One thing you can say genuinely about Joe Biden is that he loved this country, he gave this country 2/3rds of his life. He would have rather seen the country thrive under Trump than watch what is going on today.
This “public servant” narrative people parrot about any elected official is such total bullshit.
It’s like saying Trump’s not accepting a paycheck for being prez because he cares about America so much. Or that Elon’s doing his bullshit because he just wants to help.
What do you think Biden's motivations for becoming president were? Outright malicious like Trumps? Or generally trying to do good and better the country and leave a good legacy?
The things you're comparing are ridiculously different (Elon and Biden, lol) and it makes your entire post pointless. You said nothing about Biden, just said how shitty Trump and Elon were and pretended that applied to everyone. as if they weren't extreme and obvious outliers.
I really can't stand when people pretend they're too dumb to understand what they're saying in order to make a slanted point, and I think you might be doing that right now.
Whether or not they are in it for the right reasons, for most, initially running is a huge sacrifice. You lose your time with your family campaigning and traveling constantly for session, committees, and meetings. You lose your privacy. You may have to put your job or career on hold for something you may not have in another 2-4 years. People hate you for things you can’t control. And at the state level the paychecks aren’t even that great.
Seasoned politicians have much less to lose, but a lot of the newer folks (particularly at the state level) are not as wealthy as you’d think, and they’re giving up a lot. I had wanted to run for office and quickly changed my mind after seeing the workload and expectations (worked for politicians). They just shouldn’t have enough time to really reap the benefits of being a career politician. We need term limits. Short ones.
While I despise most politicians, being a real left leaning individual, I kinda disagree with this.
Even tho politicians truly are another species, i mean, most of them probably don't give a fuck about starving or bombing children, or financing dictatorships, I do believe a lot of them are scared of what Trump is doing to the US.
In the US specifically, they must feel some sense of pride of being a figure of power, some nationalist sense. And Trump is changing everything about the US sense of self, the country is changing dramatically in very little time.
Are they pieces of shit? Sure. Do they not feel empathy for their people in this time? I believe some of them probably do. You guys are not living through a normal political climate, it's going full oligarchy, and some politicians must know some consequences of such a change
He gave more of a shit about his political career than trump does about being president. For trump it’s very obviously a short term grift like everything else he’s ever done.
Politicians are human beings even if greed is usually a huge motivating factor tugging on their puppet strings and I’m sure many of them want to do the right thing but can’t because lobbyists have their hands tied. Trump VERY obviously doesn’t give a shit and quite honestly probably hates us poors.
He did alright until he wouldn't just stop. He had to have that second term even though it was obvious he wasn't up to it. In the end he let us down, but he tried.
Yeah if Joe had stepped down I think trump would still be president and everyone would be saying "why didn't Joe run again?" It was a no win situation that you'd have to go back and begin fixing a decade ago in order to get a different outcome.
Man I also love presenting up untestable hypotheticals that have an insane number of variables that there is no way to account for, as fact!
Then no one can argue against me because its all hypothetical with a mind shattering number of assumptions, and I have never been wrong ever about assumptions!
Buttigieg is someone we all love, but let's be honest here- two terms as a mayor of a moderately sized midwest city does not adequately prepare one to jump straight to the presidency. Maybe in 2032 or 2036.
Well, that, and the country is even less ready to elect an openly gay President than it is a female one.
One thing I can say about Biden is he is the reason why credit card companies have more money than they know what to do with, so they shit out millions at a-list celebrities who don’t use/need/suffer from credit card debt. I’d let him eat ice cream out of my open mouth if it made Trump go away though.
Biden could have waddled his ass right out of the White House and let someone else run LONG BEFORE that disastrous debate where the world found out his true mental state.
He was a power hungry politician just like the rest of them. His greed is one of the main reasons we are where we are.
It's crazy that Biden was smart enough to time his planned market crash with trumps bullshit tariffs. Can't believe the guy they called "sleepy joe" had the brain power to pull this off!
The one thing Joe Biden could have realistically done differently was not run for president in 2024. Beyond that, he gave his life, his son, and his peace of mind for this country
Edit: Also Merrick Garland was a huge fuck up and deserves to be shamed for the rest of his life.
“Actually tried to do shit for the american people”
His presidency saw the highest increases in wages and net worths for the lowest income Americans over all other demographics.
He passed the most progressive green energy bill in human history. He passed the CHIPs bill which brings real
high quality manufacturing to this country. In the American Rescue Plan he dog eared huge amounts of money specifically to give as down payment assistance to first time home buyers. He expanded the child tax credit and made it pay ahead of time rather than as a refund, essentially ending childhood food insecurity.
Yeah a huge fuck up on Biden’s part was choosing Merrick Garland as the head of his DOJ. He was a compromise choice when Joe did not need to compromise at all.
Joe Biden focused too much on trying to heal the divide in the country without realizing that the Trump wing is not something he could build a bridge to. No amount of missionaries is going to get shit slinging chimpanzees to accept jesus christ, just like no amount of rational policy and booming economies will ever win over illiterate trump supporters.
If all that shit can be dismantled by lunatic nazis in a month, how great is it?
Student loans had no change. Climate is still toast. Trump and the entire terrorist was republican party was able to skate back into power.
He got played by confederates in his own party and refused to use the stick to get them back on track. Joe manchins daughter was price gouging on epi pens. Why not use that leverage?
He was a fucking pathetic failure and every "accomplishment" is getting washed away like a sandcastle when the tide changes. Worthless.
Holy shit you're a tool, Republicans have control of the executive branch, the legislative branch, AND the judicial branch, which means that they can unilaterally make or break existing structures at will. If Biden is a failure for making good change in this country during his time as president, what does that make Trump? All he's done is make this country poorer and less free, and it's only been a month.
He’s the exact type of loser that gets us in this situation. He doesn’t have the brain capacity to understand politics yet tries his best to convince everyone that both sides suck equally. It’s pathetic
It's not pathetic it's rage inducing, they'll throw us all into a mulcher just to "own the libs." I've never beat truth and understanding into anyone before, but damn it, I'm willing to give it a try. /s
You realize it’s being dismantled because Republicans have all three branches of government and not a single republican has a spine. It’s not one or two crazy nazis, it’s the entire party that is currently holding ALL the reigns for the government.
Why do people rush to blame the adults trying to stop the bleeding rather than the retards smearing shit on the walls of the capitol building?
Lmaoooo absolutely nothing trump has done has made the American people a priority. Shockingly, the guy who made his money by cutting off the heat to the apartments he owned to force out the residences just so he can tear the building down is not for the people. You got conned by a billionair who only cares about billionairs.
Can you name one single thing trump has accomplished that positively affects you so far this term?
I can name 4 that Biden did that directly benefited me and people I know. There was:
IRA included a rebate for efficient appliances, saved me 30% on my new kitchen.
American Rescue Plan included downpayment assistance and credits that helped me buy my first home.
The EV tax credit helped me and multiple family members buy EVs
He had multiple 20-30% years for the stock market.
Joe Biden’s economy demonstrably primarily benefited the lowest income Americans. In his term, the lowest income demographic saw the highest wage and net worth increases over every other demographic.
So, I don't disagree with you on your specific points.
But I will say that I saw a lot of poorer Americans (which you are not if you bought new EVs and a new kitchen and bought a home) feel like the Economy under biden wasn't working for them.
And they thought that what Trump was gonna do would help it start to work for them.
Under Biden, the rich got substantially richer than the poor. And, yes, that's gonna be even worse under Trump - but that's at least some of why there was resentment towards Biden.
If I didn’t have so little hair, I would rip my hair out because of the state of the country. The POOR saw their wealth grow substantially. Consumption was through the roof, travel spending was at all time highs, eating out was at an all time high but every single news outlet was saying “All economists think we’re headed towards a recession”
Every single news outlet screamed about how unaffordable life was, despite all the indicators pointing to the opposite. It is unwinnable. There is no world where dems can combat being attacked on all sides with primarily misinformation, and republicans get a pass on things that are 10x more insidious.
At this point, I don’t even know if i can trust anything being said online. How many people were struggling because they lack the basic ability to budget? If you feel like you’re not making enough money yet order uber eats weekly, you’re not struggling. You’re just stupid.
How many of those “i’m working 2 jobs under biden” bot accounts suddenly disappeared after the election?
The information sphere is fundamentally broken in this country and 50% doesn’t know how to read articles past the headline
If you feel like you’re not making enough money yet order uber eats weekly, you’re not struggling. You’re just stupid.
Yes. Especially if you're whining about it with your new iphone from the seat of your $100,000 pickup truck.
I am actually low income (but not an american) and I sure feel like I struggle less than a lot of other people do that make far more than me. The ~$30k a year that I earn has bought me a ton of toys and vacations and fun, but I'm very, very good with my money on the spending side. I had a really close call last year with debt, but managed to dig out using some very lucky investments I made a long time ago. And that's the only major struggle I've had.
The information sphere is fundamentally broken in this country and 50% doesn’t know how to read articles past the headline
It's not just your country. And it goes deeper than that - it feels like people have really trained themselves to just act like it's a sports team - they pick the side they like and it can do no wrong. They don't care about facts or reading deeply and understanding because that's hard and makes them feel stupid. Picking a side and agreeing with it is easy and makes you feel strong.
It’s not that people view politics as sports. It’s specifically that republicans have fully bought into the Trump cult and not a single one can see any fault in him.
Look at the democrats. We’re currently rebelling against senate leadership because of their inability to fight. Dems forced Joe Biden out of the 2024 race. We are happy to criticize our faults, the other side is incapable of even seeing them.
The republicans force out those with "faults" too, they're just different faults. And the blind spot towards what you'd think would be considered problematic sure is massive. I can't imagine a Democrat staying in the party if they ranted about space lasers causing forest fires on twitter....
They also zero in on times when the dems don't force out those with faults, or wait too long - and then say the same thing.
Many believe in their cause just as much as you believe in yours, and dismiss criticism of it in the same ways as well.
I do seriously hope that the Democrat party is able to make the major changes that are needed to win and effectively govern going forward, hopefully this election was the wake up call that was needed.
He has only been in office for a couple weeks but sure 💀 locally I’ve seen on the news of violent criminals being deported and federally he’s saved us hundreds of billions of dollars in cutting worthless funding alone. Im glad you had 4 good positive experiences with Biden hopefully we will have more with trump !!
Trump is deporting less people daily than Joe Biden did.
If you look at the revisions, those contracts were already paid out. There has been no savings and the federal government spent 30 BILLION more in feb 2025 than in feb 2024. You’re just outright being lied to.
I had many more positive experiences than just 4, I just know that republicans only care about things that benefit someone personally and have no concept of helping the population for the greater good.
Yeah as a Mexican American the deportation issue is something we pay attention to Biden and Obama both deported more people than trump did and a lot of them weren’t violent criminals some were kids! Your second point I don’t have enough knowledge to argue with you but from what I know it takes money to make money
Please be cautious when choosing where to get your news. Just FYI, outlets like Newsmax and Fox are "news entertainment" labeled as such because they have the freedom to disregard journalistic integrity and warp the truth or even straight up lie. Try to read news sources that have no political affiliation if you don't want to be spoonfed propaganda.
Also, how is he saving us money when he spent 10s of billions more in February than Biden did last February?
"Overall, the government spent about $710 billion between Jan. 21 and Feb. 20, Treasury daily spending data shows, up from the roughly $630 billion during a comparable period last year." Source: Reuters
Also, can you name any ways trump had a positive impact on you in his first 4 years?
Please be cautious when choosing where to get your news. Just FYI, outlets like Newsmax and Fox are "news entertainment" labeled as such because they have the freedom to disregard journalistic integrity and warp the truth or even straight up lie. Try to read news sources that have no political affiliation if you don't want to be spoonfed propaganda.
Also, how is he saving us money when he spent 10s of billions more in February than Biden did last February?
"Overall, the government spent about $710 billion between Jan. 21 and Feb. 20, Treasury daily spending data shows, up from the roughly $630 billion during a comparable period last year." Source: Reuters
Also, can you name any ways trump had a positive impact on you in his first 4 years?
federally he’s saved us hundreds of billions of dollars in cutting worthless funding alone.
There is no part of this that is true. They've fired workers and cut programs to the tune of a couple billion maximum, far less than a single percentage of the total amount they promised they'd cut.
They also passed a bill that spends another $4.5 TRILLION (4500x larger than a billion). Please explain if you think a couple billion dollars is more money or less money than 4.5 trillion dollars?
I'll ask it in simpler terms: Do you think $3 is a smaller or larger amount of money than $15,000?
Can you actually answer the question? I really don't know if you understand which numbers are larger. You already made up "hundreds of billions" so I'm trying to get an idea of the grade level in which you stopped being able to complete the required reading.
“A lot of us are happy with the economy tanking in a matter of days because we have to own the libs no matter how much we suffer alongside them”. Pathetic
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u/VibeCheckerz 22d ago
Biden is laughing