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MEME According to plan

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u/B1ZEN 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Russia hoax strikes again. How about we stop exploiting immigrant labor and slave conditions in China and invest in America again? There has never been such a great opportunity to invest as in now.

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u/zherok 1d ago

There has never been such a great opportunity to invest as in now.

Invest in what?

What manufacturing do you think we can bring back that's going to be worth making in the US? We've largely shifted to a service economy. You're not getting your fucking widget factory back.

No one's going to want to buy an American made iPhone. And making the currently produced ones unaffordable for the US market doesn't suddenly make an American one practical for the rest of the world. The goods still have to be competitive on a global market, and all Trump is doing is isolating us from it.

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u/B1ZEN 1d ago

The time of exploiting immigrants and slave labor in places like China is over. We were heading for absolute disaster with the way the economy was set up. Cut the beurocratic fat, curtail deepstate influence, stop the pillaging from the globalist, stop the forever wars for the elite, take on the deficit, curb record high personal debt slavery, invest in our infrastructure and manufacturing, match other countries tariffs in a equitable and reciprical way, scale back the IRS, give dividends and tax breaks to the middle class, deregulation, and become energy independent amongst many other reforms. It's all going to make us far better off. We were heading off a cliff and would not have survived again to rebound like before, especially with China up our ass. Down with the old NWO that wasn't working and in with the new.

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u/zherok 1d ago

The time of exploiting immigrants and slave labor in places like China is over.

Walling off the US isn't going to suddenly make China less competitive to the rest of the world.

Worse, Trump has done an absolutely stellar job unifying said rest of the world against us. Tell me getting China, South Korea, and Japan to all agree on something against us is some sort of masterstroke on Trump's part, and not just a colossal bout of stupidity.

It's incredibly short sighted, because Trump is incapable of imagining not being in a position of power over everyone he interacts with. He cannot understand being counter-punched. And literally everyone is going to do so, often in concert with each other, because they perceive the US as a belligerent nation. Why is anyone going to want to work with us under these conditions?

Cut the beurocratic fat

None of the people Trump has in charge have a fucking clue what they're doing. At least when they're not actively gutting useful things because they work against their own personal interests. Looking at the things Musk gutted first is very telling, because they were often agencies that had legal cases against his businesses.

The man threw out free filing with the IRS. Why? Are the interests of TurboTax and Intuit more important than a simple method of filing for the average taxpayer?

take on the deficit

The man just signed off a hugely unfunded tax cut that realistically the only way it could possibly be paid for is to gut social security or medicare. You could literally cut everything else they're attached to and you'd still have to gut those things in order to cover the huge addition to the deficit he added.

curb record high personal debt slavery

Didn't he just overturn capping interest rates on credit cards? And overdraft fees? What debt is Trump freeing us from exactly?

invest in our infrastructure and manufacturing

Christ, dude. What are you talking about? Trump has done almost nothing to invest in infrastructure and manufacturing. He keeps making gestures towards overturning the CHIP act, maybe largely just because Biden was responsible for it (clearly a very mature attitude for a 78 year old and the President of the US to hold.)

He hasn't spoken much about actually encouraging domestic manufacturing, instead seemingly relying on pricing the alternatives out (which doesn't change those options for the rest of the world, US Tariffs don't make Chinese manufacturing less appealing outside of the US.)

match other countries tariffs in a equitable and reciprical way

The fact that the tariffs numbers Trump cited matches up with the difference between US imports and exports with said countries should give you pause. Because that's not the same thing as a "tariff." It makes absolutely no sense to expect every other country in the world to buy US goods equal to or greater than what we import from them. They're not all the same size, they don't all need the things we make or services we do. That doesn't mean the things they sell aren't valuable to us. You can't tariff a tiny island nation that maybe grows something we like to eat into buying American trucks or whatever. And you're certainly not going to be any better off killing exports from that country until they do.

and become energy independent amongst many other reforms.

The guy who keeps harping about wind farms killing birds and trying to bring back coal at the expense of renewables is going to make us energy independent?

The guy is 78 years old. Check out how long it takes to build a power plant. And then factor in how unlikely anyone is going to want to build anything for the next four years, because Trump makes everything uncertain.

We were heading off a cliff and would not have survived again to rebound like before, especially with China up our ass.

If you can't see how Trump has strengthened China's position in the world, you aren't looking hard enough. Trump is already a moron when it comes to not getting soft power, something he's almost entirely ceded, for free, to the Chinese, but he's even created a convenient adversary that China can use. Hint, it's us. We're the bad guy now.

Good fucking job.

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u/B1ZEN 1d ago

I appreciate the time and care you took with your reply. We do, however, see things very differently. I have been keeping a close eye on things, and I am very pleased with what has transpored and expect the country and myself to benefit greatly. It's not an easy transition, but it was necessary. IMO Lets hope I am right and we will be better off