope is likely to evaporate and the dominoes will start rolling. When markets tumble - people begin panic selling, which leads to further decline, causing further panic selling and so on. There is technically no bottom to how low the markets can go.

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u/wardin_savior 1d ago

No, there is. The bottom is zero.

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u/mortusowo 1d ago

Im hoping that doesn't happen but I have a feeling trump is going to keep them out of ego at this point

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u/ConnieKai 1d ago

I still don't get it. Why orange?Ā 

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u/CyberSynGang 1d ago

That's Trump's ethnicity. Orange.

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u/ConnieKai 1d ago

Ohh lol. I was thinking like red vs green with stocks being up and down. Orange monday meaning he is ruining the economy and we will start to feel it Monday? Why is Monday significant?

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

It's a reference to Black Monday), a sudden crash that wiped out $1.7 trillion from the world's economy.

Monday is significant because the American stock markets are only open from 9:30am-4pm New York time, Monday-Friday. Stocks cannot be traded over the weekend, so we see the effects of whatever happened over the weekend at 9:30am on Monday.

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u/newplasticideas_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it's because the markets are closed over the weekend, so by the time Monday comes around those numbers are compared to Friday, but in real time everything is still in freefall, so whatever update we get on Monday will be three days worth of changes

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u/ConnieKai 1d ago

Thanks that makes sense now.

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u/ConnieKai 1d ago

Did you mean to say if the tariffs DO get called off? Maybe that's why I'm so confused

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u/aponty 1d ago

I think they meant the markets are still massively overvalued for a post-tarrif world, so they will correct. Further downwards.

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u/Roundmaster 1d ago

Also a play on Black Tuesday, which was when the Great Depression in 1929

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u/RipErRiley 1d ago

I also propose that we stop calling them tariffs and start only referring to them as ā€œimport taxesā€.

Dumbing it down for the dupes or low engagement voters is something the republicans do well. Yet in their case, they tend to exaggerate heavily.

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u/Bern_Down_the_DNC 19h ago

Or just say tariffs are a tax. I think both work.

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u/Triblendlightning 22h ago

I was personally advocating for calling it 'DEI monday', but orange monday plays better with the resistlibs

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u/Anthonest 6h ago

"DEI monday" sounds like shite and plays better with no one. Do you not understand that Orange Monday is a play on the Black Monday 1987 market crash?

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u/Slackaveli 4h ago

It was my term from chat!

But let Vaush take W, he says it very well.

The important thing is that EVERYBODY parrots it.