r/WallStreetbetsELITE 1d ago

Loss Fuck. We are doomed

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u/Dalcoy_96 1d ago

What a complete fucking waste. My dad who isn't a Trump supporter but fell for the whole strong man "I'm gonna fix everything" schtick, works in finance and couldn't believe Trump unleashed the tariffs. šŸ¤·

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u/InvertebrateInterest 1d ago

He couldn't believe Trump did...*checks notes* what he said he would do?

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u/Notcooldude5 23h ago

Trump also said it would be a new golden age. No one knows what to believe.

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u/Crimthebold 20h ago

Golden shower age

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u/Jackson-G-1 19h ago

šŸ˜€šŸ˜€

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u/Wooden-Teaching-8343 17h ago

Go to every maga person and start cheering on the golden age. If they seem sad at how much money their 401k has lost tell them itā€™s just the beginning of the golden age. Letā€™s just keep heightening the cognitive dissonance at this pointā€¦ thereā€™s nothing else to do

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u/univrsll 17h ago

Itā€™s like someone saying heā€™s gonna skin his dog again but people donā€™t take him seriously because heā€™s only done it once or twice beforeā€¦ and then he does itā€¦

Being under the constant threat of having a blade against your neck should warrant that person from never holding office.

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u/headlessseanbean 13h ago

Tariffs are a thing that exist. "Golden age" is a concept. Plenty of people knew what to believe.

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u/DieselKraken 18h ago

ā€œpromises made, promises keptā€

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u/eggsbenedict17 20h ago

He says shitloads of stuff - end the Ukraine war in 1 day, take over Gaza etc etc

Just because he followed through on one thing doesn't mean he does everything he says - the fact that the market dropped so much means that they didn't predict him to do that either

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u/Clever_droidd 18h ago

To be fair, he has a history of bluffing and outright lies. Clinton isnā€™t in jail (yet) and the border wall, not only isnā€™t built, but Mexico didnā€™t pay for it.

On tariffs, he threatened them then postponed them. On 4/2, ā€œliberation dayā€, the market was green until he showed that big beautiful chart around 3:25 est. The market didnā€™t fully believe him for good reason. Sadly, I kept thinking I should buy puts, but second guessed myself thinking I was missing something. I reasoned the market was probably right, heā€™s going to move the goal post again.

Here is what the market didnā€™t know: He previously talked about reciprocal tariffs, which would be fairly reasonable. What he calls reciprocal tariffs are way higher than what other countries actually have on our products. That was the biggest shock to the market. There is reason to believe the market priced in actual reciprocal tariffs, not the wildly disproportionate tariffs he announced.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 16h ago

The funniest was Vietnam, which had tariffs of 2-3% on US Goods, getting hit with 45% ā€œreciprocalā€ tariffs. šŸ˜„

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u/Diligent-Property491 22h ago

He is a notorious liar, so there is that

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u/ParamedicSmall8916 21h ago

Trump's a negotiator. I genuinely thought he'd just try to scare other countries into more favorable trade deals, but I think nobody expected this.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 16h ago

Problem is, the US already had favorable trade deals.

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u/Chemical_Signal2753 1d ago

Trump has a history of claiming he would do one thing, accepting 10% of that thing, and then talking up his great success. Lots of his supporters take him seriously but not literally, and I could see how people would be surprised by his actions.

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u/Alarming-Magician637 1d ago

Youā€™re correct, but those people are complete idiots then who deserve exactly whatā€™s coming.

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u/monadicperception 1d ago

Finance people are actually quite clueless. Spouse is in finance and I, the lawyer, actually dictate our investment strategy (and we pulled out early this year so weā€™ve been spared the bloodbath). I attribute it to lawyers being trained to spot risks and to mitigate risks. Also, having an understanding of how the law works is a huge competitive edge.

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u/rectumreapers 1d ago

Explain MAGA lawyers than šŸ¤”

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u/monadicperception 1d ago

I know a few. My explanation of all MAGA is this: they are incredibly self-centered individuals. Seems to be a pre-requisite to the MAGA ā€œmovement.ā€

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u/LaZZyBird 14h ago

MAGA lawyers and to some extent Vance are the equivalent of court historians hired to rewrite history and provide the intellectual justification for Trumps bullshit.

They are arguably the worse of them all, because they are the key enablers giving this clown and visage of legitimacy.

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u/AdagioHonest7330 17h ago

I find lawyers to be the absolute worst with investments. Lol trained to spot risks. Usually the lowest paid back office cost center in any Wall Street firm.

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u/Ok-Confidence9649 21h ago

I was reading about the 2007-2008 crisis and crash and how most economists did not see it coming. There is a small list of people credited with predicting it. But after reading that, I have realized no one is going to warn or save us. We truly have to look out for ourselves.

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u/Repulsive-Smell-6722 16h ago

We all saw this coming. I know I did. I completely sold off all of my stock holdings in December. I was able to buy 60 acres of land. I think I'll sit tight for the next few years.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 16h ago

Hmm, I briefly considered pulling everything out in December (when the market was quite high), but only pulled out about half because of tax year reasons. I figured Iā€™d pull out the rest in the new year. Anyway, the market has gone down sinceā€¦

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u/jbond1326 15h ago

It is impossible to time the market, missing the best 10 days can absolutely crush your overall returns. Derisk a bit, but hopefully you didnā€™t pull out completely

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u/BreatheMyStink 1d ago

Your father sounds like a dupe

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u/muftu 19h ago

The only part of his plan that was at least somewhat articulated. Everything else was at a stage of a concept of a plan.

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u/Someredditskum 13h ago

Your dad is the reason he won. Idiots voting.

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u/Mo-shen 11h ago

Which is astounding. He told us exactly what he would do and so did Harris.

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u/Jamestouchedme 1d ago

Tell your dad to wait 90 days and check back

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u/Treepeec30 1d ago

Is that how long it takes for manufacturing to return? šŸ¤£

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u/Serious-Cap-8190 1d ago

8 years by my estimation. 2 years development and permitting. 2 years construction. 2 years interior fit and commissioning. 2 years to reorient global supply chains, hire staff, train, and ramp up to full production.

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u/HomieeJo 21h ago

They don't even have the manpower for all of the supply chains. Especially when they are deporting their cheap manpower.

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u/Trytun015 16h ago

Theyā€™ll hire all the people that got laid off for minimum wage. Itā€™ll send the middle class into a spiral, produce cheap real estate that can be bought en masse for cheap as well. The rich get to own everything and create a serf class and further eliminate the middle class. Itā€™s exactly what they wanted this whole time - rich and the poverty stricken masses. Theyā€™re just being open about it and 1/3 of the nation loves it.

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u/EnvironmentalEye4537 1d ago

What do you think will magically happen in 3 months?

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u/DrSpacecasePhD 1d ago

Is that when he'll get bailouts, or fire J Powell and then demand 0% interest rates and make inflation skyrocket again just like he did with his bailouts in 2020?

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u/Ok-Helicopter-641 1d ago

Why 90 days?

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u/Illustrious_Ear_2 1d ago

Because itā€™s going to get way, way worse. This is just the beginning. The recession is coming.

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u/IceTax 1d ago

Recession? Whatā€™s the chance we get more than 10% drop in GDP and get to use the D word?

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u/EndOrganDamage 1d ago

America is Russia level fucked. You attacked fucking allies in your bullshit hissy fit thinking you were some untouchable child of the globe. You're about to learn the world will happily run sans US greed and stupidity.

The sheer amount of effort expended by previous presidents to keep everyone working WITH america only for Trump to suggest we all fuck off is blinding. Its the golden ticket for the world.

No one told that dumb fat fuck that we were all under the boot before and by whining and crying and telling us to fuck off that we're free loaders we're actually free.

America is the exploitative boyfriend that doesn't have any idea, yet, how spoiled he was, but is about to be on his own for the first time ever and he's absolutely fucked.

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u/IceTax 22h ago

The vast majority of Americans did not vote for this. I donā€™t disagree with you in any way and I respect that the rest of the world needs to work to protect themselves from this madness.

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u/Boltzmann_brainn 21h ago edited 21h ago

It's not a golden ticket for the world, the world is also entering recession. Everyone is fucked because of this like in the 2008.

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u/DistantBar 16h ago

This is deal or no deal, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to make a deal with the US for a long time.

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u/Carrera_996 1d ago

Well, tariffs have been wielded like a bludgeon twice before. Both times, it ended it in a depression. The last one saw traders walking out of windows - 30 floors up. It took several years for the damage to accumulate enough to push them over the ledge. This time, however, we have 10s of thousands of freshly unemployed Feds, AI replacing middle managers, tech jobs going to India, and safety nets disappearing faster than an alcoholic playboy waking up next to a fat girl. I think this year, early autumn.

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u/Ok-Western4508 1d ago

This is the broad market knee-jerk reaction we havnt even flipped the breakers on any of the overvalued tech stocks yet going to be a fire sale

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u/ErrorcMix 1d ago

It wouldā€™ve been smarter to say 2026

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u/gimperion 1d ago

As if tariffs was the only reason the economy is going off a cliff ha